Trump at the CIA

Donald Trump has spoken at the CIA, stirring up a lot of controversy, again. In particular he has launched another attack on media, as has his press secretary Sean Spicer.

They have blamed the media for misrepresenting his relationship with the CIA and the intelligence community.

And Spicer has also blasted the media for misreporting the size of the crowd at the inauguration – so  such for focussing on the important things.

Donald Trump speaks to about 400 employees at the CIA’s Headquarters in McLean, VA. He says he knows that most of them voted for him. Trump has been at odds with the intelligence comment over its findings that Russia tried to tamper with the US election.

How the hell does he know who voted for him from the CIA?

I haven’t had a chance to listen through it yet.

Fox News: Trump moves to ease intel community tensions with CIA visit

President Trump visited the CIA on Saturday in a conciliatory bid to end a feud with the intelligence community — a dispute he suggested was overblown by the media — while making clear one of his top priorities will be to destroy the “evil” Islamic State terror network.

“We have to get rid of ISIS. We have no choice. Radical Islamic terrorism, it has to be eradicated,” said Trump, on his first full day in the White House and his first official agency stop of his presidency. “This is evil. … We’re going to end it.”

The CIA, FBI and other agencies in the so-called U.S. intelligence community recently issued a report that stated Putin and Russia meddled in the race, though it found no evidence of vote tampering.

However, Trump last week suggested outgoing CIA Director John Brennan may have leaked an unofficial dossier on him containing embarrassing and highly suspect allegations, and compared the situation to living in “Nazi Germany.”

John Brennan has denied such accusations and said Trump lacks “a full understanding” of Russian capabilities and the actions the country is taking in the world.

“Nobody feels stronger about the intelligence community than Donald Trump,” the president said Saturday to loud applause. “I love you. I respect you. There’s nobody whom I respect more. We are going to start winning again.”

Trump suggested the news media, which he has repeatedly argued are dishonest and have treated him unfairly, overplayed his concerns about intelligence officials. He also accused the media of mischaracterizing the size of his inauguration crowds.

Business Insider: Ex-CIA director John Brennan: ‘Trump should be ashamed of himself’ over CIA remarks

Former CIA Director John Brennan said President Donald Trump “should be ashamed” for using a speech at the agency’s headquarters to boast about himself, his former deputy chief of staff said Saturday.

“Former CIA Director Brennan is deeply saddened and angered at Donald Trump’s despicable display of self-aggrandizement in front of CIA’s Memorial Wall of Agency heroes,” Nick Shapiro said in a statement.

Trump had spoken to CIA employees earlier Saturday while standing in front of a wall honouring operatives who were killed in the line of duty. He pledged his support for the agency, “1,000%,” but also raged about the “dishonest media” and complained of coverage that showed underwhelming crowds during his inauguration on Friday.

“We had a massive field of people … Packed. I get up this morning, I turn on one of the networks, and they show an empty field,” Trump told the employees, although photos from the event show much sparser crowds than those that had attended former President Barack Obama’s inaugurations in 2009 and 2013.

“As you know, I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth,” he continued.

Fox News: Spicer accuses media of ‘false reporting’ in fiery briefing

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer angrily accused the media Saturday of “false reporting” on the inauguration as part of what he called a “shameful” attempt to minimize enthusiasm for President Trump, beginning his tenure as the administration’s top spokesman on a combative note.

Spicer summoned the press to the briefing room at the end of Trump’s first full day in office to specifically condemn two pieces of reporting – a reporter’s erroneous claim, since retracted, that an MLK bust was removed from the Oval Office; and photos appearing to show light crowds at Friday’s inauguration.

Spicer called the former claim, made on Twitter, “irresponsible and reckless.”

He went on to say inauguration photos were framed to minimize their “enormous” support on the National Mall, while suggesting the reason crowds looked smaller was because floor covering used to protect the grass highlighted where people weren’t standing – and fences kept supporters from quickly accessing the scene.

Spicer also pushed back on what he called inaccurate crowd estimates, stressing, “No one had numbers,” since the National Park Service, which oversees the National Mall where spectators stand, no longer makes public an official crowd count.

Yet Spicer went on to put out their own estimate based on the capacity of certain spaces stretching from the Capitol to the Washington Monument and declared: “This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe.”

I’m sure that will be fact checked.

