Women’s rights marches

Coinciding with the Trump inauguration there have been women’s rights marches around New Zealand yesterday and around the world.  They are happening now in the US.

RNZ: NZ leads marches for women’s rights

At least 2000 people turned out to the march in Auckland this morning – a bigger turnout than organisers had anticipated.

Many were carrying banners and placards as they walked from the US Consulate, near Britomart, up Queen Street to Myers Park.

Some read “Women of the world unite”, “Girl Power” and “My body, My rights”.

Several opposition MPs, including Labour’s Jacinda Ardern, the Green Party’s Catherine Delahunty and NZ First’s Tracey Martin were at the march.

In Wellington about 600 protesters gathered at Parliament grounds with signs declaring solidarity with the Women’s March on Washington movement.

Organisers say a further 300 to 400 people were at rallies in Christchurch and Dunedin.

New Zealand marchers might be a bit miffed at CNN coverage:

Australia was the scene of the first major international march, with thousands joining an anti-Trump protest in downtown Sydney.

Organizers said up to 5,000 people attended the protest at Martin Place; police estimated the number was closer to 3,000.

Around the globe similar rallies were scheduled in London, Berlin, Rome and many other cities in Europe, South America, Africa,  the Middle East and Canada.

CNN reports on marches in Nairobi, Cape Town, Ghana and Malawi.

Marches were also planned in cities up and down the United Kingdom, from London to Cardiff, Liverpool, Manchester, Belfast and Edinburgh.In London, large crowds joined a 2-mile march starting outside the US Embassy and ending with a rally in the city’s historic Trafalgar Square.

However most attention is on Washington.

RNZ:  Women’s rights marchers set to visit White House

Hundreds of thousands of people have massed in Washington DC for a march in support of women’s rights, on the first full day of Donald Trump’s presidency.

From a live stream in Washington:

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The demonstrators, most wearing pink knitted hats known as “pussyhats”, gathered for speeches at the National Mall outside the US Capitol Building. Activist filmmaker Michael Moore addressed the crowd, and urged women to run for public office.

The Washington Post reported organisers had originally sought a permit for 200,000 people but now expected as many as 500,000, possibly dwarfing yesterday’s inauguration crowd.

They intended to march to the new president’s front gate at the White House after the speeches.

The event, the brainchild of Hawaiian grandmother Teresa Shook, was intended as an outlet for women and men who consider themselves feminists to vent their frustration and anxiety over Mr Trump’s victory.

 

 

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  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  22nd January 2017

    They risk irrelevance via confusion over their message which seems to descend into TDS the bigger the protest gets.

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    • It won’t do Trump any harm to see that he hasn’t got anywhere near universal support. He is ego driven so this will give him some food for thought as he leads what he calls ‘a movement’.

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      • Gezza

         /  22nd January 2017

        The Aljazeera reporters twice mentioned “actresses” and “celebrities” as crucial in the organisation & leadership of this protest.

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        • Conspiratoor

           /  22nd January 2017

          G, I don’t want to come across as unworldly so can you ask Sir Al what TDS stands for? In my world it is ‘Technical Difficulties’ but he might have another angle. Has used it twice already and I’m a little discombobulated. Curious yours,c

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          • Gezza

             /  22nd January 2017

            I shall save his lordship the trouble c. Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            Trump Derangement Syndrome, C. An acute epidemic.

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            • It is a subset of TOLDS which we see a lot of here.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  22nd January 2017

              Trash On the Lawn Day pg?

            • The Other Lot Derangement Syndrome

              It amazes me how unhinged some people are about people and politics they disagree with.

            • Gezza

               /  22nd January 2017

              I might just mention, in relation to Trump Derangement Syndrome, that I intend to watch a rescreening of Upfront starring Medhi Hassan as soon as possible because I caught a glimpse of him interviewing several Americans who appeared to fit the description of liberal progressives, & were expressing apparent concerns about what they saw as Trump’s dictatorial proclivities.

