US discussion – Saturday

If there’s news or issues from the USA worth discussing today you can do it here.

43 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  February 11, 2017

    The DONALD OF THE UNITED STATES Twitter rants so far today:
    ……
    SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!
    ……
    LAWFARE: “Remarkably, in the entire opinion, the panel did not bother even to cite this (the) statute.” A disgraceful decision!
    ……
    The failing ‪@nytimes‬ does major FAKE NEWS China story saying “Mr.Xi has not spoken to Mr. Trump since Nov.14.” We spoke at length yesterday!
    ……
    More twits may be found here: https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
    ……
    A relatively quiet day for the DOTUS so far – last seen on Aljazeera this morning giving a speech next to Prime Minister Abe of Japan without so far putting his foot in it.

    Saturday 11 Feb 2017. 0800 hours

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  February 11, 2017

      “And then he tweets SEE YOU IN COURT…..just after LOSING in court ❗ ”

    • Gezza

       /  February 11, 2017

      “Paul Nuttall, the Ukip leader, says he is “massively excited” by the advent of President Trump … ”

      Why do they all have such curiously accurately descriptive names ?

      Very good Lurch. Definitely would hoover up yet another point for you on a Scoring Day.

      • Missy

         /  February 11, 2017

        Be careful what you say about him, Paul Nuttall could be the next MP for Stoke on Trent, latest polls apparently have him ahead in what is a safe Labour seat.

        • Gezza

           /  February 11, 2017

          I’m sure he is a wonderful candidate, however I am not responsible in any for the gentleman’s surname Missy. For that we must blame the parents. There is such a thing as changing one’s name by Deed Poll, which they blantantly failed to do, unlike the Drumpfs.

          • Missy

             /  February 14, 2017

            Fair point, except on being a wonderful candidate, many disagree. He justnbenefits by being a UKIP candidate in a Leave area where labour have put up a staunch Europhile.

            • Gezza

               /  February 14, 2017

              It might just be me Missy, but don’t you think ‘Europhile’ these days sounds sort of, well, almost sleazy ? 😳

            • Missy

               /  February 14, 2017

              It does to a brexiter, so I guess that makes you one of the winners G! 🙂

              On contemplation G I now have mental images in my head trying to think of what is sleazy about the word, and to be honest none are pretty….

        • Gezza

           /  February 11, 2017

          * way. Coffee infusion may fix my proof-reading problem. 😳

    • Gezza

       /  February 11, 2017

      “As objectionable as the press might his policies, they are exactly the one that voters put Trump into office to carry out.”

      Obviously their editor is no better at proof-reading than moi.

      Very interesting article Missy. Quite likely to give some refuge to a desperate Sir Al. Also possibly quite wrong & the simple fact may be that apart from the hayseeds, sodbusters, rustlers, hustlers & other assorted Trump-troughers, it is dawning on a few voters that they may have elected the Adams Family to govern them for a comparatively short time. We shall see.

      • Missy

         /  February 11, 2017

        I think the truth is somewhere between the two extremes of Trump views, those that loathe him, and those that idolise him.

        I am willing to give him a chance and see how it pans out over the next 6-9 months, without the hysteria that we have seen to date. I tend to read both sides and then think the truth is in the middle.

        It is interesting to listen to Piers Morgan talking about Trump, and the hysteria of the left over his election, this is because Piers Morgan knows him well, and knows the man, not just the media or public personality – this is not to say he agrees with him, and Morgan has been honest saying if he was American he would never have voted for Trump, but his view on Trump’s character is interesting.

    • lurcher1948

       /  February 11, 2017

      read this article,there could be a method in his madness,Missy,

      • Missy

         /  February 14, 2017

        Yep, then again there might not be, I think it is too soon to tell yet.

        And yep I am being a fencesitter on this issue. 😬

  2. Missy

     /  February 11, 2017

    Related to Trump, but also a comment on wider political activism, this is quite an interesting take on it all, and specifically the hysteria and irrational behaviour around Trump.

    There are some points in this article which are valid.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/conscripting-everything-trainers-football-teams-imaginary-political/

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 11, 2017

    This story and many of the comments seem more important than any of the overseas news today:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/89229804/delayed-bowel-cancer-diagnosis-a-death-sentence-for-ashburton-mother

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 11, 2017

      Sorry, meant that to go in Open Forum.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 11, 2017

        Alas, rectal bleeding could be many things, and it’s an appalling shock to discover how many cancers don’t have the decency to display symptoms until it’s too late. That’s one of the cruel things about the disease; it’s asymptomatic until it’s well advanced.

