US discussion – Wednesday

If there’s news or issues from the USA worth discussing today you can do it here.

36 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  February 22, 2017

    EL USA PRESIDENTE, EL TRUMPO’s best tweets so far today
    ……
    Congratulations to our new National Security Advisor, General H.R. McMaster. (Plus Video – posted yesterday)
    ……
    That’s it folks. 😳 All quiet on the Trump Twitter Front. Is Al’s favourite superhero finally learning to just shut up & get on with it? 🤔 [Ed.]
    ……
    More tweets may be found here, when he gets some spare time:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
    ……
    Wed 22 Feb 2017. 0600 hours

    • Gezza

       /  February 22, 2017

      Looks like El Presidente found some spare time. [Ed.] :
      ……
      The so-called angry crowds in home districts of some Republicans are actually, in numerous cases, planned out by liberal activists. Sad!
      ……

  2. Nelly Smickers

     /  February 22, 2017

    *Morning Geez*….you’re always great to wake up to ❗ 😄

    Now then, you will recall yesterday, that following the incredible story from *Forbes Magazine* that me and *AnonC* brought to the Group about Trumpy’s association with his Russian born ‘advisor’ and convicted criminal *Felix Sater*, well here’s the follow-up that alleges the DOTUS and his family’s connections to a number of *Russian Oligarchs*……

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2016/10/03/trump-and-the-oligarch-trio/?nowelcome#7fbad5b51b72

    http://blogs-images.forbes.com/richardbehar/files/2016/10/0923_donald-trump_650x455.jpg?width=960

    • Gezza

       /  February 22, 2017

      Very disapointng. Bn here for hrs bt nuthin. Alanfish r not biting ths morning. 🙁

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  February 22, 2017

        I’ve had a good morning. Was going to shift the possum trap but the electronic counter says it has fired again though no sign of a victim. Decided to rebait it and leave it be.

        Dogs had a good run including chasing a very healthy looking rabbit to the top of the hill and spending a goodly time looking for it. Rabbit had a good start though so it’ll live to run another day.

        • Gezza

           /  February 22, 2017

          It was probably only a matter of time, Al, before possums made the evolutionary leap to intelligence. If there are two of them, are we looking at a Planet Of The Possums scenario, do you think? 😬

          Shame about the rabbit. Right little breeders, they are.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  February 22, 2017

            The hawks like rabbits, G. Much better hunters than small fluffy dogs.

    • Blazer

       /  February 23, 2017

      Colonial Viper nails it….’People need to understand that what we are seeing in the US is a Cold Civil War between the elected Executive and the unelected, invisible Deep State.’

  3. Pete Kane

     /  February 22, 2017

    See G is in his patient mode today. Poor little chappy – no one to play with.

  4. Pete Kane

     /  February 22, 2017

    If you get time G – here’s a take a little different from MSNBC.
    https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/377675-flynn-us-security-politucs/

    • Gezza

       /  February 22, 2017

      Will check it out Pete. Just back up te parenga from Waterfowl Restaurant. Customer feedback is good. Feathered patrons happy with food quality 🍞 & satisfied with very good service ✔️. No mouth ever left unfed 😇. Very gregarious folk. 🐤🐤🐤🐦🐤🐦🐤 ❤️

    • Gezza

       /  February 22, 2017

      Good stuff, PK. The Vladimir certainly knows how best to handle these sorts of situations. Good to get the perspectives of some Russophiles. The blke with the plummy pommy accent who looks like a beatnik made me grin. They make a lot of points Al would be nodding & grinning maniacally at, very pertinent though. Flynn had to go though. too stupid for the job. The new man – the ‘Iconoclast General’ will be a tough nut for the IC white ants to crack. Interesting to hear they agree with me that one of Trump’s probs in dealing with these issues is that he’s too stupid to know when he’s being manipulated. 👍

  5. Pete Kane

     /  February 22, 2017

    What did you have?

    • Gezza

       /  February 22, 2017

      Cream doughnut. Breakfast of Champions. But I always eat after the patrons have been taken care of first. Customer service. All important.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 22, 2017

        It’s been so long since I had one of those, Gezza, that I can now look at them with a total lack of interest.I used to love them. I never thought that I would see them and not have any wish to have one.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 22, 2017

          The Dog’s Diningroom dished up three beef dog treats for breakfast, as well as a small square of the bread intended for the Bird Bistro, Like you, I have mine last-animals first, humans second in the eating order at this house. Dog, birds, human.

        • Gezza

           /  February 22, 2017


          👍 💪

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 22, 2017

            That one doesn’t look very thrilling-it looks mass-produced like one in a supermarket. I saw some in Couplands’ bakery that I could not have resisted a few years ago, but as I was then a size coff-coff I decided that I’d rather be 5-6 sizes smaller and not have things like doughnuts-it’s a fair swap.It’s more than a fair swap !!!

            It was so damned hot that I just had cheese sarnies for dinner, but the Dog had so much that mine was the low calorie version. That animal must have a rubber stomach. A person so greedy would be seriously obese.

            • Pete Kane

               /  February 22, 2017

              That was my thought too, Miss Kitty.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 23, 2017

              The best ones are sold singly and you end up with a whipped cream moustache and icing sugar all down your front.