              A grey-bearded gentleman was earnestly explaining, in all seriousness, his concern that The Donald might suspend habeas corpus “& even The Constitution”, but I need to see the full context of those remarks.

        • Have you seen any sign of any? I haven’t, but I haven’t looked very hard.

          I guess you could say that there were some actresses and celebrities on the New Zealand marches:

          Several opposition MPs, including Labour’s Jacinda Ardern, the Green Party’s Catherine Delahunty and NZ First’s Tracey Martin were at the march.

          Broadcaster Ali Mau, musician and activist Lizzie Marvelly…

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  22nd January 2017

        I don’t think he has any illusions about that, PG. He is a fighter from the wrong side of town, not an establishment patsy. The bio I linked yesterday was quite revealing on that side of his personality. Opposition just makes him more determined to win. That said, I think he will see the march as opposition to his election which he has already won and therefore rather irrelevant. There doesn’t seem much concrete opposition to any of his major policy priorities from the marchers except perhaps to cleaning up Washington. I’m guessing it may harden his focus on doing that though he is also working on deals to get his stuff done so there will ne carrots as well as sticks.

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      • David

         /  22nd January 2017

        “He is ego driven so this will give him some food for thought”

        Sure, he is ego driven, but have you seen how he deals with challengers before? He uses it as energy to attack back, not for quiet contemplation.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  22nd January 2017

      It is the target not the message Al. Their core message is ‘women’s rights are human rights’. This is a worthy message but in the context of Islam’s global abuse against women Trump’s role is irrelevant. But hey he’s a soft target and he’s said some hurtful things so why not

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  22nd January 2017

        Ironically those marching are probably the most privileged mass of women in the world with the least likelihood of losing their privileges.

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        • Conspiratoor

           /  22nd January 2017

          Correct, this is a ‘global’ protest you see Al. Just looking through the images of marches around the world for Saudi Arabia and Iran. I’ll be back when I find them. Cheers,c

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      • That’s the bit that gets me.
        The treatment of women in Islamic countries never seems to incur the wrath of these ‘female warriors’ but the legitimately elected POTUS sends them into screaming fits and onto the streets where they try to out stupid each other

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  22nd January 2017

          I think that Trump’s repellent contempt for women is a real concern, and had I been marching, that’s what I would have been there for, under the impression that it was about that-BUT it was simply a stuck in the 70s rerun.I’m glad that I wasn’t there. Reproductive rights ? Come on, ladies, you can buy contraceptives at the supermarket now and have been able to for some years. Abortions are paid for by the taxpayer, as are the DPB and various other aspects of childbearing. Equal pay ? It was in long before I began work. These people weren’t even born then for the most part. The whole thing has become so watered down and general that it’s meaningless. They are demanding things that have been around for many years. What’s next-votes for women ?

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            Some women’s repellent contempt for Trump is a real concern, Kitty. That was almost the sole reason for the march IMO. Do you think Trump has any more contempt for women than most previous presidents?

            http://www.allday.com/infidelity-in-the-white-house-u-s-presidents-and-their-many-mistresses-2180851713.html

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  22nd January 2017

              Well, I have never heard Obama talking about pussy-grabbing, fucking married women, jumping on women ‘like a bitch’ and so on. I can’t imagine any man I know agreeing when someone called his daughter ‘a piece of ass’ which is about as insulting an expression as any I know. Most fathers would have either walked out or landed the speaker one that would have made him think twice about calling someone’s daughter that.

              He publicly referred to a woman having her period, said that Hillary Clinton had been schlonged (fucked) on her way to the platform. went on at length about how disgusting it was that she had gone to the loo (how bizarre that he would would notice or mention this) and so on and on and on…

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  22nd January 2017

              Having an affair doesn’t imply that one holds the opposite sex in contempt or talk about them in such an offensive way.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  22nd January 2017

              I tend to think that actions speak louder than words, Kitty. We will see how history judges him.

