US discussion – Tuesday

If there’s news or issues from the USA worth discussing today you can do it here.

49 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  February 21, 2017

    The DONALD J TRUMPster’s best tweets so far today
    ……
    Give the public a break – The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!

    Are they? Who? Ed.
    ……

    The tweets in reply to this one are currently priceless. Ed.
    ……
    I might just say here – the best interview segment I have seen from El Trumpo so far was when Bill O’Reilly asked him why he respected Putin, ‘because Putin’s a killer?’, and The Donald looked him in the eyes and said “Well, you think our country’s so innocent?” O’Reilly getting that ever-present smug, sanctimoniously Conservative smirk wiped off his gobsmacked face was a joy to behold! [Ed.]
    ……
    More tweets may be found here, when he gets some spare time:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
    ……
    Tue 21 Feb 2017. 0600 hours

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  February 21, 2017

      Oh my Giddy-Aunt, Geez ❗ Thanks sooo much for posting XD

      My favest reply is where this *tweeter* has included a business card and information on one of Trumpy’s friends & advisors……

      (PS: Is it a ‘points day’ ? )

      • Anonymous Coward

         /  February 21, 2017

        “The Russian-born Sater served a year in prison for stabbing a man in the face with a margarita glass during a bar fight, pleaded guilty to racketeering as part of a mafia-driven “pump-and-dump” stock fraud and then escaped jail time by becoming a highly valued government informant”.
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2016/10/03/donald-trump-and-the-felon-inside-his-business-dealings-with-a-mob-connected-hustler/

        • Nelly Smickers

           /  February 21, 2017

          WOW – great article AC ❗

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  February 21, 2017

            Yes. When there is no mud to throw at Trumpy today, go back 25 years and find someone he knew back then and throw mud at them.

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  February 21, 2017

              With Trumpy there will never be a “no mud” day.

            • artcroft

               /  February 21, 2017

              Same rules applied to Clinton. Little Rock was away back when? Yet there wasn’t a republican who couldn’t give you chapter and verse on it 25 years later.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 21, 2017

              I agree that is equally ridiculous, art. Both are just pumping crap into the indoctrinated.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  February 21, 2017

              Who are you to call us the indoctrinated?

      • Gezza

         /  February 21, 2017

        @ Nelly
        “(PS: Is it a ‘points day’ ? )”

        These are no longer announced until after scoring has been completed. I prefer to pick days when Foot On Accelerator Man is not hogging the boards with one-liners.

  2. Anonymous Coward

     /  February 21, 2017

    Another leaked Tape. President Elect ivites the boys at the golf club to hang out while he chooses and interviews his staff choices.
    “If you come tomorrow you’ll be all over television … We’re doing a lot of interviews tomorrow, generals, dictators, we’ll have everything,” he said.

    “For his critics, it’s yet another example of his lax approach to key matters of state and blurred lines between his government role and private company. His supporters will see it as typical of his warm and common touch that couldn’t be further from the Washington norms.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11804486

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 21, 2017

    What? No Fake News today?

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 21, 2017
    • Anonymous Coward

       /  February 21, 2017

    • Anonymous Coward

       /  February 21, 2017

      How many Civil Wars are there in the US Al? Previously you’ve claimed it’s between the left and the right, or between government and media, and now it’s between two 0.5%’s of the 1%?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 21, 2017

        Don’t confuse the leaders with the troops, AC.

        • Anonymous Coward

           /  February 21, 2017

          I’m putting that picture of your GI Joe fighting undies up every time you say Civil War until such time as you stop saying it or it comes to pass.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  February 21, 2017

            Of course it has come to pass. It’s just being fought non-violently for the most part at present. But make no mistake, there is a lot of firepower behind the posturing. And a lot of lives and careers at stake.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  February 21, 2017

              It’s a construct of your mind at the moment. You’re the only one using the term.

            • Gezza

               /  February 21, 2017

              It’s only civil unrest at the moment, Al.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 21, 2017

              No, it isn’t. Unrest is uni-directional. This war is being conducted in both directions and will continue until one side is defeated.

            • Gezza

               /  February 21, 2017

              Your TBS has completely distorted your judgement, Al. Too much exposure to Trumpy’s exaggerations & hyperbole has affected your mind to the point where you think these sorts of stretches are reality.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war

  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 21, 2017

    Trump appoints a new security advisor and a chief of staff for the NSC:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-names-lt-gen-hr-mcmaster-national-security/story?id=45617774

    • Gezza

       /  February 21, 2017

      Interesting choice.


