Rioting in Sweden

There are reports of rioting in Sweden in an immigrant area in Stockholm.

The Telegraph: Swedish police investigate riot in predominantly immigrant Stockholm suburb

Swedish police on Tuesday were investigating a riot that broke out overnight in a predominantly immigrant suburb in Stockholm after officers arrested a suspect on drug charges.

The clashes started late Monday when a police car arrested a suspect and people started throwing stones at them in Rinkeby, north of Stockholm. Unidentified people, including some wearing masks, also set cars on fire and looted shops.

One officer was slightly injured when a rock hit his arm and one person was arrested for throwing rocks, police spokesman Lars Bystrom said Tuesday.

Police were investigating three cases of violent rioting, assaulting a police officer, two assaults, vandalism and aggravated thefts, he said.

“This kind of situation doesn’t happen that often but it is always regrettable when it happens,” Bystrom said.

He declined to give further details, saying the episode would be investigated.

No indication of who started the rioting and who became involved, nor of their ethnicity.

The incident comes after US president Donald Trump was widely ridiculed for comments suggesting some kind of attack had occurred in Sweden on Saturday night.

It may be that this sort of thing is common in Sweden.

If not, this is suspiciously coincidental to the Trump claims.  Is this some opportunist stirring?

More details and facts are needed before jumping to conclusions.

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  1. David

     /  22nd February 2017

    The Swedish thing has been quietly covered for the last couple of years and while not a huge issue they have got some pretty ugly problems where they have corralled their migrants. They have re instated a border, granting only temporary visas, declining a colossal percentage of refugee applications in comparison to previous years so recognize themselves they probably got it wrong.
    Sweden starts from a place where there was very little sexual crimes so the % increase looks quite a leap.

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  2. Missy

     /  22nd February 2017

    Well done Pete to trying to link this to Trump. Who would have been stirring here? The police? The migrants? And if the migrants why? Surely it would just confirm Rrump’s view, so who has anything to gain by instigating these riots to stir?

    Did you read the article? This stems from a drugs arrest.

    You say you don’t know if this is common in Sweden, what do you mean by common? It doesn’t happen every week, but anti social behaviour like rioting is not new, and rioting in immigrant areas is not New either. This has been happening off and on (once or twice a year) for years.

    This is nothing to do with Trump, timing is just coincidental, but no doubt it won’t stop the liberal left and anti Trump brigade trying to link it all.

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    • I and media have linked the timing to Trump’s very recent comments. It is an important link as it will at least add weight to what trump said, even though he was a couple of days early with his implications.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  22nd February 2017

        So the US planted an instigator in a Swedish suburb to give the President the aura of being correct? The instigator was damn lucky he didn’t fall off the edge of the flat earth on his way there don’t you think?

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      • PDB

         /  22nd February 2017

        The biggest surprise is that many people obviously didn’t realise how bad the immigrant problem in Sweden is – it has been getting increasingly worse for years. Anytime the cops have gone into these immigrant-heavy areas there has been unrest. Hence why the police in general stay away from these areas as they do not have the resources or political will to go and sort out the crime problem there.

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      • Trump has been around on the world stage for months as any sort of public commentator. He is the RESULT of a particular meinung , rather than arbiter or authority.

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    • Noel

       /  22nd February 2017

      “Police were investigating three cases of violent rioting, assaulting a police officer, ”

      Yup major riot 15 involved in a drug deal gone wrong with three charged with violent rioting.
      Gezz Missy probably happens daily in the US.

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      • Missy

         /  22nd February 2017

        Probably does happen daily in the US. And probably happens a little more often in Sweden but because of Trump is being reported more widely.

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    • Missy

       /  22nd February 2017

      Confirms it was related to criminal behaviour and nothing to do with Trump.

      It appears this area could be prone to anti social and anti police behaviour.