  2. The Feminist movement in New Zealand is irrelevant, driven by overseas media commentary and a bunch of wannabees. Passed its use by date already, ask any mother.

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    • MaureenW

       /  22nd January 2017

      Correct it passed it’s used-by date decades ago in Western countries. I don’t have a problem with people marching or protesting, but they need to have a valid and clear cause. None of those I saw stopped by reporters could articulate why they were doing what they were doing, nor what they hoped to achieve. Cringe worthy IMO

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  22nd January 2017

        A total embarrassment and showing an appalling lack of knowledge.

        I have yet to hear of anyone on such a march protesting for in equality in issues like ‘assault on a female’ to be removed from the law, for men and women to have equal rights over the abortion of a child (100% hers, he can go to prison for causing one), for battered PERSON syndrome to be a get out of jail free card, for WINZ to have a policy of sending women to traditional men-only work (I have a photo of the workers on a local walkway, all men) and so on….equality means equal in all things, not just the nice ones.

        Has any woman ever demanded equality at the bottom as well as the top ?

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  3. David

     /  22nd January 2017

    The good ladies being interviewed dont seem to have much of a firm reason for protesting aside from the election went a different way than expected. I was expecting at least one woman to articulate what rights they feel are at risk.
    The “stars” behaviour was frankly appalling and it seems they feel the need to shock to get the headlines, their privileged little lives will be totally unaffected but we look forward to seeing their holiday snaps from Dubai and the Maldives.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  22nd January 2017

      There are such real and potentially devastating worrries about the new president that irrelevant and long-solved issues ought not to be allowed to distract from these. A man-child is in the White House, a narcissist with a total disconnection from the truth…these are what the real protestors were protesting, not the non-issues of the precious princesses. It’s far more of a concern that a lying egomaniac like Trump with the support of 40% of the people is the US president. THAT is what the real protestors were saying. It wasn’t a case of them being poor losers, it’s a case of them wanting the world to know that Trump doesn’t speak for them although he imagines that he does..

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      • David

         /  22nd January 2017

        On any measure the US has gone backwards under Obama hence Trumps election so it seems utterly bizzare that there are protests about what might happen but there havent been any protests about what has happened.
        Trump got 307 electoral votes it was a convincing victory and his platform makes a lot of sense for America, I go there every year and much like the EU things are working well for 20% of the population and the rest have been going backwards so there needs to be some change. I saw Steve Jobs yacht in San Fransisco and its something to behold especially when you are tripping over homeless veterans at the same time.

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  4. David

     /  22nd January 2017

    Madonna actually owns a home in Dubai, Alecia Keys made loads of money doing a concert there and the last time I looked there aint a lot of wimmins rights or equality.

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  5. “We are opposed to his election” seems to be the mantra….. well whoopee. He is a bit of a buffoon, with questionable attitudes towards woman but he is the POTUS now. So protesting does exactly nothing except given the participant/s the illusion of sticking it to the “man”. Hurrah for you!

    The time for organising in the US of A was in the run up to the election to gain enough electors to your side to ensure your candidate won. So its a tad later to get energised and organised.

    Post fact whining doesn’t achieve much except consume energy that should be focused on the election in 2020 – you know actually build a framework and campaign to put up a valid and appealing candidate to oppose the Donald in either primaries or the actual POTUS election if re gets enough support to run again.

    But I suppose that means the long haul, planning, hard work, probable compromises and the pay off is indeterminate given the outcome couldn’t be judged till late 2020.

    I’ll say it again – it would have helped if the Democrats had run someone not so stained by close association to innumerable scandals and hints of corruption. But of course the feminist argument will pivot either candidly, or by inference, on sexism and Hill’s lost cause she is a female.

    Never mind – I feel better Lizzie from the privilege background is leading the crusade. At least the posters for the movement she fronts will have a nice face on them.

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    • Gezza

       /  22nd January 2017

      Who’s the Lizzie from the privilege background dave?

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      • Lizzie is a singer, and she sings national anthems.. Maaaarveeelllouuuuusss….

