Park charges?

A lot of National Park and other tourist facilities are provided free of charge to everyone in New Zealand.

Should tourists be charged?

Should there be more charges for locals? User pays?

https://initiativeblog.com/2016/12/12/private-walks/

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  1. Noel

     /  10th January 2017

    Please keep these comments hush hush.
    Afterall pollies are always looking for an excuse to devolve responsibility and move costs elsewhere.

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  2. Gezza

     /  10th January 2017

    NO CHARGES FOR LOCALS.
    Wonder how they’d identify the foreigners for differential fees?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  10th January 2017

      The Germans always arrive first to hog the best bunks.

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      • Gezza

         /  10th January 2017

        That is quit likely true, Alan. And they interrupt everyone’s sleep. When my big bro did his OE in Europe a couple decades back, the Germans were busy conquering all the hostels.
        He said all the Germans were buggers for coming in last at night & switching the lights on, waking everyone up. Sometimes the Anzacs would put a chair up against the door to make a point. Are they still a bit like that, the Germans?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  10th January 2017

          It’s a while since I’ve checked but last time I did they were splendidly self-absorbed.

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          • Blazer

             /  10th January 2017

            self absorbed!whatever you do…don’t mention the ..vank…I mean the..var,I mean..Hogans Heroes.

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          • Gezza

             /  10th January 2017

            I’ve just remembered, he said when he was in Madrid, some ozzer called out “Are the Germans in yet.” “No.” “Right”, and he unscrewed all the light bulbs. 😀

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          • Gezza

             /  11th January 2017

            By request, not mentioning any names.

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  3. Blazer

     /  10th January 2017

    micro chip them on arrival.

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    • Gezza

       /  10th January 2017

      Technically feasible, probably on the cards for us all eventually, but they have enough problems herding the mob through the gates @ the airports smartly enough already, & there’s the ‘tell friends, family & the Internet about your experience’ factor to consider.

      What else have you got?

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      • Blazer

         /  10th January 2017

        voice recognition barriers …you have to say …’what a nice house’ in the queens english to gain access.(or Te Reo)

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  4. Klik Bate

     /  10th January 2017

    Why don/t they just contract it out …

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  5. David

     /  10th January 2017

    As demand increases, there needs to be some form of charging to manage it. Getting a workable system that doesn’t then encourage a huge bureaucracy and escalating costs is challenging.

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  6. Pete Kane

     /  10th January 2017

    On the wider front of ‘foreign rescue’, I’ve long considered that if one can afford to travel and then tramp in our parks (often using facilities paid for and labored for by our tramping clubs, deer stalkers etc) then you can at least afford a reliable locator beacon. And perhaps look to an insurance requirement. (Alan my sister complains of Israelis re the huts Happy New Year from Port Nic.)

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  7. On the other side of the ‘user pays’ coin is the fact we still pay our taxes too …
    So the more things that are removed from our taxpayer funding … Where do those tax dollars go?

    Is this public land a public amenity or a privatised ‘commodity’ …?
    An industry? … An SOE …?

    Philosophically and ideologically there’s deeper, more insipient messages embedded here: – People don’t appreciate things if those things are free; if they don’t have to pay for them.
    – Nothing can be remain without placing a monetary value on it …

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    • Blazer

       /  10th January 2017

      no people do not attribute any value to things that are…free….especially …advice.

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    • NOEL

       /  10th January 2017

      When the SOE system was established it was to facilitate the eventual sale of the asset.
      i.e. produce a return to the Crown and when circumstances were right put up for sale.

      Not sure if DOC is a SOE. Probably not.

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      • Blazer

         /  10th January 2017

        put it up for sale to some lucky company at a discounted price.Telecom was such a good deal for Gibbs and Fay,that Gibbs bankrolled a political party to try and grab some more bargains.

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  8. Gezza

     /  10th January 2017

    “Is this public land a public amenity or a privatised ‘commodity’ …?
    An industry? … An SOE …?”

    It’s a national treasure. A taonga. Owned by the people & held in trust by the state. It belongs to us. However it doesn’t belong to tourists, who don’t pay for its upkeep & development via their income taxes. They might be happy to contribute a fee towards that upkeep if they are used to this in other countries. How much being free to access is a factor in their decision to come here, I’m not sure.

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  9. As mentiobned above ,WQesterners pay for every National park in Thaland, and the Thais get in free.
    I have never seen anyone grumble there on the honesty basis.
    Mind you I don’t ;look at all Thai.
    It brings up the subject of free camping. Free camping is a ludicrous concept.
    It is too often abused. New Zealand is not here for Europeans to mess up and leave to local rate payers.
    The Rangers see me free camping in Australia, and when they see me picking up rubbish they come to have a talk. The cops also check over night campers.

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