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      • NOEL

         /  22nd February 2017

        Ok if I accept that this particular incident had nothing to do with Trump will you accept that Trump made a comment on an inflammatory Fox doco without fact checking?
        This from the man with his finger on the atomic thingy.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  22nd February 2017

          Hardly even a doco, really, it seemed to me-more an opinion story. It IS a worry that Trump gets his info from the news and not their equivalent of Foreign Affairs.

          15 people ? Ooh, major riot.

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        • Missy

           /  22nd February 2017

          Can you show where I haven’t accepted Trump made inflammatory comments based on something he saw on Fox? Since I haven’t I think you asking me to accept it is implying something that is false.

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  3. Missy

     /  22nd February 2017

    Areas with high migrant populations are prone to violent riots in Europe. In recent years from my memory France, Belgium, Germany, & Sweden have had these problems in areas with a predominantly immigrant population – I should clarify, a predominantly immigrant population from North Africa. Areas with migrants from predominantly western Christian countries don’t tend to have these issues.

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    • But it must be unusual for drug arrests to start riots. Why this time?

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      • Missy

         /  22nd February 2017

        Seeing police will start a riot in these areas Pete. One in France started because a guy was pulled over on a traffic offence. I think you are trying to see a connection that isn’t there.

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      • Missy

         /  22nd February 2017

        Pete did you ever think it isn’t the riot that is unusual but the reporting of it as desperate journalists try to find an anti Trump angle?

        If Trump came out and made a comment about stabbing sin London then it was reported there wouldn’t be a connection to Trump with the crime, just the reporting.

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        • Missy

           /  22nd February 2017

          again, sorry for my terrible spelling and grammar – I was on my phone which makes it harder to type and proof read – especially when being jostled.

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    • Nelly Smickers

       /  22nd February 2017

      One of Chuck’s *very best friends* in LA (another ‘Missy’) retweeted this to me – and I think she sums the situation up beautifully…….exactly as you always do yourself ‘UK Missy’ XD

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  4. Missy

     /  22nd February 2017

    I apologise for spelling errors, am on my phone on the train home, so typing isn’t that great.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  22nd February 2017

      Why do it there, then ? Nothing that you say is that urgent. We didn’t really need to hear that you are on the train, using a phone to tell us that you are on the train, using a phone.

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      • Gezza

         /  22nd February 2017

        😡❗️

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      • Missy

         /  22nd February 2017

        Wow, nasty kitty. i was explaining why I had spelling errors. As to why I do it in the train, what else will I do for an hour or more on my commute? It is being efficient with my time so I can do other stuff when I get home. intetesting though that you don’t seem to think what I say is urgent, and you don’t need to hear about it, but do feel the need to comment on it. If you aren’t interested in what I say Kitty you have the option to ignore it.

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  5. Sweden’s migration, despite polite efforts to mitigate it, is a mess. Their best intentions are simply not extensive or intensive enough, when you have the scale of economic migration, and such a high level of unaccompanied male, under-educated entrants. As to the latter, Sweden in it’s progressive and caring way doesn’t age test those claiming to be children, and the social implications of that have been substantial.

    The Swedish government are in denial, and they do this because anything else is inhospitable, alarming and unpolite.

    “The problems relating to immigration have been building up for years, but the country’s left and right were united in maintaining employment regulations and rent controls that kept immigrants unemployed in ghetto-like suburbs. As a result, we lost valuable time. Three years ago, there were riots in socially deprived areas of Stockholm, and it’s only got worse since then. A parallel society is emerging where the state’s monopoly on law and order is being challenged. ‘Today, the gang environment is — well, I don’t want to exactly call it the Wild West, but something in that direction,’ says Amir Rostami, an authority on Swedish organised crime who teaches at Stockholm University.

    Integrating adults into Swedish society has been tricky enough, but a much more difficult problem is how to deal with all the unaccompanied children. During the Iraq war, about 400 children arrived without their parents each year — and all of them needed a place to live, social support and proper schooling. In 2014, when the number of children arriving annually hit 7,000, there were serious questions about how Sweden would cope. Last year, just over 35,000 unaccompanied children registered with the authorities.

