UK tipped off US over Russian hacking

From Missy on claims that UK Intelligence services tipped off the US that Russia was attempting political hacks.


Apparently it was the UK Intelligence services that first tipped the US off to Russia’s campaign to influence the election. The reports suggest that the UK were aware in the Autumn of 2015 that Russia were responsible for a breach in the DNC, and tipped off the US. There are also claims that Russia had attempted a similar hack in the UK in the lead up to the 2015 election by targeting Whitehall computers, however it was thwarted by GCHQ.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/07/russia-us-election-hacking-uk-intelligence

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/06/vladimir-putin-accused-us-intelligence-report-ordering-broadinfluencecampaign/

The question would have to be, why didn’t the US act on this information? I have no reason to believe that the UK did not provide the information as soon as they learned of it, so the US intelligence agencies would have known by the end of 2015, why didn’t they do something then?

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  1. “why didn’t they do something then?”

    When was the hacking done? WikiLeaks timed the release of emails to try to influence the US election through October, but when did they get the data?

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    • Missy

       /  8th January 2017

      According to the reports it appears that it was known about late 2015, (one report said October 2015), so the US would have had the information before the primaries, there would have been time to at the least minimise any further hacking, and possibly do something to try and pre-empt the release of the information.

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  2. Blazer

     /  8th January 2017

    Who cares…They,re all at…It.

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    • Missy

       /  8th January 2017

      all at what?

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      • Gezza

         /  8th January 2017

        Fracking, smacking & backing hacking.

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      • Gezza

         /  8th January 2017

        “The question would have to be, why didn’t the US act on this information?”

        The US CIA has one of the worst records around for actively & covertly interfering in the political processes of other countries Missy. One can only speculate on why the agencies took no action, but it could be that there are similar ops going on vs Russia & China the US would not want to risk being exposed?

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        • Pete Kane

           /  8th January 2017

          Somewhere in the afterlife, Goff Whitlam is nodding his head in your direction G.

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          • Gezza

             /  8th January 2017

            You’re not just another pretty face PK.

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            • Pete Kane

               /  8th January 2017

              Not so sure about the former now, although I genuinely suspect I’d be competitive on this site. You just, well, know so.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  8th January 2017

              There, there, don’t worry your pretty little head about it. 🙂

  3. Gezza

     /  8th January 2017

    Yup. When it comes to espionage, rust never sleeps. They even had a mata hari or two in the bible.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  8th January 2017

      There were probably cave spies. Never mind the Bible and Mata Hari. Ugg and Wug were doing it thousands of years ago.

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  4. Noel

     /  8th January 2017

    Intelligence agencies do not “do anything with with the intelligence” other than forward it to user..Their role is not to make recommendations of “what to do”with the data collected and the analysis made.

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    • Missy

       /  8th January 2017

      Noel, some intelligence agencies don’t do anything with intelligence, some do not make recommendations of what to do with the information collected and analysis made, but some do have a responsibility to act on information gathered, and all have a responsibility to pass the information to the relevant agencies in the event of a threat to the nation.

      However, in this instance, the NSA (an Intelligence Agency), like the GCSB and GCHQ, have a responsibility for Information Assurance, and Cyber Security. This was a hack by a Foreign Government on a political organisation in the US, therefore the NSA should have had a responsibility to do something about it.

      Intelligence and Intelligence Agencies are all unique, each area within them work in different areas, and have different roles and responsibilities, you cannot generalise on the role of all Intelligence Agencies.

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  5. Noel

     /  8th January 2017

    I should have added if the user chooses not to act on the information that’s his prerogvtive and where the finger should be pointed.

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    • Missy

       /  8th January 2017

      Indeed, in this case the user would have been the NSA – responsible for Cyber Security, and acting on Cyber threats from hostile foreign nations.

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  6. lucher1948

     /  8th January 2017

    Hi USA GB here we are hacking you and Putin waved to us,so check out Putins hack

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  7. Noel

     /  8th January 2017

    “Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence….”

    Explains why they didn’t move earlier on the UK Information.

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  8. PDB

     /  8th January 2017

    This whole Russia thing is such a beat up…………

    First Clinton blames the FBI for her loss, then her husband blamed ‘angry white men’ and now she blames the Russians – so much for personal responsibility.

    “When will progressive elitists stop living in denial and accept the truth? Voters rejected an untrustworthy and corrupt candidate and punished an incompetent president by denying him his “legacy.” Yet despite their collective loss, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are still too arrogant to accept any responsibility for their leadership failures, and consider the rest of us inferior to them. But it is irrational to expect truth or wisdom from narcissists who are divorced from reality”.

    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/opinion/readers/2016/12/23/reader-tired-excuses-clintons-election-loss/95726260/

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