            • Gezza

               /  February 23, 2017

              Elitist ! 😡

  6. High Flying Duck

     /  February 22, 2017

    Not to do with Trump, but certainly a part of the current US zeitgeist. An ex Stanford Provost has spoken of the echo chamber mentality taking over at US Universities, where differing views and politics are ostracised and protested instead of allowing a free and frank exchange of views and rational debate.

    To be honest it is one of the reasons I like Pete’s blog – a place where echo chambers collide!

    http://news.stanford.edu/2017/02/21/the-threat-from-within/

    The important bit:

    “But I’m actually more worried about the threat from within. Over the years, I have watched a growing intolerance at universities in this country – not intolerance along racial or ethnic or gender lines – there, we have made laudable progress. Rather, a kind of intellectual intolerance, a political one-sidedness, that is the antithesis of what universities should stand for. It manifests itself in many ways: in the intellectual monocultures that have taken over certain disciplines; in the demands to disinvite speakers and outlaw groups whose views we find offensive; in constant calls for the university itself to take political stands. We decry certain news outlets as echo chambers, while we fail to notice the echo chamber we’ve built around ourselves.

    This results in a kind of intellectual blindness that will, in the long run, be more damaging to universities than cuts in federal funding or ill-conceived constraints on immigration. It will be more damaging because we won’t even see it: We will write off those with opposing views as evil or ignorant or stupid, rather than as interlocutors worthy of consideration. We succumb to the all-purpose ad hominem because it is easier and more comforting than rational argument. But when we do, we abandon what is great about this institution we serve.”

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 22, 2017

      The MILO (as he likes to be called) disinvitation was justified. Yes, paedophilia may literally mean loving children, but that’s disingenuousness when he uses it to defend sex between underage boys and adult men and says that people have totally misunderstood its meaning. It has meant what it now means for many years-and I suspect that even in Ancient Greece, it may have had that meaning, given the amount of it that went on then. Saying that the children were the predators was outrageous.Some could well be, but to claim that as a general rule is absurd. He then used the age-old oh, I was misquoted excuse. No, he wasn’t, His apology is too little, too late. There are some things that are inexcusable & he is a tedious, tryhard who tries to be unPC and whines when he’s seen as stupidly offensive,He’s had his 15 minutes. Next !

      • Gezza

         /  February 22, 2017

        Milo’s a wanker. I don’t know why I get downticked for saying this. We’ve all met them. They turn up in all walks of life, & come in a variety of categories, but they’re fairly easy to identify once you’ve listened to them.

        • patupaiarehe

           /  February 22, 2017

          Milo is Milo. A guy who engages his mouth, before his brain, much like another friend of his… 😉

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 23, 2017

            The paedophilia issue is so obviously unacceptable that you’d wonder how anyone can be so stupid as to talk about it in such a way. It’s possibly the one thing that all people ( except those who do it) are revolted by. Consenting adults can do what they like in private, that’s their business and the law should not be able to peer through the keyhole, but leave the children alone. There is no justification for what he said, and anyone who’s been seduced by a paedophile will not be impressed to hear that THEY were the predator.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  February 23, 2017

              Whilst I share your opinion on paedos Kitty, what he said has been taken out of context. He says things to get a reaction, in a similar way to how the PDT uses thumbs.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  February 23, 2017

              Yiannopoulos opened his remarks to reporters by saying two men, including a priest, had touched him inappropriately when he was between the ages of 13 and 16.

              “My experiences as a victim led me to believe I could say anything I wanted to on this subject, no matter how outrageous,” he said. “But I understand that my usual blend of British sarcasm, provocation and gallows humor might have come across as flippancy, a lack of care for other victims or, worse, advocacy. I am horrified by that impression.”

              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11805228

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  February 23, 2017

              His old ‘ha ha I was joking’ excuse, it’s like the boy who cried wolf – no one believes it anymore, it’s one dimensional, and frankly tired.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 23, 2017

          The PDT must resent other wankers being spoken of in a derogatory way.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 24, 2017

            He also went on at length about how adult men/early teenage boys having sexual relationships was a really good thing. There is no way that that was taken out of context. Nor did it seem to be satirical.

            If he said it to get a reaction, he can’t complain when he does get one.

            Yes, AC, the old oh dear, it was a joke defence is whiskery and try-hard.

            I can’t remember how old the boy who cried wolf story is, but it’s hard to imagine a better image than that.

    • Gezza

       /  February 22, 2017

      Good article. I watched Mike Pence’s opening & closing addresses to the Global Security Conference a few days ago. He was the perfect choice for the job. His closing address was shown live on Aljaz. Quite remarkable – ended along lines “We are committed to NATO but we ask that you be as committed too. If you’re not spending 2% of your GDP on Defence, President Trump expects that you will be by the end of 2017. If you don’t have a plan to spend 2% of GDP on Defence by the end of 2017 – get one!”

      I noticed when Trump announced his appointment of McMasters as the new Intelligence Head Honcho, this time what he had to say was all about how good McMasters is – nothing anout how clever Trump is for choosing him. He might be learning. Fingers crossed. ✌️

  7. Pete Kane

     /  February 23, 2017

    Pence – the perfect reason for wishing Trump good health.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 23, 2017

      He could hardly be worse, surely. NOBODY could.

      Either he’ll be sacked or will end up a toothless tiger whose impact on history will be small, except as one of those ‘What were people THINKING ????’ things in the future.