    The children are every age and arrive from all kinds of countries. Afghans and Somalis are currently the two biggest groups. Then come Syrians, Ethiopians, Iraqis, Moroccans and Eritreans. Some are fleeing war; many are fleeing poverty and misery. Strikingly, boys outnumber girls by about five to one. And it’s far from clear how many may in fact be adults — unlike other countries, Sweden doesn’t test for age. Whatever age the applicant gives is accepted, unless it’s ‘obviously’ untrue. The definition of ‘obvious’ is unclear. During one recent interview on Swedish radio, several asylum-seekers confessed to lying about their age to improve their chances of settlement. One, called Dawood, put it bluntly: ‘If I say I’m grown-up, they’ll deport me.’

    The cost of accommodating our child refugees is enormous: £160 per child per day. That could be money well spent, if it worked. There are serious concerns, though, about children falling victim to predatory adults who have lied about their age. Earlier this year, a boy of 12 was raped in refugee accommodation by another refugee who claimed to be 15. A dental X-ray suggested the attacker was closer to 19. Later that month, a 22-year-old Swede (herself the daughter of immigrants) was stabbed to death by one of the refugees she was caring for — another adult claiming to be 15.”

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/09/how-sweden-became-an-example-of-how-not-to-handle-immigration/

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  22nd February 2017

      Only immigrants are predators, of course, that’s well known,We never have Kiwi-born predators.

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      • PDB

         /  22nd February 2017

        Maybe immigrants should be worried about bringing their kids up here with our high child abuse rates…..

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        • “our high child abuse rates …” Gross calumny! Compared with what and where? A quick check shows no global comparison indices which would, after all, be difficult to compare given concerns with child slavery, labour and marriage which are virtually non-existent here.

          Given Muslim’s propensity for mutilating their children, killing daughters who step out of line, and marrying off their pre-pubertal daughters, you may wish to reconsider.

          While the comparison is only partial, Save the Childrens’ 2016 ‘Every Last Girl’ document shows NZ at 16th position out of 144. Sure it could be better, but it’s WAY out in front of Muslim-exporting nations.

          Such sarcastic and off-hand comments illustrate the sort of ignorant contempt some people have of their nation’s values, not having any idea of global context.

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      • Can’t think of a retort to such a generalisation

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      • Missy

         /  22nd February 2017

        And of course no immigrant commits crimes. The child sexual grooming in the UK wasn’t really run by immigrants, the mass sexual assaults in Germany, Austria, and Sweden weren’t immigrants either, the terrorist attacks in France and Belgium weren’t really immigrants either were they Kitty?

        It is precisely that attitude of putting your head in the sand and ignoring the problems that allows the issues to continue and gives the environment for far right nationalists to gain popularity. No-one has said local populations do not have people who commit these types of crimes, but it also has to be acknowledged that in some areas in Europe violent crimes are on the increase because of predominantly North African and Middle Eastern illegal migrants. Grow up and look at what is happening outside your perfect utopia.

        High levels of immigration from areas of the world that are so fundamentally different in culture to the countries they migrate to create enclaves of these cultures and cause problems, partly because they will not try to integrate into the society they have chosen to move to, partly because they come as economic migrants but find it isn’t all milk and honey and they end up unemployed with nothing else to do but turn to crime, and partly because their cultural norms are so different to those of the people they are living amongst.

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  6. PDB

     /  22nd February 2017

    If the Swedish police actually did their job and entered the many immigrant (so called) ‘no-go’ zones on a more regular basis to tackle crime there this would be a daily occurrence.

    Suggesting Trump’s comments are somehow to blame is rubbish, the same suburb had riots in 2010 and 2013 so not a one-off.

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  7. PDB

     /  22nd February 2017

    A typical month in Sweden………(with links but I can’t speak the language so take at face value).