Trump made similar comments a couple hours earlier during a visit to the CIA headquarters, where he said reporting low-end crowd numbers was the media’s latest attempt to mistreat him, much like he suggested they did in exaggerating a rift between him and the U.S. intelligence community over Russia meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

I think this is getting into dangerous territory, trying to discredit the media and effectively cut them out from any reporting of what he does, or at least to encourage his supporters to attack or ignore the media.

And control his own messages via alternate means.

More from McMullin:

Nothing says can be taken at face value. He consistently misrepresents and obscures truth on all topics he addresses.

Trump’s speech at CIA today was full of self-promotion and lies, ironically while he attacked the media for being “dishonest.

His attacks on the media are an attack on American democracy and we must not tolerate them.

His attacks are not routine disputes over bias, fairness or facts. They are intended to destroy the media’s ability to hold him accountable.

It hasn’t taken Trump and his administration to show how dangerous they could be.  I think this is seriously concerning.

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  1. Reply
    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  22nd January 2017

      This is war, certainly. It is another way in which Trump will bypass the media filters and go straight to the public.

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      • ” It is another way in which Trump will bypass the media filters and go straight to the public.”

        And you don’t see any potential danger in a politician with his amount of power doing that?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  22nd January 2017

          No. His many political opponents have more than adequate opportunities to use the same MSM and social media to rebut anything he says.

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        • David

           /  22nd January 2017

          No, because the media have shown how biased they are over a long time and its the only way to get his message through.
          The media,s behaviour is more of an affront to democracy when they insert themselves.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  22nd January 2017

            Isn’t he forgetting that if the press doesn’t report things…they won’t be reported ? It’s absurd to claim that the entire press population are biassed. Of course, any that report him in a positive way are neither liars nor biassed.

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            • But Kitty, can you believe any MSM reports now? They are complicit and corrupt and ideologically opposed to change. They want a revolution that changes the rule of law, so they can retain ideological power. Classic problem.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  22nd January 2017

              I don’t know enough about it to comment-but the idea that the entire world of journalism is like this makes no sense.

              How do different aspects and opinions manage to be reported upon if it’s the closed shop that some people seem to imagine ?

            • I have no problem with properly attributed opinion, Kitty. What I have a problem is with MSM who report personal beliefs as factually correct descriptions of what occurred. e.g. The report of the removal of the King statue from the Oval Office as reported yesterday.

            • How widely was that actually ‘reported’?

              ” a tweet that incorrectly stated the bust of Martin Luther King, Jr. had been removed from the Oval Office — which was quickly corrected by the reporter….”

              http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-media-sean-spicer-233977

              Was it actually reported more than that? By major media at all?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  23rd January 2017

              It could be one of those stories with some basis in truth-the statue was taken for a beauty treatment or repairs-but which was reported without this being mentioned (or known ?) It wouldn’t have surprised me if El Trump had ordered the removal, I must say.

  2. Gezza

     /  22nd January 2017

    I posted the video of his address @ CIA HQ in the ‘Moving On From Trump’ thread, and have listened to it. It’s bizarre & a bit scary.

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    • Yes, I picked it up from there, thanks. I had just arrived home and did a bit of a quick post on it.

      More than a bit scary what is developing between the Trumpistas and the media. It looks like it is a planned strategy.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  22nd January 2017

      I posted on the other thread:

      Hilarious contrast with the speech Obama would have made. This was a businessman talking to a team he needs to do a job for him under a new manager he has just appointed. He also needed to insulate them from media criticism. I think that is the simple translation.

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      • Gezza

         /  22nd January 2017

        Alan you possibly need to withdraw the digit when you are apologising & reinterpreting for him. And just listen to him being a jingoistic dick.

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        • Gezza

           /  22nd January 2017

          ” When I was a boy, we used to win – we never win any more…”

          Good MOOOOOOOOOORNING VIETNAM !

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            Exactly. When that happened, Trump and I were no longer “a boy”.

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            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              You mightn’t have been, but I wonder if perhaps he still was.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              When the Vietnam war ended Trump was 30.

            • Nearly. He would have been 28, nearly 29. He was born 14 June 1946, Saigon fell 30 April 1975 (direct US involvement ended in 1973).

              However the Vietnam war started in 1955, and the US was involved in varying ways from early on. So the actual loss was in the 1970s, but a lot of the losing was earlier.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              US combat forces entered the war in 1965 when Trump was almost 20.

