US discussion – Thursday

If there’s news or issues from the USA worth discussing today you can do it here.

Leave a comment

30 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  February 16, 2017

    The DONALD OF THE UNITED STATES Twitter rants so far today:
    ……
    Obamacare continues to fail. Humana to pull out in 2018. Will repeal, replace & save healthcare for ALL Americans.
    ……
    The fake news media is going crazy with their conspiracy theories and blind hatred. ‪@MSNBC‬ & ‪@CNN‬ are unwatchable. ‪@foxandfriends‬ is great!
    ……
    This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton’s losing campaign.
    ……
    Information is being illegally given to the failing ‪@nytimes‬ & ‪@washingtonpost‬ by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?).Just like Russia
    ……
    Thank you to Eli Lake of The Bloomberg View – “The NSA & FBI…should not interfere in our politics…and is” Very serious situation for USA
    ……
    Crimea was TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Administration. Was Obama too soft on Russia?
    ……
    The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by “intelligence” like candy. Very un-American!
    ……
    Trump just shown on Aljazeera News alongside the execrable Bibi Netanyau threatening Iran and saying he doesn’t necessarily support the 2-state solution in Palestine #wrappedaroundbibisfinger #troubleahead #bibihappy [Ed.]
    ……
    More tweets may be found here: https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
    ……
    Thur 16 Feb 2017. 0818 hours

    Reply
  2. duperez

     /  February 16, 2017

    I remember a thing called “new maths” happening. There must be a new new maths. When it’s in the hands of someone in charge of a nation’s education you know it’ll be a goodie. 🙃

    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/devos-says-trumps-forty-per-cent-approval-rating-means-more-than-half-of-country-supports-him

    Reply
  3. Gezza Thanks for updates on Trump info. Death to the CIA, NSA and FBI. Drain the swamp. America will be great again ..

    Reply
  4. Gezza

     /  February 16, 2017

    Al Jazeera
    “DEVELOPING STORY”

    Trump: Two-state solution not only way to achieve peace
    US President says one-state or two-state solution possible as long as sides agree, after meeting Israeli PM Netanyahu.

    Post on this: https://yournz.org/2017/02/16/trump-and-net/

    Reply
  5. Nelly Smickers

     /  February 16, 2017

    It’s absolutely amazing just how many comments this *USA Discussion post* attracts every day…..over 90 again yesterday alone. *Trumpy* sure knows how to draw the crowds ❗

    I can’t help but wonder just how many responses we would see dedicated to *OUR new Prime Minister*, if PG had posted something like a daily *NZ discussion…* since Bill took over the reins from JK ❓

    just saying 😄

    Reply
    • Joe Bloggs

       /  February 16, 2017

      I’m sure that if Bill English ruled over NZ with the same mixture of malevolence and astonishing incompetence that trumpy exhibits then there would be plenty of commentary.

      Until that day, I’m happy tofocus on the actions of an utterly inept, narcissistic US administration as it turns order into chaos.

      Reply
      • Nelly Smickers

         /  February 16, 2017

        Oh’ yeah Joe? Bet you wouldn’t say that it to her face ❗

        Reply
        • Anonymous Coward

           /  February 16, 2017

          It’s almost as if there’s a human being trying to break out from behind all that botox and foundation.

          Reply
          • Nelly Smickers

             /  February 16, 2017

            Gosh – she looks quite natural to me.

            Reply
            • Gezza

               /  February 16, 2017

              Not that I would be so cuel as to actually call any lady one, the picture I always have in my mind when I see or hear the word hag is remarkably similar to that one. 😳

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  February 16, 2017

          You ever see the movie Alien, Nellie? Just sayin’

          Reply
  6. Joe Bloggs

     /  February 16, 2017

    Paul Krugman nails a fundamental flaw in the Republican administration.

    The election was not just a triumph of bigotry, Krugman posits, but a rejection of experts, careful thought and anything that smacks of intellectualism. Too elite, apparently.

    On the bright side, he suggests, it just might be that the idiocy will put the brakes on the malevolence.

    What we’ve seen instead over the past three weeks is an awesome display of raw ignorance on every front. Worse, there’s no hint that either the White House or its allies in Congress see this as a problem. They appear to believe that expertise, or even basic familiarity with a subject, is for wimps; ignorance is strength.

    Reply
    • Yet again, Paul Krugman and the NYT writing off the American Electoral College result and mandate for change, masked as care for governance. He’s never written anything vaguely supportive of any Republican, so Trumpist Presidency is daily fodder for his blatant preference.

      Reply
    • High Flying Duck

       /  February 16, 2017

      Perhaps he needs to look in the mirror and contemplate the possibility it was a defeat for smug self aggrandising elitism?

      Reply
  7. Joe Bloggs

     /  February 16, 2017

    Former CIA analyst, now professor of government at John Hopkins, Melvin Goodman on former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn

    it’s important to acknowledge at the outset that Flynn was probably the least qualified and the most questionable individual in the 70-year history of the National Security Council to be selected as the president’s sherpa for national security policy. His behavior during the presidential campaign was thoroughly unprofessional and a source of embarrassment to the military establishment and the Republican Party. His retirement from the military several years ago was engineered by the White House and the Joint Chiefs of Staff because of his failed stewardship at the Defense Intelligence Agency. He had a reputation at DIA as a polemicist, and many of his pronouncements there were derided as “Flynn facts” because they had no basis in actual fact.