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8619/sweden-asylum-seekers-violence

    Riot in Bergsjön Sept 2016 (90% immigrant area): http://www.thelocal.se/20160923/four-arrested-over-gothenburg-stone-throwing-riots

    Riot in Malmö Sept 2016: “It comes as police across the Scandinavian country pleaded for the government to grant them more resources as the force is struggling to cope with crime in “no-go” areas.”

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/712090/Sweden-Malmo-flames-vengeful-thugs-set-cars-alight

    Nothing to see here……

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  8. Sweden has gone from perhaps the world’s most integrated of societies to the most disintegrated. This is because it has appeased its Muslim immigrants more than any other European country.

    It is what is in store for New Zealand once its Muslim population reaches Sweden’s 5% mark, around the third quarter of this century. But who cares?

    GatestoneInstitute.Org carries monthly updates on the situation there, and it’s grim. Search for Sweden.

    Here’s a 2014 article about Islam’s cultural improvements to Scandinavia: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/29/bethany-blankley-christianity-exits-europe-crimina/

    The Norwegian journalist Fjordman wrote about Sweden back in 2007, “Jihad and the Collapse of the Swedish Model: https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2065

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    • PDB

       /  22nd February 2017

      Kit: “It is what is in store for New Zealand once its Muslim population reaches Sweden’s 5% mark, around the third quarter of this century. But who cares?”

      You are comparing apples with oranges – heavy vetting with little vetting, families in NZ against predominantly single young males gaining entry in Sweden, unrest throughout Europe with very little unrest in NZL.

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      • Not so. This is typical of NZ exceptionalism, that we are somehow inured by our moral superiority and the blandishments of the media’s representations of Islam.

        You forget that Islam is an essentialist religion, and regardless of what ‘moderate’ Muslims say, the conservative core of Islam never lets go of the agenda. Taking Islam’s historical model – a necessity to understand what is going on – any country with between 1% and 4% are in the ‘Mecca’ mode with Muslims preaching tolerance, peace, cooperation, passive opinions, playing victims of ‘Islamophobia’, and an apparent assimilation, similar to what Mohammad did in his time there because his new religion couldn’t gain traction. This is New Zealand at present.

        His shift to Medina brought about an aggressive and tyrannical change enabling him to conquer Mecca. Those Muslims who feel compelled to bring the West into submission to the will of Allah follow this model, biding their time, increasing the population, ensuring conservative religious education, until its quorum-sensing trigger – between 5% and 10% – operates to bring about major changes in society to accommodate Islam’s cultural environment. Grievances come to the fore, causing acts of major violence. Dominance crime – rape, homosexual attacks, riots, no-go zones, police and emergency services intimidation – become the norm. This is Europe at present.

        It’s OK, though. Once Muslims achieve over 50% of the population things will quieten down. There’ll be sporadic attacks on Jews, atheists and Christians, but they will die away (not the attacks, I mean the Jews, atheists and Christians.) This is the Middle East and South-East Asia’s Muslims states at present.

        Judging by Muslims’ population growth in NZ, the 5% mark will be reached between 2030 and 2077, favouring later years due a decline in Muslim growth rates more recently. This will be too late for most of us to appreciate that what I say is inevitable. But changes occurring in Europe is predestined for the whole world as part of Islam’s prophetic tradition.

        The West will become progressively more Islamic until it gains the strength to resist it. This requires extremely robust antagonism, the like of which we haven’t seen yet, involving civil war and mass expulsions. But Trump’s attitude regarding Islam, which is not dissimilar to that seen in Eastern Europe and Israel, is at least a start in regaining the West’s strength against Islam’s barbarism that it had in the Middle Ages, when we could rely on the likes of Martel, Scanderbeg and Sobieski.

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      • NOEL

         /  22nd February 2017

        yeah and how long is going to be before his 5 percent threshold is reached?