          • Conspiratoor

             /  22nd January 2017

            Slight tangent G but I remember at 7 or 8 being scared shitless when the headlines read ‘Russia can destroy the entire world with nuclear bombs’. My dear old dad, who grew up next door to the Papakura army base where young US marines were going off to be blown to smithereens, told me not to be concerned son ‘the Americans have bigger bombs and they are on our side’. They went on to win the space race and the cold war if I recall. God bless America

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            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              Just on that last point, remind me who taxis all the the staff, & trucks all the new & used household consumables, to & from the ISS? 😳

            • Conspiratoor

               /  22nd January 2017

              The ISS? You’re doing to me again G

            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

            • Conspiratoor

               /  22nd January 2017

              Haha, love it G. Would love to fire back but big day tomorrow and bastards …well you know the rest. Cheers,c

            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              Understood. Don’t turn your back on them. Sometimes I think I can glimpse their homicidal motivation.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  22nd January 2017

              …and the love interest who has spent the last two days in welly and is about to arrive, will want to regale me about the somnolent weather and smooth flights in and out. I’m sure you understand. Cheers,c

            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              Tell her the wings flapping is perfectly normally for Welly flights.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              And that’s while it’s still on the airbridge.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  22nd January 2017

          You think that but I don’t. He’s not a bureaucrat like those you were used to. Or even a politician like those we are used to. He’s a business guy who is used to persuading people to do what he wants because he can’t just order them to like the bureaucrats and politicians you are used to. So that’s how he works.

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  22nd January 2017

            Al, most folks here including the host are making the mistake of trying to fit Trump within their own narrow paradigm. As a keen student of human behaviour I find this fascinating. The light bulbs will start to light up but it will take time. This guy gets it…

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            • If seeing someone who blatantly lies(there is ample video evidence) as being within a narrow paradigm then so be it.

              Why do people make excuses for his lies and his poor behaviour? A keen student of human behaviour should be able to answer that.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  22nd January 2017

              Show me an honest politician pg

            • That’s just another excuse. Team Trump have a number of ready excuses well entrenched now.

              Clinton lies, jail her. Media lies, discredit and isolate them. Trump lies, just a politician.

            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              @ c, that was. Honest politician. MGGA.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            @PG: “Why do people make excuses for his lies and his poor behaviour?”

            I won’t tackle the poor behaviour part of that as it is a subjective judgement that in any case would need specific examples to debate. Let’s look at the “lies”.

            Gezza lies all the time. So does Klick Bait. You don’t call them out because they are telling and selling a story that may just be entertainment but may have a point of some kind that isn’t affected by the fact that some of it is completely untrue or somewhat exaggerated.

            Many of Trump’s “lies” are in the same category. They simply don’t matter to the point he is trying to make. Some of them there is no pretence that they are accurate. Others are more or less true but inexact or unverifiable. In fact this is pretty much normal in ordinary human conversation. Exaggeration and invention enliven it and heighten attention. That is why Trump is able to communicate to ordinary folk and Hillary cannot. And screaming about these things that ordinary folk understand perfectly makes no difference whatever to how those folk regard Trump.

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            • Many of Trump’s “lies” are in the same category. They simply don’t matter to the point he is trying to make.
              I’m gobsmacked by that. Lying is justified if the message achieves what is intended?

            • Gezza

               /  23rd January 2017

              “Gezza lies all the time.”

              😳❓

              🤔 Not ALL the time, Your Grace. 😇

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  23rd January 2017

              Your true colours are shining Alan… trying to justify all the lies and deceptions. The scum really is rising to the surface.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  23rd January 2017

              @PG, blatant twisting of my comment. Inaccuracies and embellishments don’t matter if they are insignificant in themselves and irrelevant to the point being made.

              @JB, your comment alone is full of lies. Think about it.

            • But “Inaccuracies and embellishments” are how Trump operates, in public at least. They are not isolated occurrences.

    • David

       /  22nd January 2017

      This is nothing new or particularly scary the media and Trump have been kicking the shit out of each other for 18 months. Both parties are equally as bad as each other but the difference is the media need to learn and adapt rather than fight to the death because it aint their job.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  22nd January 2017

        I want politicians to run politics and businessmen to run businesses. It’s nonsense to say that he can’t just order people to do things-of course he can in his own business. It’s his business & he can do what he likes in it. He doesn’t own the country, although he seems to think so.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  22nd January 2017

          America doesn’t care what you want, Kitty. It elected Trump.

