Trump fully briefed on Flynn’s calls with Russian ambassador

Donald trumps problems with media reports deteriorate as even Fox News slams him and raises serious issues about Michael Flynns contact with Russia.

 

And Fox News: Trump fully briefed on Flynn’s calls with Russian ambassador, source says

President Trump was given a comprehensive summary of the contents of his former-national security adviser Michael Flynn’s phone calls with the Russian ambassador prior to Flynn’s resignation, a source told Fox News.

Trump did not see the actual transcript of the communications, but the summary was delivered by people outside the White House. Trump has maintained that he believes Flynn did nothing wrong.

“Mike was doing his job,” Trump said at a news conference Thursday. “He was calling countries and his counterparts … I would have directed him to do it if I thought he wasn’t doing it. I didn’t direct him, but I would have directed him because that’s his job.”

Flynn was forced to resign Monday over discussions he had with Russian officials before Trump took office.

Flynn denied in an FBI interview last month that he had discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with Moscow’s ambassador to the United States, contradicting transcripts of intercepted communications between the two men, the Washington Post reported Thursday.

And someone asked by trump to replace Flynn has turned down the position for ‘personal reasons’.

Fox News: Harward turns down Trump’s national security adviser offer, sources say

President Trump’s first choice to succeed the departed Michael Flynn as national security adviser has turned the job down due to family reasons, sources close to the situation told Fox News late Thursday.

One source told Fox that retired Navy Vice Admiral Robert Harward “really wanted” to do the job, but ultimately decided that he could not.

A senior administration official said that Harward’s acceptance of the national security adviser post was contingent on the agreement of his family. The official said Harward’s wife and other family members wanted him to remain in the private sector.

I’m not surprised his family didn’t want him involved.

The ones achieving the most in the Trump administration are ‘sources’.

55 Comments

  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 17, 2017

    As I said this morning, the US is in the midst of a civil war. Civil wars are the most venomous. Having got him back from the army I can fully understand why his family didn’t want him going to war.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 17, 2017

      I can understand why they didn’t want him within an asses roar of the Orange Man.

    • Anonymous Coward

       /  February 17, 2017

      Still got those GI Joe underpants on?

      • patupaiarehe

         /  February 17, 2017

        Alan has already told us, that he doesn’t wear undies in bed 😀

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  February 17, 2017

          Haven’t got there yet, patu. More reports from the Western Front tomorrow.

          • patupaiarehe

             /  February 17, 2017

            It’s a big yawn from me Al, as far as the ‘Western front’ goes.

    • David

       /  February 18, 2017

      Exactly. The swamp isn’t going to get drained quietly, it’s fighting back.

  2. Nelly Smickers

     /  February 17, 2017

  3. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 17, 2017

    Trump’s mental health seems to be deteriorating by the day. He’ll be the first president to leave the White House in a strait-jacket.

    He keeps setting up straw men, like people thinking that it’s terrible to get on all right with Russia-few, surely, would want another Cold War. Then he knocks the straw men down.

    No wonder someone’s family didn’t want them to be anywhere near Trump.

    • Do your actually see the Conference calls Kitty /? Idiots like you you are writing out of your backsides.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 19, 2017

        A physical impossibility, surely ?

        Many people have come to the same conclusion about his sanity, which seems to have escaped your notice.

  4. artcroft

     /  February 17, 2017

    The talking head in that clip was most compelling.

  5. This issue runs so much deeper than this Flynn issue. Until the CIA and so-called Deep State are purged of Brennan and Clapper’s boys and girls the better. It’s impossible for Trump and team to fight back against the power these men have, their capacity to surveil and leak at will. They’ll work against anyone put in into their echelons.

  6. Traveller is correct above. If you watch the entire Trump conference without the MSN rinsing the situation Trump wipes the floor with all of them . He admits there are leaks due to Islmaobama traitors and that the MSN is rinsing the news as they are. Trump wil be the greatest president in USA history.