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        • Gezza

           /  22nd January 2017

          Ah yes, she is rather pleasing to the eye if not to the ears of some. I thought you might be referring to some entertainment goddess in the US such as Madonna, but I couldn’t work out if Madge was another name for Elizabeth.

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  6. As I see it the lesser issue is that people marching peacefully is big ‘News’ at all, regardless of what they’re marching about … We’re told it’s “frustration and anxiety at Trump’s election” … Maybe in a ‘mass psychology’ sense this is a healthy thing? Peacefully let off a bit of steam?

    The bigger issue is much more complex, to the point where I haven’t quite got a handle on it yet, but my view runs counter to the absurd idea that the ‘Left’ have created this internal contradiction entirely by themselves – example: I must protest womens’ rights but not Islamic womens’ rights – as if there is a) no opposing force of patriarchal conservatism in the West, and b) nothing ‘Western’ worth protesting about anyhow …

    Cultural relativism-Right meets cultural relativism-Left …

    In much the same way that neoliberalism has painted us into a narrow little ‘economic’ corner or corridor circumscribed by low inflation, GDP, economic growth, confirmation bias and pecuniary politics, the ‘social policy’ corollary of neoliberalism, cultural narcissism – along with its commensurate reactionary cultural-marxism – thesis breeds antithesis – has painted social change into an embattled corner where all it really appears to do is contradict itself …

    This is taken to mean that social change is not required, and anyone ‘protesting’ that it is required is “irrelevant” …

    On another topic Farrar called something “sad” …. I’ll go with sad …

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    • Same old same old … any so-called “privileged background” means you’ve got nothing to protest about and therefore you’re irrelevant …

      Except that you have to be a narcissist to believe this …

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      • If you fly or drive to a conference on climate change, energy conservation or sustainability you have no right to protest … you’re irrelevant …

        If you survive by breathing the air you have no right to protest about poor air quality …

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  22nd January 2017

        So if they have something to protest about, what exactly is it, PZ?

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        • PDB

           /  22nd January 2017

          They are protesting democracy Alan as on this occasion it didn’t provide the result they were wanting.

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          • Just as others celebrated a phenomenally expensive form of ‘democracy’ delivering the result they did want PDB …

            Errrr …. So … Big deal …. !?

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        • It has already been said Alan, “frustration and anxiety at Trump’s election” …

          Personally I reckon the right to peacefully protest overcomes the need for a reason that’s clear to you, or clear enough for a stupid, conflict-transfixed MSM to understand and communicate to you …

          It could be that the protesters don’t quite know exactly? They just know that feeling painted into a corner is worth protesting about … Perhaps they feel that their nation is now ‘occupied’ by the forces of Inverted Totalitarianism? It’s principal weapons being cultural narcissism and capitalist conservatism …?

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  22nd January 2017

            Most of them are the primary beneficiaries of that which you deplore, PZ.

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            • So!? Oh, you mean their ethics and morals are called into question in this immoral, amoral, unethical world … [Or I might say this world that neoliberalism ripped the ethical and moral guts out of?]

              Think ‘video loop’ here Alan …

              If you benefit from breathing the air in the form of survival you have no right to protest air quality and are thus irrelevant …

          • @ Alan – ” … that which you deplore, PZ.”

            That which I believe can be improved by social change Alan …

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    • I thought the wind in Wellington was bad

      These “protests” are symptomatic of the current ineptitude of the Left. When mobilisation was truly need in the US PnZ…. where was this constructive demonstration and organisation? nowhere.. instead we got Democratic Party dirty tricks trying to disrupt the opposition and start fights. We got the Dems IGNORING the former core constituency because they decided they weren’t worth listening to.

      I note you have retreated to the normal name calling as well PnZ…. but just fired off into the ether

      The next 4 years will be quite fun watching the US go through what NZ witnessed re Key – totally losing the debate by playing the man endlessly instead of putting up a coherent and logical alternative that is superior.