          No, in business you are working not just with your staff (which you have to keep happy or they will leave) but with suppliers and customers and politicians and bureaucrats and lawyers and accountants and many other professionals. If you think you can order them around you won’t last long.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  22nd January 2017

            Only 40% of America supports him.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              You don’t know that, Kitty, because 40% of the VEP didn’t vote.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  22nd January 2017

              The polls seem to know that. People who voted for him must be wishing that they hadn’t. He has one of the lowest %s of support ever.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              That’s because the Lefty MSM have run a hate campaign against him for 18 months so Democrat voters are still hysterical that he won.

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  23rd January 2017

              the Lefty MSM have run a hate campaign against him

              wah wah, nasty media, they’re being so mean…

              What a load of crap Alan. Trump, Breitbart and the Republicans have been trolling the MSM for years, in a deliberate effort to destroy the media’s ability to hold them to account.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  23rd January 2017

              @JB, just read WaPo and laugh at the stupidity of your comment.

  3. David

     /  22nd January 2017

    I watched his address to the CIA and it was really well recieved with loads of applause even if he did ramble a bit. Their boss Brennan has apparently not been popular and is seen as too political.
    The media.s outright lies about MLK,s bust was shocking and designed to inflame racial bias and deserved to be called out and brutally so. The crowd size I thought irrelevant but topical given the media coverage making it a huge issue, it was an extraordinary press briefing from Spicer but a good spanking was richly deserved so the media have a choice to either start reporting facts or continue with their bias and look like idiots.

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    • Sure the media should be held to account if they are not accurate.

      What about the president? Should he be allowed to say anything he likes without being held to account? It appears that that is what he is trying to achieve.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  22nd January 2017

        I don’t think he objects to being held to account. I think he objects to being filtered and misrepresented.

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        • Rubbish. He has a history of attacking people and media who criticise him. He seems to have a very thin skin, and his attacks are now an abuse of power.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            Your bias is blatant: media criticise but Trump attacks.

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  22nd January 2017

            Martin’s bust and the shower thingy were abuses of media freedom pg and show the media’s desperation to hang one on him. He’s holding them to account

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        • patupaiarehe

           /  22nd January 2017

          Of course he does Alan, doesn’t everyone? After watching his speech on the other thread, I’ve reviewed my opinion of him. I now think that rather than being a joke, he is actually dangerous….

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            He intends to take out ISIS and he means it. Is that dangerous?

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            • In which countries do you think he will try to take out ISIS?

              According to some people ISIS are infiltrating many countries via refugees, including New Zealand. What do you think he should do here to eliminate them? And their children, we keep getting told how dangerous the next generation is.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              He was pretty clear that he sees the CIA and Intelligence community as key to dealing to them. I think it will be primarily a cyber war augmented by military strikes probably in conjunction with the Russians and local ad hoc allies. Certainly he will take out their physical bases wherever they are established. That will leave them economically and psychologically greatly weakened.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  22nd January 2017

              I tend to think he’s over reached with the ISIS thing Al. It’s a latent ideology and multi headed hydra as much as flesh and bone that he can drone and bomb away. The more he services from the air, the more anti-american sentiment will grow and there will be no shortage of nutters with a death wish looking forward to an everlasting with Mo and the virgins

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd January 2017

              I guess it is Alan, if one is affiliated with those people. Or if one inadvertantly lives next door to them. It’s a ‘slippery slope’, e hoa….

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              Jeez, patu, if you think getting rid of ISIS is a slippery slope I wouldn’t want to go skiing with you. They’re as evil a bunch of homicidal religious lunatics as the planet has ever suffered.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd January 2017

              You misunderstood me Alan, as usual. I reckon we should blast the brains out of every backward extremist, who has been fortunate enough to land on our shores…
              It’s pretty simple really, living in NZ….
              1. Your wife is your better half, she is not your property
              2. You will be ‘given shit’, for looking different. If you want to earn respect, GIVE IT BACK IN TRIPLICATE!!!!
              3. Be nice to those who are nice to you. Appreciate the people who don’t abide by rule 2….