  7. Why is it that so many of us and the media are spending so much time and effort finding different ways to trash the US peoples’ legally elected President? We are engaging in our famous game of tall poppies cropping. When are we going to focus on present risks to our economy, what the policies of our own political parties. What value is there in Gezza quoting selected tweets from the President under the trashing term ‘THE SO-CALLED PRESIDENT OF THE US”? If that is what you like to see, then try Following Trump on Twitter and get it first-hand. We are not getting the whole story here in this blog or elsewhere in NZ because too many one-sided points of view are being posted or published. Me, I am going to talk to the grandkids because they are better focused on the real things of life in NZ, and make much more sense.

    • Gezza

       /  February 19, 2017

      I do it because he’s the most important political figure in the world today, Bj. And what he says and does is so important. The world has seen no other American President like him, no-one anywhere near as egotistical & narcissistic (in my opinion) & thus likely to be easily manipulated by appeals to his vanity, none so haphazard, none so gleefully uniformed on details nor so preoccupied with his image & what people are saying about him, nor as casual with the truth in pursuit of winning at all costs, nor as blatantly hypocritical, nor as nepotistic, nor as secretive about his actual financial position, nor as unlikely to have ever succeeded in a bid for the presidency.

      Nor as vilified by the Press, who actually just increase his profile.

      And yet he has hit on the key things that many people feel is wrong with America, and promised to fix them. Loss of jobs, ‘bought’ politicians, Corporate greed/globalism, ‘radical Islam’, increasingly expensive medical insurance, expensive & wasteful bureaucracy getting ripped off by contractors, loss of American mana, etc.

      Along with all those other other characteristics described above (as I see them), & the egotistical belief that he is a really smart dude, does the best deals, and that & pretty much those & the sheer force of his personality & ‘naturally wise’ choices of lieutenants are that’s all that’s needed to fix anything he thinks is wrong.

      He’s so flawed, so flamboyant, so seemingly shallow, so outrageous, so much a reality tv star still. And yet, I believe he genuinely wants to make America a better place for all Americans. And, insofar as someone like him can be, he probably actually wants to help make the world a safer, more peaceful place – though how he intends to go about it seems to be as & seemingly unplanned & often apparently contradictory as most of his other objectives seem to have been.

      He fascinates me. And obviously he fascinates the rest of the world too. Because whatever he does affects the entire globe.

  8. Balance?

    • Gezza

       /  February 19, 2017

      Yep. 👍 The light blue one. Has a creamy flavour but doesn’t taste fatty like the dark blue full cream.

      • 100% negative posts and too many slagging expressions, but don’t take it personally!

        • Gezza

           /  February 19, 2017

          Well, I’ll try for about 80/20. But he has to earn it. It’s one thing to argue someone holds an office & therefore should automatically be treated with respect: it’s another when he got there by disrespecting all his opponents & now behaves like a spoilt child while holding it.

          • Gezza

             /  February 19, 2017

            Also, Bj, come on mate, a lot of my comments on the DOTUS are waaay tongue in cheek. I’d actually like him to suceed, for one term anyway. But he’s not handling this media thing properly imo. This tweeting rushes of blood to the head obsession is ending up making him a caricature.

          • I actually thought he was quite gentlemanly to Hilary when face to face with her. But she was as flawed certainly as much if not more than Trump. I toyed with referring you to a BBC commentary that looked at the imbalance of reporting about Trump, and how illogical some comments were. For example the illegals issue where Obama had already exceeded ay other Presidents including Trump in the deportation numbers gain. But what is the point? I am still waiting for the economic and fiscal news before I make a decision about success/failure. The MSM are no help in their comments that are by and large overstated and emotional hate speech. I don’t like Trump as a person, but if I hated everyone who offended my sensibilities, I wouldn’t have much a life, eh?

          • POSTED BY: JON CHAMBERS 18 FEBRUARY 2017
            Following the now-legendary election of November 8th, Democrats and those surrounding the Clinton camp were quick to build hysteria between the U.S. populous and Russia—aimed specifically at discrediting President Trump’s Democratic victory.

            The media has hounded Trump and his team almost relentlessly, questioning them daily on their ‘relationships’ with Putin and the Kremlin.

            While the FBI cleared Trump on October 31st, the media forgot and reignited their perpetual Trump-hating rhetoric once word of the recent Flynn incident came to light.

            Liberals hoping to oust Trump in his first days began to spread the news of General Flynn’s December conversations far and wide. News agencies from every part of the country released statements poised at dismantling the new President.

