Open Forum – Sunday

19 February 2017

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30 Comments

  1. patupaiarehe

     /  February 19, 2017

    This is cause for concern…
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/89292002/waikato-drug-rehab-facilities-at-maximum-capacity-due-to-methamphetamine

    One hit of meth could release a level of dopamine in the brain at a rate three times that of having sex.
    “It is a pleasure chemical – when you eat food, listen to music, have sex, use alcohol or cocaine – the amount of dopamine is about 300 a unit. With methamphetamine, the amount of dopamine released is about 1000 units.”
    “The brain learns that methamphetamine is better than food, better than sex, music, better than anything else the brain has seen.
    “But ultimately, you pay the price.”

    This guy is right. If I wanted a ‘point’, and had $100 cash, I could have one in under an hour. But I know myself too well, to risk even having a ‘taste’ of it.
    It’s like any other recreational drug, I know a couple of people who ‘indulge’ on weekends, and limit it to that. I also know a guy who got ‘caught up in it’, and almost lost everything. It was him who warned me to never touch the stuff. A former workmate of mine learned how to ‘cook’ it, thanks to the internet, then disappeared off the face of the earth…

    • High Flying Duck

       /  February 19, 2017

      A problem that’s only going to get worse as technology enables bigger highs at lower cost and with easier preparation.
      Not sure how this can be stopped, but a huge effort must be made as you are right – it destroys lives before people realise it.

      • patupaiarehe

         /  February 19, 2017

        ‘Cooking’ is ridiculously easy, HFD. Why do you think that that you can’t buy pseudoephidrine from the chemist anymore? I know how it’s done, which is another reason that I’ll never try it. The chemicals involved, aren’t exactly conducive to good health 😉

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 19, 2017

          After having a couple of bad reactions to prescription drugs-prescribed for me-and seeing a heroin addict when I was in my teens, not to mention all the druggies who hung around the underground and did not look like people whom one wished to emulate, there is no way that I would use hard drugs. I did smoke dope as an undergraduate, though.

          One bad reaction to prescription painkillers caused hallucinations that were like the kind of bad dream that one knows with one part of one’s mind is a dream but can’t wake up from.

          Remember the urban myth about drug pushers injecting unsuspecting people in cinemas, turning them into instant addicts and lucrative customers ? I believed this as a child and didn’t know that drugs are intravenously injected, which would be a LITTLE difficult to do without the person noticing…

          • Nelly Smickers

             /  February 19, 2017

            They do say there are *long term* effects you know, Kitzy ❓

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 19, 2017

              ‘They’ say a lot of things, most of which are nonsense.

              ‘They say….what say they ? Let them say…’

              One pain relief tablet is hardly likely to have longterm effects X years later. It wasn’t a massive dose of heroin or cocaine, it was a single painkiller to which I had an allergic reaction-end of story. I am also allergic to penicillin and had a reaction to it-again, it is hardly likely that it would have had long term effects that I would somehow have failed to notice.

        • patupaiarehe

           /  February 20, 2017


          Goodnight all…

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 19, 2017

      Being a mathematician, patu, as well as an ex chemist, I prefer the option of having sex three times to generate my dopamine rather than the chemical once.

  2. Gezza

     /  February 19, 2017

    And on a lighter note, there was I out by the fence communing with ducks around 6 pm last evening, while the LF was cooking dinner as atonement for dropping my jar of cornflour, smashing it into a range of interesting shapes and getting cornflour into every part of the pantry, when I heard the most amazingly hauntingly beautiful sounds of an orchestra-quality alto recorder playing some 14th Century French Court dance piece.

    I like all kinds of music, and man this lady can play a recorder with such incredible subtlety of feeling. I did the dishes by myself & told her to just keep playing whatever music she brought with her.

    Plus she plays bass ! 👍

    My refusal to let her do any washing & hang it out this morning before she departed paid off because we’ve had a rare beaut day in North Welly so far.

  3. patupaiarehe

     /  February 19, 2017

    Here’s one for you G, with your ‘friend’ in mind… 😉

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 19, 2017

    Exhausting day. Walked dogs, did laundry for guest house and set up the beds. Hot as heck with humidity. Drove to Auckland. Finally got feet up for an hour before dinner with family. Auckland tui still needs singing lessons.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 19, 2017

      It’s been sticky heat here, too. I bought my new mower-what a pathetic, boring way to spend money, and the sweat was dripping off me as I put it together. My hands kept slipping…and, needless to say, the illus are so small that they are all but useless and we are not told what the tiny ?s are for. Even Masport does this !

  5. Nelly Smickers

     /  February 19, 2017

    @6.43pm

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 19, 2017

      I am not going to waste time trying to interpret that.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 20, 2017

          it’s bright sun today, mostly-there were a few spits.

          Hamilton (and I suspect the Waikato) had about 3 1/2 times as much rain in a few days as it usually has for the whole of February.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 20, 2017

          Does your child paint ? Lizards are not hard to paint, especially a birdseye view. I have been making little paintings with the leftover paints in test pots, on the pieces of fence slat leftover when the slats have been cut down to be used for something else. Is that green or what ? 😀 Mine have brown or green bodies and coloured spots-and claws 😀 Fine lines are done with toothpicks (one can’t do anything too fine with that sort of paint, even with artists’ brushes) I did one on a rock. It’s real fun, and even a small child could probably produce something quite decorative 🙂

          The toothpicks make a nice texture. I snip the ends off for the spots, and dip them into the paint upright.

  6. Kitty Catkin

     /  February 19, 2017

    I don’t know how long 3 News devoted to a dull and soppy ‘news story’ about an American girl selling biscuits and making derogatory remarks about them, but it was a long time-several minutes. Why would they expect us to find that interesting ? There are surely more fascinating things going on in the world than that.

  7. patupaiarehe

     /  February 20, 2017

    Call me crazy, but doesn’t the kid in this video look a lot like Max Key?

  8. patupaiarehe

     /  February 20, 2017

    I should probably be asleep by now, but when I hear a performance like this, I feel the need to stay awake…