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              Sorry patu, I certainly didn’t take that meaning from your comment. I’m still not sure how you meant it to be read.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            There is no country in which nutters are a majority. ISIS is a hated minority in every country it operates. Trump will not service from the air only. He will recruit assistance from the local majority who would love to be rid of the nutters.

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            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              And the Americans, who Trump has just told the world should’ve grabbed their oil, and left them thinking they still want to.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  22nd January 2017

              I hope you are correct Al but I might put this into the time capsule with assorted other predictions if you don’t have any raging objections. Cheers,c

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              @G, all depends on the deal.

              @C, so do I. Yep, file it. Did you tick off the one when I said Trump would beat Hillary back in 2015?

      • David

         /  22nd January 2017

        I guess because the media outright lied yet again he called them out on it so now they know if they make shit up they will be called out on it.
        If they critique his policies then that is perfectly fine but at the moment they are going after him personally and its only day 1 so best he puts them on notice, especially given the free pass Obama got for 8 years.

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        • What did “the media” lie about? How do you know it was whichever media you actually mean were wrong and Trump is right?

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          • David

             /  22nd January 2017

            The media retracted their reporting of the removal of the MLK bust and they also withdrew from saying the secret service popped it back after those reports. They lied and got caught and they arnt defending themselves against that charge just deflecting as usual.
            Its a highly charged ornament and bloody irrisponsible reporting given how charged race relations have been in america

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            • “The media”?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  22nd January 2017

              Yes, every reporter in the world was in a conspiracy on that one.

              How does DT explain the photos of Obama’s crowd being passed off as his own ?

      • PG, unfortunately to answer what the US Media lied about would require a list so long that it would bore people. I have studied a number of the main stream media of the US over a fair period of time, and find an alarming correlation between the ownership of the media, their political information, and how they report the news. I have absolutely no faith at all in MSM reporting on what is actually going on in the US. What I do now is enough US voters have had enough and have voted for change, but the MSM in the US do not support the voters choice. I know now what side I am on.

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        • Taking sides like that is dangerous. I prefer to be sceptical of both the media and the Trump machine.

          Writing one off and accepting whatever a politician dishes up is incredible, but that’s what some seem to be doing.

          The media is seriously flawed for sure, just like US democracy, but the alternative is a lot worse.

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        • “What I do know is that sufficient numbers of US voters have had enough, and have voted for change, … etc”

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          • MaureenW

             /  22nd January 2017

            Same as for the UK and I suspect there’ll be a few more coming. Germany and France are having elections soon – those outcomes will be interesting.

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  4. PDB

     /  22nd January 2017

    With the checkered history of the CIA it’s ironic people are more afraid of Trump…………

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    • Gezza

       /  22nd January 2017

      It’s the combination that’s unsettling.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  22nd January 2017

        Trump’s career has been rather chequered, too.

        Has anyone noticed the Trumps’ body language ? She is usually leaning away from him, there is little real contact there. Even in the dance, she looks uncomfortable and not like someone who’s dancing with the man she loves.

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  5. Duperez

     /  22nd January 2017

    How did he know how many and who from the CIA voted for him? He doesn’t. The media being out of the loop means ordinary people, ordinary people with half a brain, ordinary people with any ability to discern, have to say “That is bullshit” every time he speaks it. The chances of that happening are low. That New Zealanders might be prepared to do it since they have accepted so much of the same stuff locally is bizarre.

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    • But he is attacking people for saying ‘that is bullshit”.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  22nd January 2017

      He said he knew he got high support from the military which was known from polls even before the election and presumably from exit polls as well. So he guessed he got a lot of votes from the CIA staff too. He didn’t say he knew, in fact he made it obvious he didn’t know but just enjoyed speculating.

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      • Gezza

         /  22nd January 2017

        Still think you might be over-massaging the prostate Al. We can but watch history unfold & hope it ends well for most of us.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  22nd January 2017

          I think you might need an anatomical lesson, G.

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          • Gezza

             /  22nd January 2017

            I think you could extract the digit Your Grace.

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            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd January 2017

              Ahem G! It appears to me, that you are attempting to ‘wind someone up’. A man such as yourself, who has been here as long as you have, should know better…. Just saying….

            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              His Lordship is well aware of my abiding affection for him, & penchant for occasional blunt talking because of this.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              I think Trump is doing exactly that, G.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd January 2017

              Good G, I just wanted to make sure. I value Alan’s opinion too, on everything except politics…. 😀

      • This what he said.

