Open Forum – Monday

9 January 2017

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37 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  January 9, 2017

    Morena PDT. Just a quick post to give you your early morning ‘one on the board’.

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  2. Gezza

     /  January 9, 2017

    At least four dead in Palestinian truck attack in Jerusalem
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-truck-idUSKBN14S0E3

    Expect this will be a topic for further passionate debate?

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    • Blazer

       /  January 9, 2017

      ISIS will claim responsibility….Naturellement.

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      • Gezza

         /  January 9, 2017

        Bibi already saying there is no doubt he is “probably” associated with ISIS. A very good-looking commenentator who was identified as a regular contributor to Haretz said that Bibi was making a point of linking this to the ISIS inspired attacks in Europe, and that a previous similar attack in (missed the name of the place) was carried out by someone who had posted video or pics of themselves beforehand in front of the ISIS banner.

        Latest attacker’s family has already been arrested & taken away for questioning Aljaz says. So that’ll be another home or two levelled no doubt, & possibly more of them fired up for revenge.

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        • Gezza

           /  January 9, 2017

          * commenentator = commentator.
          Might try auto-correct again soon.

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  3. Klik Bate

     /  January 9, 2017

    ‘Every Muslim must participate in JIHAD says mother, who sends daughters, 7, and 9 on suicide missions’

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11772088

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    • Klik Bate

       /  January 9, 2017

      AND THIS JUST IN……..Talk of the ‘devil’ 😡

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  January 9, 2017

        Someone has an odd idea of the age of this child. He’s no toddler. Of course, it sounds worse to say that a toddler did a shooting.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  January 9, 2017

          He looks rather older than three. Toddlers are one to three.

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  4. unitedtribes2

     /  January 9, 2017

    One year ago today I quit drinking alcohol. I was a regular drinker of a bottle of wine and several beers a day. One year later I no longer miss a drink in the evening but I crave sugar. I are having a hard time avoiding a choc bar or ice-cream. For me the sugar is harder than the alcohol to quit. Regardless of that I have lost about 12kg over the year.

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    • Sounds like you’ve managed the sugar well despite the craving. And well done with quitting alcohol.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  January 9, 2017

        Good for you. I know how hard it is to lose weight. The sugar in the alcohol may be what’s causing the sugar craving. I have never been an alcoholic, but have had dealings with them-including one in the family. Good for you not trying to make excuses or deny anything. One man I knew had a wife who denied that he had a drinking problem (and probably still is doing so) when the whole town knew that he had one.

        I know someone who’s lost 50kg. They couldn’t, at one point. fit into the car they were driving a few weeks ago !

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  5. Joe Bloggs

     /  January 9, 2017

    The Cheezel backs down on his past denials of Russian involvement in the US election hacking scandal and now accepts that Russian entities were responsible for a series of cyberattacks in the lead-up to the US elections…

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/751655/donald-trump-russia-cyberattack-us-election-reince-priebus

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14S0O6

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/priebus-trump-accepts-report-that-russia-was-behind-hacking/article/2611210

    But the Cheezel doesn’t have the balls to say it himself – and sends Preibus out to speak on his behalf …. such a coward!

    Meanwhile the Trumpettes cheer and anxiously await his next tweet…

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  January 9, 2017

      The evidence is such that, had he continued to deny it, his credibility (except among the Trumpettes, who’d believe anything he said) would be shot.

      It’s a pity that we don’t have Cheeto snacks here-two insults for the price of one.

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  6. Blazer

     /  January 9, 2017

    yet there is still no direct evidence to support the case.Its all vague,generalisations,and smacks of sour grapes from an NSA deck thats about to be reshuffled.

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    • duperez

       /  January 9, 2017

      Are you saying that the main players have all agreed that there was Russian hacking, the certainty is such that even the President-elect has acknowledged it, “yet there is still no direct evidence to support the case”?

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      • Blazer

         /  January 9, 2017

        confirmed Russian hacking,as accepting the reality of espionage ,nothing new.Saw a good summary on RT.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  January 9, 2017

      Let me correct that for you Blazer…

      yet no direct evidence to support the case has been released to the public…

      The NSA is in a catch-22 here – release the evidence, reveal their sources, methods, etc., and compromise future intelligence gathering activities, or keep the evidence secret and have every numpty claim there’s no direct evidence…

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      • Blazer

         /  January 9, 2017

        very good….’trust us….we know what…we’re doing’!It is hardly a revelation that factions spy on and try to influence the dynamics of rival ideologies.

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        • duperez

           /  January 9, 2017

          I do not know about influencing the dynamics of rival ideologies or the possibility of quantifying such in any reasonable way.

          Revelations and direct evidence supporting the case not being released to the public
          indicating there is no substance in the claims and the notion of ‘trust us’ is interesting in its application to us in NZ. Our PM expects us to trust him with the business of the GCSB.
          I’m pretty sure that some NZers loudly on the “don’t believe the US leadership and intelligence agencies” bandwagon implicitly trust their NZ equivalents.

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          • Blazer

             /  January 9, 2017

            Do you know the US has deployed thousands of troops to the Russian border?

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  7. Chuck Bird

     /  January 9, 2017

    It is good you blog does not have a rule against mentioning convicted rapist and arsonist Allan Titford like Hobson’s Pledge and Muriel Newman’s NZCPR. They have banned me for saying bad thing about their hero.

    BTW, Pete do you know why he has not appealed at least his sentence?

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    • He’s probably got a sensible and persuasive lawyer Chuck.
      What would be his grounds for appeal?

      Censorship at Hobson’s Pledge [Hobson’s Deceit] and NZCPR [NZ ACT Party Public Relations] doesn’t surprise me …

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  January 9, 2017

        ACT doesn’t begin with C.

        But his crimes were so dreadful that I’d imagine that an appeal was waste of everyone’s time.

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  8. Chuck Bird

     /  January 9, 2017

    you should be your

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  9. Chuck Bird

     /  January 9, 2017

    PartiasanZ, you need a point of law to appeal a conviction. This is not the case for appealing a sentence. The only thing that is a deterrent to appealing a sentence is that the sentence can be increased. This very rarely happens. In the case of Titford I accept the 24 years seems a long time. I do not see why he has not appealed. Do you know anything about the case?

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  January 9, 2017

      I had forgotten it. But when I looked it up and saw what he’d done, I can’t imagine that he has much of a chance to have his sentence reduced.

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  10. Conspiratoor

     /  January 9, 2017

    Los Indios Tabajaras. Narcos the life and times of Pablo Escobar, Season 2 Episode 4 this lovely melody sets the scene for another bloodbath. Apologies if I’ve played it before

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  11. Conspiratoor

     /  January 9, 2017

    G, I’m not sure but we might have to put you on cockroach watch tomorrow. This site can only handle one lurch in my humble opinion. Just saying

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