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      • Please quote your example of my “normal name calling” dave1924? Otherwise, I have no alternative but to consider your comment as being your normal paranoia.

        So … umm … What is your “coherent and logical alternative” to Trump’s ‘America First’ protectionism? This must be a dreadful quandary for a global free-market minarchist?

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        • narcissist seems to be you personal serve de jour PnZ – just because some ask for personal responsibility as the first and second step in resolving peoples personal problems, they are self absorbed??

          Its not up to me to come up with a coherent response to Trump. Its up to the Left as its represented in America to do that.

          And as always you misstate my position. I know its hard for you from your far left hive mind stand point to understand [see both of us can use silly positioning statements] to understand and acknowledge I am a centrist.

          Stated my position multiple times – you chose to ignore it, but I am a mixed market supporter.

          The issue for me is balance is never enough for you and your fellow committed socialists. You always demand more of other peoples money, you always blame peoples lack of success on the “market” and “neo-liberalism” never on their own poor efforts. Because its all a vast conspiracy to keep the poor down….yeah right!

          Remember the core was always from those who could afford to give, to those in genuine need?

          That principle has been so corrupted via universal transfer payments it is unrecognisable.

          Have 6 kids and can’t support them? Its someone elses fault! Have some money …..

          Lived in a state provided house for 30 plus years, kids grown up and left and we have kids living in cars but you won’t leave your 3/4 bedroom house that only has you in? No worries – your entitled, after all its YOUR house not the States…

          Over bearing socialism has made people selfish for sure.

          The current example in Tamaki being an absolute classic of self interest – she should move and allow the TRC to build more state houses in that area. But no its HER house…. and muppets like Hone and Sue support her instead of giving her the socialist message of the needs of the many outweigh her individual need in this case..

          Good onya PnZ, don’t change I love getting insight in to the socialist mind via your contributions…

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          • Fair enough dave1924, “Centrist” it is from now on, although I do recall you saying you believe in minimal government, though I may be wrong? Is minimal government a Centrist position?

            As for balance, well, IMHO if you see as balanced the highest paid people earning 25 times the average, 60 times the basic wage and 110 times the benefit, I don’t see it as either balanced or mixed market … It’s rampant free-market IMO …

            Rampant free-market mixed with austere social welfare does not create balance in my books …

            You make some good points about responsibility … another potentially long discussion … e.g. can ‘contribution to society’ only be measured financially?

            I don’t know about the State house issue you cite. It might make an interesting separate topic [if it isn’t already] …

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            • Nothing wrong with believing in small government but retaining core platforms like Health and Education plus a social welfare net.

              A lot of what passes as “socialist” is just statism and control.

              How you are not aware of the Tamaki Redevelopment Company and its remit to remove 2500 houses and replace it with 7500 is odd… and the cause dejour – I won’t leave to allow it to happen story

              Wages – no argument from me that senior management are overpaid. But its not for government to interfere between shareholders and their employees. the problem lies in the boardroom and directors not calling bluffs of CEO’s and other executives….. there is heaps of talent which will do the job and do it well for less.

  7. Gezza

     /  22nd January 2017

    Well, embarrassment, Aljazeera midday news has just reported some bizarre events of today related to The DOTUS.

    Firstly he has given a rather unusually egocentric & odd address to the CIA in which he claimed nobody has more respect for them than “Donald J Trump”, and apparently, for some obscure reason, that IT DID NOT RAIN DURING HIS INAUGURAL ADDRESS despite mutliple cameras revealing that it did, enough for some people to raise unbrellas at the time.

    Secondly, his brand new Press Secretary delivered a somewhat strained press briefing during which he asserted, aggressively, that the size of the crowd attending his inaygural address had been viciously understated by the hostile msm, and that it was in fact the biggest inaugural crowd EVER. PERIOD ! 😳

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  22nd January 2017

      Fake news rules, G. We rely on you to prune and classify.