    Flynn’s lies to Vice President Pence made it inevitable that he would be forced to resign. Donald Trump was already impatient with Flynn because the general, who was poorly grounded in geopolitical and geoeconomic affairs, couldn’t tell the president the international implications of a strong vs. a weak dollar on the global economy. The fact that Flynn was unaware or unconcerned that his conversations with the Russian ambassador in Washington would be recorded by the FBI and the National Security Agency was not exactly a feather in his cap as a long-term intelligence professional. And the fact that he claimed not to remember his discussions with the Russian ambassador is not a recommendation for any high-level position in the decision making community, let alone the advisor closest to the president on foreign policy.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/02/15/flynn-russia-and-the-world-of-conspiracy-thinking/

    Reply
    • artcroft

       /  February 16, 2017

      Yeah but how did all these leaks about his convo with Putins boys come out? Because the intelligence agencies decided Flynn wasn’t going to be in charge after all and leaked all over the place. What if the US military decide Trump’s pick for leader doesn’t suit either? Hmmm….

      Reply
  8. Joe Bloggs

     /  February 16, 2017

    In news at 11 it seems that not even Republican senators will support trump’s nominations.

    Several news outlets are reporting that the labor secretary nomination of Andy Puzder will be withdrawn. This follows a message top Senate Republicans sent the White House earlier Wednesday requesting that the White House do so.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/02/15/andy_puzder_withdraws_nomination_for_labor_secretary.html

    Correspondent Jim Newell adds:

    It should be pointed out, too, that Puzder’s loss of Republican support has little to do with his record of pulverizing low-wage workers as a boss. That was the whole point of considering him! And they would’ve gotten away, too, if it wasn’t for that Oprah [show on which allegations of spousal abuse were made by Puzder’s ex-wife]. Ah, well. Trump should have no difficulty finding another rich person with a horrendous record on, and future ambitions for, the degradation of working conditions to put in charge of American labor policy.

    Reply
  9. I sense that there is a number of us who are being affected by the rhetoric of the US MSM, particularly those beacons of progressive liberalism The New York Times and The Washington Post, Huntingdon etc etc when they talk about the person that is President Trump. There seems to be a competition to use the most unflattering descriptions of his intellect, ability to win friends and influence people, and vilify his character. Painting him in an orange hue, looking to publish the most unflattering photos, attacking the integrity of his family etc. And yet Trump is slowly asserting change at a remarkable rate, and has a significant amount of support behind him. If the Democrat plan to unseat him by impeachment or destruction of the framework of his administration both of which are publicly pursued, then the dogs of civil war will be let loose, and the winners will be Russia, China and probably the Pentagon. America as you want it?

    Reply
    • Anonymous Coward

       /  February 16, 2017

      I’m fairly confident that even if I limited my news sources to the sycophantic Alt-right media for the next three months I’d still think Trump was an idiot. Amidst biased rhetoric and opinion the facts are still the core. The facts show a man who’e flailing at the moment.

      Reply
    • artcroft

       /  February 16, 2017

      It isn’t the Democrats angling for impeachment. Its the general citizenry with an intellect over 99 points.

      Reply
      • Yes artcroft, however have a look at these exchanges about TRump, and test your theory. Check out Schindler’s background thru Google as well.
        See ‘https://twitter.com/20committee/status/831954920635039751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw”

        Reply
        • I have attached the main comment about Schindler here for your edification:

          “According to former NSA analyst John Schindler, elements of the intelligence community have gone “nuclear” against President Donald Trump and are now vowing “he will die in jail”.
          Schindler, a former professor at the Naval War College, is known to be provocative with his tweets, but what he revealed earlier today is still raising eyebrows.
          Schindler was asked by another Twitter user, “What do you think is going on inside NatSec right now after Trump’s “intelligence” tweet this morning?”
          That was a reference to Trump tweeting that information was being illegally leaked by members of the CIA and NSA to the Washington Post and the New York Times.
          Schindler responded, “Now we go nuclear. IC war going to new levels. Just got an EM fm senior IC friend, it began: “He will die in jail.”

          Reply
        • Joe Bloggs

           /  February 16, 2017

          Schindler also made a further tweet:

          “intelligence is not the problem here. The President’s collusion with Russian intelligence is. Many details, but the essence is simple.”

          If there is truth in what Schindler says then his anger is righteous and appropriately directed.

          Reply
  10. Conspiratoor

     /  February 16, 2017

    A man with a satchel called the football sat down beside Obama at Trump’s inauguration. At the precise moment Trump took the oath, that man stood up and moved silently to Trump’s side. In the football was a biscuit, and in the biscuit was a very important piece of computer hardware

    Reply
  11. Missy

     /  February 17, 2017

    It is reported that Trump has offered Vice Admiral Robert Harward the position of National Security Adviser, reports are that instead of accepting right away he asked to be able to think it over for a couple of days.

    I don’t know much about this guy, but I understand he was on the National Security Council During G W Bush presidency, he is also reported as being a former Navy Seal.

    Reply

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s