Te Tii day

Today is that day that (historically at least) media try to find headlines, protesters try to get in the headlines, some politicians try to get into the headlines and other politicians try to avoid getting into the headlines.

And the rest of New Zealand goes about their normal lives largely ignoring all the attention seeking.

ODT editorial: Waitangi Day change needed

Te Tii Marae is a traditional working marae at Waitangi, and is sometimes referred to as the lower marae, which dignitaries visit tomorrow  as part of their schedule before Waitangi Day on Monday. Waitangi National Trust Board chairman Pita Paraone, a New Zealand First MP, said the situation was ridiculous and he expressed shame at being a descendent of Ngapuhi.

The greed and a lack of nous in terms of creating an amicable atmosphere between Te Tii Marae and the rest of the community, not just the media, is disappointing.

Nothing can be done this year, because the damage has been done  even if Te Tii  retracted the condition  for media coverage.

It is time to stop the nonsense at Te Tii. Labour Te Tai Tokerau MP Kelvin Davis says next year something different will happen; it has become embarrassing for everyone. Mr Davis is a strong voice for Maoridom and if he is embarrassed it is  time  to start seriously reviewing what Waitangi Day has become.

Many people,  sadly, are turned right off what should be a national day of history and celebration — a genuine and heartfelt tribute to all those who developed this country, not a grandstanding opportunity for a few. Turning people away from Waitangi is no way to make progress. It is time for change.

Every New Zealander must be allowed to celebrate Waitangi Day in whichever way they choose. For the South, it is simple. Otakou marae has provided an open and warm invitation.

The best way to change it is for New Zealanders around the country to take ownership of the day and make more effort effort to turn Waitangi Day into something better.

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  1. Missy

     /  5th February 2017

    Here are some kiwi’s marking the day in a ‘traditional’ way – but sadly for the media no arrests, so no headlines.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/waitangi-day-hundreds-of-new-zealanders-mark-national-day-with-huge-london-pub-crawl-a3458481.html

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    • Kiwis in London seem to do a lot more to mark Waitangi Day than most of those still in New Zealand.

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      • Missy

         /  5th February 2017

        They just use it as an excuse for a pi** up!

        Seriously though, I think being so far from home makes things like Waitangi Day, Anzac Day etc more important, it gives that connection to home that sometimes you lose. This is why every kiwi in London just about turned out to watch the movies Tickled and Hunt for the Wilderpeople, it’s a connection to home.

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        • patupaiarehe

           /  5th February 2017

          Yes Kitty, that’s exactly what ‘The Circle Line pub crawl’ is! An excuse for Kiwi’s who are far from home, to indulge in our other ‘National sport’. And good on them. I’ve heard that the ‘Bobbies’ who are rostered on, love the good natured silliness of our ex-pats, and how there is very little real trouble from them.

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  2. Missy

     /  5th February 2017

    “The best way to change it is for New Zealanders around the country to take ownership of the day and make more effort effort to turn Waitangi Day into something better.”

    Something similar to the way Australia Day became re-branded I would say. It should start with local authorities organising events to celebrate NZ, maybe some fireworks, fairs and community events. The focus needs to come off Waitangi, and the official stuff – it needs to start by focussing on the communities. But whilst there is controversy around Waitangi the media will focus on that and everyone else’s focus will be put there as well.

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    • “Some Indigenous Australian events are now included [in Australia Day celebrations].

      However, since at least 1938 Australia Day has also been marked by various groups including Indigenous Australians and people sympathetic to their cause mourning what they see as the invasion of their land by Europeans, and protesting its celebration as a national holiday.

      These groups sometimes refer to 26 January as “Invasion Day” or “Survival Day” and advocate that the date should be changed.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Day

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  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  5th February 2017

    Seymour’s idea of taking it around the country seems to have legs. The rest of the country has had it with Nga Puhi.

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    • Yeah Alan, its a GR8 idea, very reminiscent of Trumps “tariffs on any new moves offshore by American industries” when those who wanted to go have long ago evacuated.

      A great election platform maybe? Very attractive to the ‘Hobson’s Pledge’, KFL, NZCPR & the Right Brigade generally …

      Why? Well, maybe ecause it won’t cost a cent extra of “other people’s money” to ‘introduce’ it … heck, it won’t even require legislation … It won’t require Seymour doing anything AT ALL!

      Fact is, the horse has already bolted long ago on this one …

      “On Waitangi Day, the Ministry for Culture and Heritage is supporting 58 community events across New Zealand that commemorate the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi.”

      http://www.mch.govt.nz/news-events/press-releases/waitangi-day-community-events-be-held-nationwide

      And that’s just the MCH sponsored events …

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  5th February 2017

        It’s one thing to spray other people’s money around, PZ. It’s another to send the political circus act on tour.

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        • Refer you RNZ’s bs Alan, and what English actually said … “he would be open to celebrating Waitangi Day in other parts of the country” … where in reality its already being celebrated anyhow …

          The travelling circus will cost a good deal more Other Peoples’ Money Alan …

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  4. One of the headline seekers, but the principle here is sound:

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  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  5th February 2017

    Had to laugh at Little saying he mightn’t be back next year unless the media were allowed entrance.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  5th February 2017

      Winston 1, Little 0.

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      • Weeeeell, that maybe depends how many Maori and non-Maori voters on the general roll he’s alienated? I doubt if he’ll actually win many farmers over, do you?

        Winston -1, Little 0

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  5th February 2017

          That depends on who the alternatives are, PZ. I bet he still gets a lot of Maori voters too and many will be unimpressed with Little’s vacuousness.

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    • That’s Little ‘Walter Mitty’ Kardashian you’re talking about eh Alan …?