            ABC news is now crushing that narrative though, and reports that the claims are baseless.

            “A senior intelligence official told ABC News last night that no evidence gathered by the FBI so far suggests Trump associates knew they were talking to Russian intelligence officers.”

            As even more evidence continues to come forth that Trump and his administration are clean in their words, acts, and intentions regarding foreign policy, expect to receive an all-new level of media spin that makes yellow journalism look like child’s play.”

            Gezza. To comment please? Note source.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2017

              I found the linked article inside interesting. Personally I have never thought there was any collusion by Trump associates with the Russians, though the Flynn issue goes straight to the heart of integrity, honesty, cerebral effectiveness & naivety.

              http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russian-spies-eye-golden-prize-white-house-source/story?id=45531117

              One thing that I think is a potential concern is how easily I suspect Trump is persuaded that someone is intelligent when in fact they only have sufficient wit to agree with him. It’s not an uncommon phenomenon, is it? They agree with me, so they must be intelligent to know that I’m right?

              Why did you ask me to note source,Bj? And can you refine down specifically what you wanted comment on? I think the Administration is well rid of Flynn.

    • Gezza

       /  February 19, 2017

      Just pulling your leg there, 😀. You know me.

      What do you mean exactly by ‘balance’, Bj?

      Are you talking about us not bring so preoccupied with Trump, or questionning whether there’s enough balance in media reporting on him?

      If the latter, no, I don’t think there is enough balance, but I think Trumpy is personally & continually as much responsible for this state of affairs as much as the msm might be. Happy to elaborate if you want me to. Only my own opinions of course.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  February 19, 2017

        I get what BJ is saying. I appreciate your comments – and there is a lot of merit in what you say. Trump has thrown away the diplomatic rule book and has decided the existing system is broken and he will be forging a new way where rhetoric has little importance, and actions take centre stage.

        Having grown increasingly frustrated at weasel words, diplomatic speak and ever increasing methods of spouting change while doing nothing, I am watching with interest to see who breaks first – Trump or the establishment.

        The media is firmly entrenched on the side of the establishment and has clearly nailed its flag to mast of the status quo. This is leading to the quite incredible volume of rubbish being published.

        I read that Obama in 2013 deported over 400,000 illegal immigrants and at the time said criminals, murderers and gangbangers had no place in the USA. Sounds very similar to what I’m hearing from the current POTUS, but I do not recall the protests, the dogwhistle racism calls and blanket coverage of the issue that we’re getting now for far smaller numbers of deportations.

        Trump says deport illegal immigrants who have committed violent crime – the reporters publish that Trump is anti-immigration and a racist.

        Back to BJ’s comment – what you said above does not mesh with the tenor of your comments, which almost always imply Trump is incompetent. There is no balance…

        • Gezza

           /  February 19, 2017

          I think that’s probably fair comment, but I would have voted for him, expecting him to behave in a more businesslike manner in the job. I didn’t expect poise & polish, he’s a brash New Yorker, as trav described him yesterday. Loud & proud. But some of these tweets are stupid, HFD – spoiled little egomaniac stuff. And he’s broken promises – tax returns, has he really relinquished control if his businesses, what is all this crap with appointing the kid & hubby to top jobs, what are all these half-assed bs claims like the biggest electoral college win since Reagan?

          Get rid of Bannon. Bad news.

          Where is his freaking head at? (I’m saying, I’m on the side of the irritated voter who voted for him hoping for change, asap. And he’s carrying on like a spoilt brat. Knock it off. Get on with it.

          You know, maybe my fault, but the only thing I can think of that he’s got my full support for was the order to use US steel for US pipelines. Maybe the Keystone job, but it’s a question of they go about addressing the local indigenous people’s issues.

          Do you get what I’m saying? He’s pissing around on twaddle, giving the media ammo.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  February 19, 2017

            I get what you’re saying – but the point remains he is having to defend himself from attacks on issues that other Presidents were given a free pass over. He is definitely eccentric and certainly talks himself up far more than any normal person would – but as I mentioned elsewhere, this is no change from his campaigning before the election. It is non-issue because he was voted in anyway, so perhaps it is time to move on.

            He is coming at things from a different way and I am withholding judgement until the results of his actions are apparent.