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    • NOEL

       /  22nd February 2017

      Currently less than 1 percent of New Zealand population.

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      • Noel, you should check your figures before you post because it may damage your credibility.

        The 2013 census showed the Muslim population, 46,149, at 1.09% of NZ’s population of 4.242 million. The growth in the Muslim population between the 2006 and 2013 censuses was 3.5% per annum. (NZ’s total growth was 0.7% per annum.) Muslim growth, census by census, has declined from 19.1% pa 1986-1991 to 3.5% pa 2006-2013. Taking this more recent growth rate (it’s still almost five times non-Muslim population growth rate) the present proportion of Muslims in NZ is 1.2%, 54,940. This is the most accurate, and lowest, figure obtainable for NZ’s Muslim population based on prior trends.

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        • NOEL

           /  22nd February 2017

          I aint going to quibble over a few percentage points.
          Just as well we have a 2.5 fertility rate.

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        • So when will they reach 50%?

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          • Relax, Pete, no need to get the washing in. Rough check not until 2193, when NZ’s population reaches almost 50 million, using the 3.5% figure. NZ’s long-term (139 years) Muslim growth rate of 5.9% pa brings it down to 2109. Were rates to equal the 1986-2013 rate of 11.3% pa, it would be 2059, and were it to match the peak growth period 1986-1991, 19.1%, it would be around 2040. Pure conjecture and based on a non-Muslim growth rate of 1% pa and a lot of other unknowns.

            But if people agree with traveller’s comment about ‘who cares’, “I do – very much”, the time to get worried is right now.

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            • “a lot of other unknowns” is the most pertinent part of your comment.

              You could make similar arguments about growth rates of other minorities.

              Immigration has been a fact of life in New Zealand for two hundred years, making massive changes. There has been concern expressed about various minorities throughout that period. But in the main we have relatively low level problems with immigration, and there is no sign of that changing markedly.

              Some ostracise people with certain sounding surnames, others ostracise people who practice certain religions (nothing new in that), but we have far greater problems than diversity through immigration.

            • “You could make similar arguments about growth rates of other minorities.”

              Now you’re off the rails.

              No other minority has as its avowed aim bringing the world into line with its own religious dominance. No other minority seeks to displace democracy with theocracy. No other minority mandates death for leaving it. No other minority anywhere in the world causes so much strife. No other minority has a moral code totally incompatible with the West’s. No other minority manages the sort of cognitive capture that causes the culpable blindness affecting the media. No other minority manages to sow confusion and deception about its history, its beliefs and its goals, while not-so-discreetly bringing about its own success. No other minority manages to create distrust in every country it invades. No other minority changes forever the way we fly, or requires a total review of national security, or to build walls and fences to protect inhabitants, or has to have deradicalisation programs, or seeks to control food and alcohol production, or seeks to change marital standards, or impose its own modesty standards . . . And much, much, much more.

              Every facet of life is being eroded by Islam, but at such a glacial pace that a lot of people are simply unaware. It takes certain observational capabilities to realise what’s going on. Something a journalist should be ashamed of not possessing.

          • patupaiarehe

             /  22nd February 2017

            This ‘KitSlater’ character interests me Pete. ‘He’ only seems to ‘pop up’, when something to do with Islam is posted, then spends hours trying to convince us about how educated he is on the subject, but has nothing to contribute to any other thread…

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            • Quite right, patupaiarehe, Islam is perhaps the only subject where I consider my decades of observations worth passing on. My opinions on most other subjects raised in YourNZ add nothing to the debates so it seems pointless to add to the noise. I have a wide range of other interests, but they seem never to arise on this site. I’ll be sure to let you know if they do, but only if my observations or opinions actually add something to it.