      In April 2014, McMaster made Time’s list of the 100 most influential people in the world. He was hailed as “the architect of the future U.S. Army” in the accompanying piece written by retired Lt. Gen. Dave Barno, who commanded U.S. and allied forces in Afghanistan from 2003 to 2005. “Major General Herbert Raymond McMaster might be the 21st century Army’s pre-eminent warrior-thinker,” Barno wrote, commenting on McMaster’s “impressive command and unconventional exploits in the second Iraq war.”

      Barno also stated, “Recently tapped for his third star, H.R. is also the rarest of soldiers—one who has repeatedly bucked the system and survived to join its senior ranks.” Retired Army Gen. Jack Keane, a former Army vice chief, commented “It is heartening to see the Army reward such an extraordinary general officer who is a thought leader and innovator while also demonstrating sheer brilliance as a wartime brigade commander.”

      In July 2014 McMaster was promoted to Lieutenant General and began his duties at the Army Capabilities Integration Center.

      National Security Advisor
      On February 20, 2017, U.S. President Donald Trump named McMaster to serve as his National Security Advisor following the forced resignation of Michael T. Flynn on February 13. McMaster “intends to remain on active duty while he serves as national security adviser.”

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._McMaster

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  February 21, 2017

    Shock, horror! Trump is doing exactly what he promised and will continue to do so. Obama lost far more appointees in his first few months than Trump. Fake News rules ok:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/02/20/trump-agenda-promises-polls-public-james-robbins-column/98135230/

    • High Flying Duck

       /  February 21, 2017

      Excellent article Al. The anti’s are mistaking media hissy-fits with real issues despite the fact the Trump ‘crises’ are simply the same ol’ same ol’ when it comes to a change in administration:

      “The Trump White House has faced its share of challenges in getting things up and running, such as the departure of national security adviser Michael Flynn and the Democratic-led slow-rolling of the confirmation process. But the press is making much ado about what is just the rough and tumble of putting a new administration in place.”

  7. lurcher1948

     /  February 21, 2017

    There have been many posts on Kiwi blog on how good uber is so when i read this blog i thought what a hell hole that place would be to work for.I have a feeling this will not appear as a subject on kiwiblog…just saying
    https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  February 21, 2017

      WOW – thanks for posting lurcher1948 ❗

      Funnily enuff, Wayne’s mum was contemplating becoming an *Uber* driver until he told her you needed a car.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 21, 2017

        Poor thing, she must be going senile. What was she going to do-take them home on a bus ?

      • Nelly Smickers

         /  February 21, 2017

        God – you’re right there Kitzy ❗

        Even *Wayne* sez she’s half-a-bubble off plumb.

  8. lurcher1948

     /  February 21, 2017

    Im following this on facebook,This bar and grill sacked12 kitchen staff as they went on the
    #Day Withoutimmigrants march without telling him.The staff were legal Mexicans.There are 1000s of comments if you want to follow it.
    https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/idontcarebarandgrill?source=feed_text&story_id=10155017783799089

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 21, 2017

      Can’t be much of a relationship to do that without telling your boss and can’t be a surprise that it was terminal. I presume they already had a Plan B.

    • PDB

       /  February 21, 2017

      One boat company sacked 30 staff I read? The march was something whipped up on social media I believe? Punishing a business, not because of something they have done, in order to protest Trump? I can see why some businesses would sack their workers, especially when they don’t even have the curtesy to tell the owner they wouldn’t be turning up in mass.

      • lurcher1948

         /  February 21, 2017

        There was a brick laying company who sacked the foreman and bricklayers.Seems like a white republican supporter trying to show he’s the boss,nevermind the flame war.There’s no give or take in America you get sacked for any reason,no matter how long you have worked for them

        • PDB

           /  February 21, 2017

          Looks like the bar & grill workers were doing all the ‘taking’ and not much ‘giving’ in not telling their employer they were all off to do a social media organized protest that punished their employer for no reason.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 21, 2017

        In mass ? You must mean en masse, a very different thing.

        It’s a little inconsistent that Trump has foreign workers working for him, at not very generous rates of pay.

        • PDB

           /  February 21, 2017

          “In mass ? You must mean en masse, a very different thing.”

          Indeed Kitty, no edit function I’m afraid. I’m now at mass praying for my sins……

  9. lurcher1948

     /  February 21, 2017
    • Gezza

       /  February 21, 2017

      Damn. Missed it. I don’t think you’ve quite got the hang of it’s Pete’s blog yet Lurch 😳

  10. lurcher1948

     /  February 21, 2017

    Here is some Jethro Tull [cut the complaining, and this isn’t the right thread for this sort of thing. PG]