            In the meantime the coverage of him does the media no credit whatsoever, and I believe is harmful in the long term as it will turn a large number of people off.

            If no-one listens to the media because they have become shrill partisans, who is left to hold the Government to account on the real issues?

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2017

              👍

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2017

              So far just me & you, by the look of it. Alan will just make excuses. 😡

            • High Flying Duck

               /  February 19, 2017

              There’s only so far “diversion – you lose!” gets you in a debate…

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 19, 2017

              Sock it to him, HFD. He expects Trump to behave like a bureaucrat and perform like Superman. Ain’t gonna happen but what is happening is quite remarkable enough.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2017

              HFD is not ‘socking it to’ me Al. You’re too pugnacious. We are having a rational conversation & an honest exchange of views, & giving our perspectives on the man. I have no argument with HFD’s views, they make perfect sense. I am always open to persusasion if there are things I haven’t considered or that I could perhaps look at through other eyes, so to speak.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 19, 2017

              What you see as excuses I see as rational explanations. He won’t change just because you think he should.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2017

              Well, I venture to suggest that neither will the media just because he & you want it to. Doing what he does now is riveting reality tv & gossip mag material. They are feeding off each other, manufacturing their own brands of scandal. Imo the Dems have become secondary to the drama. Spent force, except as pots to raid & stir by all parties.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 19, 2017

              Where have I ever said I expect or want the MSM to change? I expect them to continue what they do for as long as they can find mugs to fund them. I have said this is a civil war that will continue until one side is defeated. Trump could be overthrown quickly but the media can only be defeated slowly.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2017

              The only thing Trump has to do to win the war is so simple anybody else would do it.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  February 19, 2017

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 19, 2017

              No-one else has ever got themself into his position to do it so it isn’t simple. Neither will it be quick. There are big vested interests to disvest and that means a lot of unhappy people with a grudge.

            • Gezza

               /  February 19, 2017

              Drake droppings, Al. Steely resolve & a cool head & he’d be away laughing.

  9. I now await the “popular press’s denial of the FBI assessment. Why will they do this? Because it does not fit with the strategic plan that I published mumble days ago. Have a look at how much money the Democratic PACs have in their war chests. More than $US2 Billion, and that is change as far as their attempt to override the legitimately elected Government of the US. Who is driving this? Russia? Bildenberg? (Soros is an esteemed member), Clinton, also a Bildenbeg member? (Is he really a pediaphile as claimed by some? Is Hilary a Satanist? Her former Chief of Staff has attended Satanist rituals?)
    They are all fairly steamy allegations, and I wonder where the truth lays? Who knows. Can you imagine the sort of after election crap happening in NZ if, say National is defeated? What about if Labour is defeated? What about the Peters Party? (Know what the Peter Principle is?)
    Gezza, its your fault, you got me started!

    • Gezza

       /  February 19, 2017

      Slow down, mon colonel, you’re popping up all over the place. If I have inadvertantly over-stimulated you I apologise to anybody who might be adversely affect by the results, but personally I appreciate your perspectives, so I am taking them seriously, and not taking the mickey.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  February 19, 2017

        How are you still posting? I thought I’d socked it to you? You should be down for the count!

        • Gezza

           /  February 19, 2017

          I slipped out during intermission – floated like butterfly. Your haymaker actually took out the ref. It took out Al as well. Has he come round properly yet? He seemed confused earlier.

          I was in the bar after the 3rd round. Polish exited.

          Your shades are too dark, obviously. Dump your manager. He’s robbing you blind & he’s obviously useless.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  February 19, 2017

            Beware the Irish blarney, HFD. You won’t recognise the fight you won after G has finished telling his story.

      • Nelly Smickers

         /  February 19, 2017

        I wonder if they have a kids menu?

        • patupaiarehe

           /  February 19, 2017

          How a woman with an appetite like that, can maintain such a fine figure, is beyond my understanding Nelly. I’m picking that there is probably a space for her, in DOTUS’s administration… 😉

      • patupaiarehe

         /  February 19, 2017

        Jeezus AC! That is almost unbelievable. Oh hang on, I seem to have inadvertently put the word ‘almost’ in my last sentence. My bad 😛