              But the fog of war affects the West so much so that I feel compelled, not to convince anyone about my education such as it is, but to expose the flaws in reasoning and understanding about Islam and the threat it presents to Western civilisation. We have entered an era of epochal transition, from the Greco-Roman Judeo-Christian to the Islamic. We are observing its beginnings and the span of its transition will be measured in centuries. For Muslims, as for Islam itself, it will be a colossal victory, the greatest possible. For the West, the acme of civilisational values, it will mean the loss of everything we hold most dear, everything we have fought for, of our rationality, and of our freedom to think independently.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd February 2017

              Your comment reads like some of the spam I get from potential russian brides, except your english is better. (To be fair, their photos are better)

            • patupaiarehe

               /  23rd February 2017

              Decades of observing your own bellybutton, & frequenting your masterbatorium??? If you want to act like someone more qualified to give anything other than your own personal opinion on here, feel free to follow the lead of Col Marsh, Alan, or Pete. Until then, I’m going to make a point of telling you that you are full of shit. Simply because you are, IMHO. Kit Slater, no relation to Cam… Hmmmm…

            • patupaiarehe
              “Decades of observing your own bellybutton, & frequenting your masterbatorium??? ………. Until then, I’m going to make a point of telling you that you are full of shit. Simply because you are, IMHO. Kit Slater, no relation to Cam… Hmmmm…”

              Is it just me who finds this threatening and offensive? Am I over sensitive on this subject or does this ad hominem overstep the boundary?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  23rd February 2017

              How is that threatening, Traveller? The only ‘threat’ I have made is to call out Kit (self appointed Dr of Islamic studies) on his BS. And it isn’t a threat, it’s a promise. There is only so much of his fearmongering dribble I can ignore.

    • “Who cares?”

      I do – very much

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  9. Alan Wilkinson

     /  22nd February 2017

    Of course there is a link to Trump. Simply that the Left’s claim the Fox TV documentary he referenced is discredited is itself immediately discredited. Nothing more nor less than that.

    Any apologies to Trump forthcoming? No, didn’t think so,

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    • PDB

       /  22nd February 2017

      The recent riot is all Trumps fault……….even though Sweden were already debating the problem just before Trump’s speech due to a veteran cop speaking out;

      https://www.rt.com/news/376582-sweden-cop-immigrant-crime/

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      • PDB

         /  22nd February 2017

        For you AC – this is why the documentary cops are changing their tune in your link below;

        “Swedish Police Officer Peter Springare is facing possible criminal charges for “incitement to racial hatred” after posting on Facebook about a majority of the crimes being committed by migrants.”

        “After the Facebook post was made, it quickly went viral, drawing the attention of Swedish law enforcement.
        According to SVT news, Springare is under investigation for the criminal charge of inciting racial hatred. The officer will continue working until it’s determined if his post amounted to a criminal violation.”

        “It is a crime in the Criminal Code and I have decided to initiate a preliminary investigation of the crime,” says Maria Sterup, Chief prosecutor of the Special Prosecution Office in Malmö.”

        https://bluelivesmatter.blue/officer-peter-springare-sweden-migrant-crime/

        The huge problem with immigrant crime in Sweden is a reality.

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  22nd February 2017

      FAKE NEWS Al.
      The documentary is not from Fox Tv, it’s an independent short by Ami Horowitz, (a right wing shit stirrer)

      And the left isn’t discrediting it, the Swedish police were.
      https://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/swedish-cops-say-trumps-wild-claims-about-sweden-based-on-bad-journalism-by-anti-muslim-madman/

      How’s that war going? Seems one of your Generals just shot himself in the face.

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      • PDB

         /  22nd February 2017

        Doesn’t seem to be the view shared in the link I provide just above your post……….nor many of the other links I’ve provided throughout this discussion.

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  22nd February 2017

          I’m specifically addressing the documentary/left thing that Al brought up.
          I’m not trying to deny there is a problem in Sweden.

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          • PDB

             /  22nd February 2017

            Are you saying the left wing didn’t jump on Trumps musings about Sweden by trying to tell us there is no immigrant problems in Sweden??

            I haven’t seen the documentary (who has?) hence I can’t account for its overall accuracy either way.