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      • Gezza

         /  22nd January 2017

        Exerpts from vid clips were shown … though I hasten to add, not specifically covering these allegedly strange remarks. They will hopefully be available as full address clips before the day is out.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  22nd January 2017

          Exactly. The press conference video you linked suggests these quotes are indeed fake news inventions.

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          • Gezza

             /  22nd January 2017

            Mashed up a bit, perhaps, which is not good, but he Trump did actually make both bizarre claims re the crowd size, and the rain, to the CIA in the clip I posted. Loopy.

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    • Gezza

       /  22nd January 2017

      (Copied over to the “Following on from Trump … ” thread so as not to detract from the Womens Rights Issues discussed here)

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  8. All of these women marched to protest the Inauguration of Donald Trump as POTUS. Trump was elected President in accordance with the Lawful Constitutional Processes of the US. I now label them a LOTUS birds the largest anti-Democracy group in the Globe given their opposition to the rule of law. Think about it?

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  23rd January 2017

      A friend from the US writes on the reasons women protested … “Repeals to the affordable care act will literally kill people, the removal of any mention of climate change on the official White House website signaling that we now have a global warming denying US government will literally kill people, the removal of the page on LGBTQ rights from the official White House website signaling a US government that will not protect the rights of LGBTQ will literally kill people, cutting medicaid, medicare and threats to social security will literally kill people…How is it irrational to protest these things?

      It was not a protest of his inauguration, it was a protest to assert that women’s rights will not be trampled. It was a protest against a man who said he would make it an imprisonable offence to procure an abortion. Pull your head out of the clouds BJ.

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      • PDB

         /  23rd January 2017

        To be fair the bulk of the women I saw interviewed during the protest had ZERO idea why they were protesting apart from it being ‘anti-Trump’. Of the few that did Abortion seemed to be a common theme but overall reasons seemed pretty varied and vague.

        So how is Obama’s record when it comes to women?

        Under Obama gender equality in the USA has slipped from 27th to 45th in the global index – a dismal effort. Of note the USA ranks 62nd for ‘Health & survival’ & 73rd for ‘political empowerment’ (down from position no. 1 when he took office). The overall result would have been worse except the USA was ranked no. 1 for ‘educational attainment’.

        “The US slipped down to 45th on their ranking of countries by gender equality, behind four African countries and all major European countries (all of which are in the top 20), and down from 28th last year”.

        http://www.businessinsider.com/world-economic-forum-gender-gap-report-2016-10/?r=AU&IR=T

        Maybe these women should have been out in force protesting Obama last year instead………

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  23rd January 2017

          I’d take the figures of “Davos Man” with a grain of salt, he’s got an axe to grind.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  23rd January 2017

        It is fair enough to march to protect abortion rights though that is under the control of the Supreme Court and the Constitution rather than the President and Congress. Trump could eventually appoint enough conservative judges to change it but I rather doubt that will ever happen.

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  23rd January 2017

          Laws are up to congress and the senate. Their ultimate legality is up to the supreme court, but not until someone takes up a case.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  23rd January 2017

            Roe vs Wade is already decided. Lower courts will follow it until the SC rules otherwise. It would be pretty hard for the SC to overturn its own precedent though it could perhaps put more rules around it.

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  9. Tell CNN that, I was quoting their headline and expose of the march. Why did Maddona say she had been thinking about blowing up the White House and attracted Secret Service attention. The repeal of the affordable care act will not have the effect you claim despite Left wing Liberal progressive claims to the contrary. Give the man some time to act for Christ’s sake. Too many are slagging him on suspicion rather than factual evidence. Hysteria rules OK?

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  23rd January 2017

      This CNN?

      That looks like just the place to go to find out what women are doing doesn’t it.