        “Probably everybody in this room voted for me, but I will not ask you to raise your hands if you did. We’re all on the same wavelength, folks.”

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  22nd January 2017

          Did you watch it? He was laughing as he said it. If you did watch it you are deliberately misrepresenting. If you didn’t watch it you shouldn’t be trying to interpret it.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  22nd January 2017

          And the bits you left out:

          You know, the military, and the law-enforcement generally speaking, — but, all of it — but the military, gave us tremendous percentages of votes. We were unbelievably successful in the election with getting the vote of the military and probably almost everybody in this room voted for me, but I will not ask you to raise your hands if you did. [laughter]

          But I would guarantee a big portion. Because we’re all on the same wavelength, folks. We’re all on the same wavelength. [applause] Alight? [pointing to the crowd] He knows. Took Brian about 30 seconds to figure that one out, right? Because we know. We’re on the same wavelength.

          We’re going to do great things. We’re going to do great things. We’ve been fighting these wars for longer than any wars we’ve ever fought. We have not used the real abilities that we have. We’ve been restrained.

          We have to get rid of ISIS. We have to get rid of ISIS. We have no choice [applause]

          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jSf6Uxm2u2aPjyQsms-Iir6_0R2aMznB8ttribH9-R0/edit

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  6. Gezza

     /  22nd January 2017

    Well, Ajazeera 9pm news showed with conclusive footage & pics that at CIA HQ Trump simply lied about it not raining during his speech (because God) & lied about his Washington inauguration speech crowd size, and reported on Sean the pug also looking uncomfortable & insisting that the inauguration audience worldwide was a record, but offering no evidence.

    The reporter was reporting from a location where the White House was in the background, and also visible was a huge horde of protestors in surrounding streets, and ended by saying that the over half a million protestors had obviously had Trump “rattled”.

    So they might perhaps have to be very lucky to see the inside of the WH Press Room in the near future?

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    • Gezza

       /  22nd January 2017

      A minor correction to the earlier report. The Aj Washington editor said it was “pretty clear the massive crowds behind the White House are now riling (not rattling)” Trump.

      Also, the item leads with the editor saying that Trump, in his address to the sheep, denied that he had criticised the leadership of the CIA, this was a media fabrication.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  22nd January 2017

      Here is a screen grab from an inauguration video of the crowd. You can see why Trump was annoyed at the misrepresentations on Twitter:

      https://1drv.ms/i/s!AuhKWHlH5hzQhKtzH0l9PNYl-_GDHQ

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      • Gezza

         /  22nd January 2017

        His Magnificence is possibly the last person who should decry misrepresentations on Twitter, Your Grace.

        Does You Grace, perchance, have a screen grab from exactly the same angle & location for Mr Obama’s inauguration speech, for comparison purposes? (Your humble servant is also reminded of the DOTUS’s well-known, longstanding refusal to acknowledge that President’s birth certificate confirming his eligibilty for the role.)

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  23rd January 2017

          No, that wasn’t the point. No question Obama’s crowd was a bit bigger. But the difference was not massive. And certainly Trump’s crowd was big for a Republican and considering the threatened wet weather as he commented.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  23rd January 2017

        Not just on Twitter, either. The NYT ran two unfair comparison pics front page too.

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        • Gezza

           /  23rd January 2017

          Beg pardon, My Lord, but Your Grace appears to have now completely buried himself in the large pile of buffalo droppings which the DOTUS has exuded at CIA HQ, & also employed a frightened pug dog to similarly snarl out to the world at a White House Press Performance.

          Your humble servants on your estate would be grateful if Your Lordship would raise his hand high in the air so that they might locate Your Grace & assist to extract Your Grace from the steaming bile-ridden pile of DOTUS dung in which Your Lordship has elected to wallow, & that her royal blondeness, Kelly Anne Conway, is now describing as “alternative facts”

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        • Jeeves

           /  24th January 2017

          Surrender Alan – you are losing integrity at a huuuuuge rate, a tremendous, embarrassment. Truly saaaad !!!!

          Reply
  7. Gezza

     /  22nd January 2017

    Given the smoothness & ease with which he can be seen to handle quite blunt questions from even foreign journalists, The Vladimir may even today have been unable to prevent a slight upward crinkle of the corners of his usually permanently grim looking, slight downturned lips.

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