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            • PDB

               /  22nd February 2017

              Sorry – is that the whole thing embedded above?

            • PDB

               /  22nd February 2017

              Appears to be……thought it was a promo………..pretty crap and does nothing to prove anything either way.

      • PDB

         /  22nd February 2017

        I’d suggest the police now backtracking on being involved in the documentary are doing so to save their jobs.

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  22nd February 2017

          Backtracking 3 days ago.

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          • PDB

             /  22nd February 2017

            See my post above your video. Not good for them in Sweden to be publically supporting the thought that immigration problems exist there, hence they quickly backtracked once the media got hold of them.

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            • Anonymous Coward

               /  22nd February 2017

              The cops involved don’t say there isn’t a problem, they’re saying that the questions they were asked were not the ones the are shown answering in the film. Specifically they were asked about high crime areas, not refugees. So therefore the film is dishonest.

            • PDB

               /  22nd February 2017

              Are the cops not also being dishonest in saying their isn’t an immigrant crime problem in their country?

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  22nd February 2017

              They DIDN’T say that.

            • PDB

               /  22nd February 2017

              Not directly – but they seem to be pretty keen to distance themselves from the notion that immigrant crime is a problem in Sweden don’t you think? From your link: “Anders Göranzon and Jacob Ekström described Horowitz as a “madman” who dishonestly edited their words to make it appear as though Sweden is being overwhelmed by a migrant crime wave.”

              That suggests they think there isn’t a ‘migrant crime wave’ in Sweden? “Madman’ also seems somewhat over the top, as if the notion of immigrant crime being high in Sweden is fantasy-land stuff.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  22nd February 2017

              That’s not a quote from them, if you look again.
              Full interview here.. http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/swedish-police-featured-in-fox-news-segment-filmmaker-is-a-madman/

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  22nd February 2017

        I know it was a discussion of an independent documentary. I was just shortening the reference. Are you trying to tell us that the crime the police were talking about in immigrant areas wasn’t immigrant crime?

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  22nd February 2017

          They say they weren’t asked about immigrants or muslims just high crime areas. I’d be guessing if I said they were one and the same.
          What their issue is is that their answers are shown attached to totally different questions. So essentially they didn’t say what the are shown to say in the film.

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          • PDB

             /  22nd February 2017

            And their proof of editing their questions/ answers is? More of a he said/ she said thing – I don’t see them strongly saying immigrant crime is a problem in the doco anyhow (though in saying that I found it a hard watch and may have missed something) so not sure why the fuss on that particular aspect.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  22nd February 2017

      Any apologies FROM Trump forthcoming, Alan ? Thought not.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  22nd February 2017

        He has apologised a couple of times, Kitty. Why do you think he should apologise this time?

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        • Alan – everything is Trump’s fault in some people’s minds. They’d rather a succession of “puppet to bureaucracy” presidents, who sit powerless before Soros like donors, powerful entrenched State depts, militarists and the king of them all the CIA. As long as he ( it’s always a he) turns up, spins a fair line in oratory, prattles on about BLM and SJW matters they’ll be right. It’s the melting pot age, where atheists, humanists, rationalists, pantheists, Druids, Christians, Muslims and Jews all smile and get along and nobody feels superior, better educated or in any way intimidated by any behaviour.

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  10. I think Kit Slater is the guy with his finger on the button of this situation. It is the big picture that matters, not the daily minutiae. Given the general attitude of the European countries to anyone daring to criticise Islam, it seems highly likely that the police officers concerned have been threatened with the loss of both their jobs and their liberty.

    Readers might find this interesting:

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones

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    • Kit absolutely nails it. The Islamification of Europe and the submission of the native populations to even the medieval mores of Sharia, the incidence of FGM and the ridiculous arranged marriages where women from back home are “fetched”, shackled and ( to my mind ) isolated, all contribute to the utter lack of integration of this population.

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