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    • Further to Ac’s list of horrors to be visited upon the US people (and by inference the rest of the Globe), I take issue with your statement that the White House denies Global Warming is occurring. In fact the line they have taken is that there is significant Global weather change. However CO2 as the principal agent of the greenhouse effect causing higher global temperatures has been scientifically disproved, and CO2 is regarded as the most important change agent for restoration of global forests and food production for the masses. Ever heard of the carbon cycle? Do you know what chlorophyl does for green plants? It is the single most important renewable source for oxygen. Its amazing what you can see in the clouds. I have absolutely no reason at all to believe that LGBTQ rights will be diminished by the new Administration. Nor have I seen anything that would persuade me that TRump’s administration will not provide social welfare support to those who need it. AC you must have a terrible life with all of that fear around. I recommend you stop sweating the small stuff and concentrate on what you can actually control. Look for the good side of life.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  23rd January 2017

        I made it clear I’m quoting someone. Someone who is a US resident and marched in Denver.
        These are not my fears, they are the observations of someone with their feet on US soil, not looking in from half the world away.

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  10. Sorry, I missed that point AC. I can’t blame it on medication, there has been no change incidentally. I thought you and others might like to read what Trump has said will be his priorities for the first 100 Days, and then wait and see. From the Trump White House Site:

    TRUMP SPEAKS

    “What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty, accountability and change to Washington

    Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:

    * FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;

    * SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);

    * THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;

    * FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;

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    * FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;

    * SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

    On the same day, I will begin taking the following 7 actions to protect American workers:

    * FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205

    * SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership

    * THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator

    * FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately

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    * FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.

    * SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward

    * SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure

    Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:

    * FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama

    * SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States

    * THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities

    * FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back

    * FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

    Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my Administration:

    Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.
    End The Offshoring Act. Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.
    American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.
    School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.
    Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.
    Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.
    End Illegal Immigration Act Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.
    Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.
    Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values
    Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.
    On November 8th, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our economy, security to our communities, and honesty to our government.

    This is my pledge to you.

    And if we follow these steps, we will once more have a government of, by and for the people.”
    I LEAVE IT FOR YOU ALL TO COMMET.

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  23rd January 2017

      Got as far as ““What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty,” and had to stop to laugh out loud.

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  23rd January 2017

        I stepped up, took one for the team and battled on ac. What think you of the THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  23rd January 2017

          Apparently Obama added 21 000 so there may be some scope to remove some. Being that prescriptive could be troublesome.

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  23rd January 2017

            If you are correct that is 7 a day, every day, for 8 years. The man’s a machine

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            • Gezza

               /  23rd January 2017

              Certainly has a rep for working hard. Might help cut down on his Twitter Time. Which would be good thing.

      • AC, I recommend that you and I defer our judgement about what Trump can achieve as President until, say August 2017. We can then look at his promise to the people of US and decide whether or not his first 100 days worked or not. Or do you want to forget about facts?

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  11. Sorry, I seem to have a lazy “N”!

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  23rd January 2017

      It’s okay colonel. You also appear to be lost. I’m over there. Cheers,c

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  12. Conspiratoor

     /  23rd January 2017

    The whale leads with a brutal pisstake by Katie Holmes out of the Daily Mail. It’s got everything – Hitler, pussies, the koran, explosives, grudges. The only thing it hasn’t got is a purpose

    Her sign said; ‘I am more than my vagina’. I asked her why she was at the Women’s March on Washington. She said it was because she wanted to show what democracy really meant.

    Another white lady held a placard reminding me that ‘white silence = white consent but Black Lives Matter #BLM’. She said she was marching because women own their own bodies.

    And a lady, pushing a stroller with two children on board, facing down the secret service, with a sign that made it clear Trump is ‘Not My President’.

    Even the speakers sounded confused. As I ate a three piece chicken meal with a side of slaw to recover from hearing the Koran read out in Washington Cathedral, I listened to one manic woman yell at the crowd;

    ‘We are women. And you are we. And we are you’, gesturing to make her point clear. It wasn’t. But the crowd loved it all the same.

    Madonna popped up, her eyes inching ever closer to her ears to let us know Good did not win this election. (I didn’t even know Good was a candidate.)