    • NOEL

       /  February 11, 2017

      I’m alive today because the specialist recommended that I go private for the colonoscopy and MRI. Fortunately for me private insurance was part of my salary package at the time..

  4. duperez

     /  February 11, 2017

    “Coming soon: Donald Trump’s ‘phenomenal’ tax plan”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/89307926/coming-soon-donald-trumps-phenomenal-tax-plan

    We know he’s right into tax!

  5. Joe Bloggs

     /  February 11, 2017

    Disastrous new Public Policy Polling results for the Republican administration under 45:

    Trump’s approval rating is just 43% while his disapproval rating has shot up to 53%

    Just three weeks into his administration, voters are already evenly divided on the issue of impeaching Trump with 46% in favor and 46% opposed.

    Trump’s Muslim ban gets 45 percent support, with 49 percent opposed, but among those who do support Trump voters say that the “Bowling Green Massacre” shows why Trump’s immigration policy is needed (wtf? Let’s justify policy with made-up lies)

    By a 48/43 spread, voters do think that the intent of the Executive Order is a Muslim ban.
    And just 22% support a Muslim ban, to 65% who are opposed.

    66 percent of those polled said the ban was poorly executed so Trump’s basic competence is getting the doubt it deserves.

    64% don’t think Trump should have the right to overturn judicial decisions he doesn’t like.

    Voters think he should fully divest from his business interests and release his tax returns. They don’t like Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Sean Spicer, Betsy DeVos, or Russia. They increasingly do like Obamacare, as they’re faced with the prospect of losing it.

    Back when Trump was leading polls, he loved to point to polls as evidence of great and true things. Now all he can say is “fake news.” But oh, wait. Another of this poll’s findings is that “Voters are increasingly taking the media’s side in [Trump’s] fights with them.”

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/02/americans-now-evenly-divided-on-impeaching-trump.html

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 11, 2017
    • Gezza

       /  February 11, 2017

      😯 (Pssst, Al – “loony” = 10-year-old childish insult. Just hope nobody notices.) 😕

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 11, 2017

        Oxford English Dictionary: loony = silly. You might qualify, G.

        • Gezza

           /  February 11, 2017

          We discussed that the other day, Al. They’re just being silly. Loony = lunatic = mad, insane. I doubt these other children you refer to are insane. Let’s just pretend you never said it & keep this to ourselves.

          Gorgeous day, & no wind (yet). I’ve got ducks to feed. Might catch up a bit later. Still luv ya like an Irish brother. You know that eh? Good value, you are.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  February 11, 2017

            The Oxford Dictionary is far too serious to be silly, G. But Corbyn and the Lib-Dems manage to be both.

    • Missy

       /  February 14, 2017

      After his latest indiscretion it may backfire, time will tell. More later tonight when I get home.

  7. Nelly Smickers

     /  February 11, 2017

    This just in on Wayne’s twitter feed ❗

    Sounds like things might get *really really* interesting……

    • Gezza

       /  February 11, 2017

      • Nelly Smickers

         /  February 11, 2017

        Cheers Geez….reminds me, I better get the creep his breakfast 😡

        • Gezza

           /  February 11, 2017

          What’s the bloody cretin done to ya now, Nell?

          • Nelly Smickers

             /  February 11, 2017

            That’s just it Geez – nuthin’ !

          • Gezza

             /  February 11, 2017

            This is what you get when you marry an idiot savant, Nellers. Why not tell him to pull his finger out or you’ll give him the elbow?

  8. Gezza

     /  February 11, 2017

    Slow day here. Few victims. Even Al’s wary. Going to check out The Standard.

    • Gezza

       /  February 11, 2017

      Fark. Fantasyland.
      Will try The Daily Blog.

      • Gezza

         /  February 11, 2017

        Less said the better.
        Kiwiblog maybe.

        • Gezza

           /  February 11, 2017

          Heavy drinkers would be my bet. Early starters too.
          I’ll just log out of here for statistical purposes & check out the Whale’s Hades.

          • Gezza

             /  February 11, 2017

            I dunno. Can’t put my finger on it. Begging for subs a bit naff. Graveyard there too, article-wise today. Didn’t go through everything. Had a page crash, all the ads I expect. Guitar practice & the news I think. Better off staying here I reckon.

  9. Nelly Smickers

     /  February 11, 2017

    WOW – looks like they’ve *really, really* tightened up these days:!: When I went to LA a couple of years ago, they only went through my bag……