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      • Geee, Bill English is onto it too, according to RadioNZ’s “PM keen to take Waitangi on the road” with John Kardashian Campbell.

        http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/323727/pm-keen-to-'take-waitangi-on-the-road

        You couldn’t manufacture easier and less expensive policy platforms or attention-grabbing headlines than this if you tried!

        Quite how RNZ garner their “on the road” headline from Bill English saying “if he was still Prime Minister next year, he would be open to celebrating Waitangi Day in other parts of the country” is quite beyond me … or would be if I didn’t understand ‘divide and rule’ …

        He’s celebrating it in “other parts of the country” this year FFS, namely at MCH’s “largest” Waitangi event, hosted by Ngati Whatua at Bastion Point …

        I hope some people take the time to visit and pay their respects to Micky Savage as well …

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  5th February 2017

          Time to build a proper shrine there to Other Peoples’ Money, PZ.

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          • If you want one, you and your ilk pay back all the Other Peoples’ Money you got for your free education, health and dental to pay for it Alan …

            What’s there is a monument to far-and-away Aotearoa New Zealand’s greatest Prime Minister …

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  5th February 2017

              His mate, John A Lee, didn’t think so, PZ.

            • And, in this nation that so deeply respects freedom of speech, John A Lee is perfectly entitled to his opinion Alan …

        • Check out the end of John Campbell, “Ngapuhi have lost their one chance this year to get the ear of the Prime Minister …”

          What utter crap! This is moments after a report about Bill English attending a thing called the IWI LEADERS FORUM at Waitangi … This SURELY included Ngapuhi leaders … !?

          Making NEWS … out of nothing at all …

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  5th February 2017

            If you listen to b.s. artists like Campbell, of course you are going to hear crap, PZ. Raise your sights, man.

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            • Every news agency in the MSM and web alternatives are reporting the same thing Alan, “Tense standoff at Te Tii marae” …

              As we established yesterday, these will be Right-Wing bias 5 to 1 …

              Lower your guard … ditch the armour … be a man …

            • Anyway Alan, what I wrote above is a CRITIQUE of John ‘Kardashian’ Campbell …

              Can’t you see that?
              Or doesn’t it equate with your own personal experience therefore it isn’t true …?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  5th February 2017

              I know you wrote it as a criticism. I’m just suggesting it is wasted on him.

            • Criticism seems to be wasted on brietbart and all the other Alt-Right ‘news’ outlets too … including the many who masquerade as impartial … have you noticed?

            • Gezza

               /  5th February 2017

              Deviation. Point deducted.
              (Points are deducted for hesitation, deviation & repetition.)

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  5th February 2017

              2 points off G for double duplication.

            • Gezza

               /  5th February 2017

              2 points off AC for tautology.
              And a further 2 points deducted for blimmin cheek. 😡

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  5th February 2017

              Give it up, AC. G has a PhD in Deviation.

            • Gezza

               /  5th February 2017

              No hesitation though. You’ll grant me that, Al, surely?

              (Mind you, it does present a few probs in the proof-reading department from time to time.) 😳

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  5th February 2017

              Absolutely, G, usually with minimal repetition too – except when you have found a particularly satisfying way to be annoying.

            • Gezza

               /  5th February 2017

              I am of course citing the debating rules from Just A Minute.

              “The object of the game is for panellists to talk for sixty seconds on a given subject, “without hesitation, repetition or deviation”. The comedy comes from attempts to keep within these rules … ”

              As you can see in the above clip, these rules are eminently suitable here for topics such as this one, where such sins, are not uncommon.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  5th February 2017

              I don’t like that last comma, G. It looks like a mortal sin to me.

            • Gezza

               /  5th February 2017

              So what’s your challenge then – hesitation or repetition?

  6. PDB

     /  5th February 2017

    Stuff: “The war of words continued with the Marae representative saying where Peters and media were standing – on the roadside directly outside the entrance to the Marae – was Te Tii property.

    “I’ve heard you, it’s not Marae property, what law are you citing?” Peters threw back.

    “Maori law,” was the response”.

    The entitlement is strong with this mob. If it is ‘Maori Law’ then wouldn’t Peter’s be within his rights to stand there?

    Here PZ, order your copy now…..

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  7. Actually, as New Zealander born and bred, I have no feelings of guilt about what the British colonial power did in their colonisation. It was their problem and one should not visit the wrongs of the fathers on their sons. I actually don’t see any cause for celebration on Waitangi day, because so many of our Maori citizens feel there is nothing to celebrate. So do away with it as a celebration, instead we should be looking to have a national unity day where we all come together. I am a member of an extended family that consists of at least 6 ethnicities last count, and believe we are a multi-cultural society that should be working together to create for the future, the best environment possible for all of our descendants to live in. We should honour the past as the past and focus on the future. If you would ather wallow in despair and hate, go ahead, your choice, but don’t stuff my descendants future or else.

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    • PDB

       /  5th February 2017

      bj: “because so many of our Maori citizens feel there is nothing to celebrate”.

      I beg to differ on this point bj – the activists, Treaty gravy-train merchants and hand-wringers like PZ are a small minority of people whilst the bulk of all cultures that make up this great country of ours get on with enjoying the day together as one. Most Maori gain nothing from the treaty settlements (still awaiting the ‘trickle down’) and consider Maori to be only a portion of their total genetic make-up. Most Maori I know are just as likely to also celebrate their Irish ancestry on St Paddy’s day.

      I’ve been out with mates today (yep, some Maori brothers & sisters too) and everywhere I went people were enjoying the great weather in a positive way. Most people identifying themselves as Maori treat it as a day for spending time with friends and whanau alike, the very small number of Maori that feel there is nothing to celebrate are welcome to do what they like but don’t be fooled into thinking they are the face of the majority.

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