    In the interests of full disclosure she told the crowd she had considered blowing up the White House’. The tolerant left also get PMT it seems.

    Another speaker, short on content but gushing with oestrogen shouted: ‘We are here’. (She was not wrong, we were). We will not be silenced. We will not play dead’.
    To be fair to Trump, I have not heard the silencing of females or women playing dead in his 100 day plan. Perhaps a more suitable venue for this speech would be outside the Saudi embassy, where the silencing of women is all the rage.

    A woman whipped into a frenzy by her own brilliance started listing girls’ names…we are here to be respected. We are here to be nasty.

    I think Madonna had already received this memo.

    And fuelled by these pearls of wisdom, the women set off for the streets, pussy ears perked, banners aloft, chanting as they went.

    ‘Tell me what democracy looks like?’ ‘This is what democracy looks like’.

    Ashley Judd lit up Twitter during the rally as she read a poem…that included the lines: ‘I feel Hitler in these streets, a mustache traded for a toupee,’ a clear reference to Trump
    I wanted to point out, respectfully, that democracy is the Electoral College system that saw Trump turn the map from blue to red. But there were a few million of them. And they had pictures of vaginas. So I decided this was not the time.

    I thought I heard the women chanting ‘Menstrual brew’ which had me wondering exactly what this lot were on. But listening more closely it turned out to be ‘Pence Sucks Too.’

    I was grateful for the clarity. I thought it was just Trump they hated. But it turns out it is all men. Apart from the ones who are transitioning to women.

    ‘What do we want? Equality’. ‘When do we want it?’ ‘NOW’.

    I wondered what in their world was not equal, but I guess if you have a massive chip on one shoulder the world is probably a bit askew.

    …An almighty army of women…
    They will not be silenced. That is clear. But they don’t know what it is they are shouting about. Anger is not enough
    For all my jibes, there was something truly impressive about the sheer scale of the crowds, the enormous number of women and men, filling the streets of Washington…

    But it is an army lacking a common purpose. Lacking a common cause. Every one of them wielding a placard for a different grudge they bear. Many unable to give a coherent reason for being there. Most at odds with the placards they carried…

    But simply being a woman is not enough.

    This was a march defined by gender, not purpose – much like Clinton’s campaign. And a march where the meaningless drivel of the speakers was matched by the lack of a clear aim of those marching.

    No one would argue their hearts were not in it. I found myself smiling at their happiness in each other’s company, their relief to be together, reminding each other they are not alone.

    But a shared sense of victimhood is not sufficient to make change happen. And at its most fundamental the unifying cause for these collected individuals is that they are not men.

    They will not be silenced. That is clear. But they don’t know what it is they are shouting about. Anger is not enough.

    Feminism has to be better than this. Better than posters telling me your vagina is tough. Or ‘this pussy grabs back’. So what? Mine can stash a 24 oz can of Coors Light. Sideways.

    Hilary tried to win by doing everything they’ve just done today – by being a woman, a woman who wants to be the candidate for everyone who feels like a victim, who feels maligned by society. She was the candidate for every cause, but master of none.

    The voices today? Just an echo of her mixed messages. And that wasn’t, isn’t enough.

    The left believes it is better than the rest. But it has prejudices of its own.

    The same prejudices that saw guests at the Armed Services Inauguration Ball spat at. Or Madonna saying she’d like to blow up the White House. Or the very fact you fell out over what to name the Women’s March in case it was divisive. Or for being too white.

    They even snubbed Hilary Clinton as an honoree for the Women’s March on Washington, because she was gracious and attended Trump’s inauguration. Imagine how much that day hurt her, and yet they rejected her despite her courage. Shame on them.

    These prejudices, these prevarications, this failure to stand for something, not represent everything, are exactly why people turn to Trump. And exactly why they lost and will continue to lose.

    They are strong, I watched them today.

    But they have to be better than this.

    You win if you offer a clear vision supported by this strength to get things done. Not just because you are a woman.

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