Labour’s negative campaign

For about a decade Labour have tried to defeat National by attacking John Key, without success. Now they seem to be trying to repeat the same tactics against new Prime Minister Bill English.

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It doesn’t mention the name of who they they think ‘it’s time’ to be Prime Minister. Are Labour hedging their bets about who might be leading them at the election?

What are Labour’s values? Dredging up old stuff to attack opponents?

There is nothing positive about this. Repeating past mistakes is a very questionable strategy.

I don’t see how this negativity will appeal to many voters, let alone people who might consider joining ‘the campaign’.

I hoped Labour would have hit election year promoting themselves and showing how they can be different. Same old is a bad start.

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  1. Patzcuaro

     /  14th January 2017

    Simon Wilson has written a series of articles at Spinoff giving his thoughts on Election Year

    http://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/09-01-2017/welcome-to-election-year-in-nz-heres-how-labour-can-make-it-a-real-race/

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  2. Blazer

     /  14th January 2017

    Are [National – proper names please – PG] still running with…’a safe pair of hands,a brighter future,on the cusp of something special,sound economic managers…and trust us…we know what we are….doing”?

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    • Currently they are running with photo ops with the EU and NATO and Theresa May and policies of trade deals with the UE and the UK.

      That’s 2017 stuff and not dredging up decade+ old hits.

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    • PDB

       /  14th January 2017

      Can’t see why not Blazer – NZ is in a very good place economically so hard to see what the point is you are making. Haters gotta hate.

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      • Blazer

         /  14th January 2017

        The point is about policy.English has said he doesn’t have any.’There is no silver bullet’….just keep borrowing and crossing our fingers….for the ‘brighter future’….I guess.

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        • PDB

           /  14th January 2017

          Having ‘no policy’ is probably why we are in surplus then whilst most other countries ain’t………..if you can point out all Labours ‘well worked out & costed’ policies I’m willing to take a look.

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          • Blazer

             /  14th January 2017

            if we are doing so well,why is our credit rating not AAA,like Australia’s?

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            • PDB

               /  14th January 2017

              New Zealand has always been AA since the early 1980’s so no news in that.

              https://www.nzdmo.govt.nz/about-us/credit-ratings

              Currently we are at AA+ (stable outlook) on Standard & Poor’s which is excellent historically.

            • “Ratings agency Standard & Poor’s has reiterated its warning that Australia’s AAA sovereign credit rating is under imminent threat without more budget savings or revenue measures.” Nov 21, 2016

            • Blazer

               /  14th January 2017

              you cannot deny the fact that an AAA rating is a significant reflection of the strength of a nations economy and your historical ‘excuse’ is a poor one.Under Labour the rating was the same,so they must have been ‘sound financial managers’ and ‘a safe pair of hands’ …too!

            • PDB

               /  14th January 2017

              To complain we are AA+ instead of AAA is splitting hairs at the very top end of the ratings. Fact is the New Zealand economy is booming.

            • PDB

               /  14th January 2017

              Comparing Labours credit rating in a time of major global prosperity against a National govt coming off the great global financial crisis is disingenuous, as you know.

            • Blazer

               /  14th January 2017

              I am hardly complaining,just pointing out to those crowing about how marvellous things are with the economy,that there is room for improvement and that Australia has a better credit rating.Its not splitting hairs,otherwise you may as well say that a simple A rating is as good as AA,which defeats the whole purpose of ratings.NZ debt has blown out exponentially under National…thats a fact.Borrowing money is hardly a visionary policy.

            • Blazer

               /  14th January 2017

              you need to make up your mind….’a National govt coming off the great global financial crisis is disingenuous’……’New Zealand has always been AA since the early 1980’s so no news in that.’….p.s..the GFC was caused by Wall St wideboys ,just like….Key!

            • PDB

               /  14th January 2017

              “NZ debt has blown out exponentially under National, primarily due to a GFC, inherited big-spending programmes from the Labour govt that have become entrenched in the public eye, and major earthquakes…thats a fact”

              There, fixed it for you.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  14th January 2017

              Relax, B. NZ is AAA stable at Moody’s. You just have to ask the right team.

            • Blazer

               /  14th January 2017

              ‘inherited major earthquakes from the Labour govt’….leading with your jaw again….D’artagnan!BOL.

            • Blazer

               /  14th January 2017

              @Al,stop being mischievious ….that is not correct.A.I.G and many other so called bluechip coy’s with triple A ratings had to be bailed out by the taxpayers(as usual)and of course the agencies reply was….’its just an…opinion’!

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  14th January 2017

              Well, B, when you work out what your opinion really is, let us know.

  3. Labour has to start talking positively about what they are going to do about the housing question, any real income gap or disparity, the welfare of the unfortunates who lack the capacity to sort their lives out, the Foreign Policy dilemma that forecasts a negative US/NZ relationship especially on trade issues and how to change the US perceptions of New Zealand in the Defence, Trade and Foreign Policy arenas. They surely know by now that playing the man does not go down well with middle NZers, and need to redirect their vision towards creative things in the economic arena. They need to listen more to entrepreneurs and less to academics and unionists, and they need to accept that the NZ Economy at present is doing pretty well, remains somewhat fragile and needs to see a massive reduction in private debt, and firmer control on bank lending using foreign currency investments and borrowing via bands.
    The real problem is people within Labour are not seizing the opportunities to display their competence in the main policy areas by asking well researched questions and providing concrete suggestions for real improvements.

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  4. For Blazer, at this time, comparatively on a Global scale NZ’s Government Debt is under control and continues to be reduced significantly in comparison with other OECD countries. Where we have a real problem is that Domestic savings do not cover Private and Bank Debt, and it is in this area that we need action to get it under control. I wonder how much tax ANZ Bank will pay in New Zealand once the sale of its offshoot UDC to Chinese interests is completed later this year. In fact I wonder at the taxation of such a big sale (over $600 million I think) will have any benefit to NZ rather than Australia and China?

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