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26 February 2017

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36 Comments

  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  26th February 2017

    By – *Hawkes Bay Today* (NZH)

    ‘MAN GUILTY OF KILLING 2-YEAR-OLD STEPSON TO BE A FATHER’

    GUILTY: Tamehana Huata was found guilty in Napier’s High Court on Friday.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11807095

    “…Huata’s partner Erana Tiopira cried as the verdicts were read out……Ms Tiopira is still in a relationship with Huata and is five months pregnant with his child……..*Defence lawyer Russell Fairbrother* said it had been a privilege to represent a decent young man…….who shows the level of concern that a decent human being would show….”

    Reading *Mr Fairbrothers* statement, I was reminded of the verse from LUKE 23:24 “Father , forgive them, for they do not know what they are saying” 😡

    • Nellie. The sickening thing is that Lawyers often do know what they are lying about. Tell us how to get photos up. What is the html code.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  26th February 2017

        You seem to misunderstand the workings of lawyers. They CANNOT and MUST NOT say that a client is innocent if the client confesses to them. They are trying to prove them not guilty in law, not innocent. A lawyer whose client has told them that they did it MUST insist that the client pleads guilty.or finds another lawyer. No lawyer would be so fond of a client that they would risk being debarred. A lawyer found to have lied will be in very deep trouble indeed.

        It’s actually ‘Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.’ I believe. XXIII:24.

  2. Kevin

     /  26th February 2017

    So the ALCP gets 92 votes out of 12,000 in Mt Albert. Which means that the only people who voted for them were potheads who think drug law reform is just about being able to smoke more weed. Yes, the ALCP is that useless. Actually they’re worse than useless because they perpetuate the myth of the lazy pothead who does nothing but smoke weed day.

    I mean in all the years they’ve been around what have they achieved with regards to drug law reform? Have they manage to change in any way the way the government approaches drug policy? Have they, for even one second, ever managed to have influence the EACD? Good god, they can’t even get the government to see sense on medical marijuana. Medical marijuna FFS – something that most people think shouldn’t be illegal.

    • PDB

       /  26th February 2017

      Good post – Drug reform deserves better representation in future.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  26th February 2017

        Yes, the ALCP does itself few favours with its representatives. A more professional look would do them good-not three piece suits and ties, that would be out of place-but looking as if they took themselves seriously would be good. They do, alas, perpetuate the myth of dope-smokers being grubby, left-behind-from-the-60s hippies. I don’t care about that, but that might not be a good look for presenting themselves on television ! People can look original (and I love the way that so many young people do-they’re like me at that age) but the ALCPs are just scruffy.

        • @kck etc.

          like every other party.. ALCP have to work with, who they’ve got (members) !

          supposedly over 80% of kiwis support med-use & about 60% support ‘other use’ BUT then we see in the election(s) that it just becomes a ‘non-event’ because its not on the agenda of the ‘main-stream parties’ (OR is somewhere near the bottom…)

          As I said on the other post; the ‘real winner’ in Mt Albert: APATHY 😦

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  26th February 2017

            True, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea if the members who were representing the party looked at least clean and neat (this is not a criticism, it’s pragmatism)

            • @kck

              I know a couple of ALCP members (inc. Mr Gray) & whilst he may have long beard.. he is CLEAN & tidy otherwise. SO.. who are you actually talking about ?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  26th February 2017

              I’ve seen one in the past who looked anything but clean and tidy-I can’t remember the name. As I said. I was not being judgemental-I wouldn’t vote for them because I know that they wouldn’t get in and think that it’s better to vote for a sympathetic person who has a chance-but it is a turnoff that needn’t happen.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  26th February 2017

              XD

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  26th February 2017

              😀

  3. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  26th February 2017

    Major overhaul of science and science publishing long overdue.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39054778?SThisFB
    Most scientists can’t replicate their peers’ results.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  26th February 2017

      Sad but true, Maggy. I practised science in a time when the early German chemists’ publications were regarded as the Edmonds Cookbook of chemical synthesis and unquestionably honest, accurate and reproducible.

      Now we have fuzzy disciplines employing poor statistical analyses on highly dubious datasets with selective publication of sensationalist conclusions.

      However, as far as reproducibility is concerned there seems to be no difficulty in climate science. Every publication confidently asserts that its investigation is compatible with human-induced climate change – even though almost all of them bear no evidence whatever supporting human-induction or predictable climate change.

  4. Kitty Catkin

     /  26th February 2017

    Does anyone remember a major earthquake about 18 months ago-not in NZ ? I found an old newspaper and was unimpressed that I had forgotten it, although I remembered when I saw the paper.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  26th February 2017

      He needs to shop around more Lurch. I’d be happy to drive him around all day for $35/hour 😀

      • lurcher1948

         /  26th February 2017

        I would undercut you,Do it for $34 and not drive over 109KM/h

    • I’m thinking Mr Cool might just lose a fair bit of business. He’s clearly got a substance abuse problem, and it may be at the centre of his behaviour. That, or he’s just a complete looks-like-galloper with a w.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  26th February 2017

    Now this gets me REALLY angry,why put your life on the line when you are treated like shite, this hero couldn’t afford life insurance because he is and was a hero.NEW ZEALAND hang your head in shame, and National builds cycleways instead of providing cover for our heros,
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/02/ron-ive-heard-sas-mark-gets-one-right/

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  26th February 2017

    This is a prime example of official statistical utter crap:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/89812989/auckland-policewoman-almost-in-tears-after-pulling-over-car-with-11-unrestrained-passengers

    230 died in car vehicle crashes last year. 32,000 died from other causes. Your chance of dying in a motor vehicle crash in your lifetime is therefore about 1:140 or in a year about 1: 10,000 or on that particular day around 1 chance in 3 million. Of course far less if you don’t drive drunk, like a lunatic or incompetently and carelessly.

    So assuming wearing a seat-belt that day halves your chances who the hell would care let alone burst into tears about it? Only officialdom who have no concept of statistics and only care about reducing the total rather than the absolute real risk to an individual.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  26th February 2017

      Oh Alan! Stop drinking the ‘hatorade’, e hoa 😛
      I think the point is that a normal passenger vehicle is designed to carry 5 people, not 11. Maybe that cop was close to tears because she can remember the last time she had to scape someone off the road, or deliver some bad news to a family.
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10567890

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  26th February 2017

        Why should I care, path. It wasn’t me and anyway was probably driving like an idiot. There are plenty around. People who have no concept of relative risk should not be making rules for others and certain won’t get any credibility from me.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  26th February 2017

          Damn autocorrect! Patu not path. I thought I had managed to kill autocorrect on this FWPh.

          • patupaiarehe

             /  26th February 2017

            Don’t fret the typos Alan, I made a mistake in my comment too. There were 13 people in that vehicle, 11 were unrestrained. The worst I ever did in my youth was 10 people in an HZ station wagon. Mind you, six were wearing seatbelts, & the vehicle was rated to carry a ton…. 😀

  7. patupaiarehe

     /  26th February 2017

    Just trying something….

  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  26th February 2017

    Interesting though a couple of months old. I haven’t seen any previous discussion of copyright fair use rules here:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/87821036/Australian-copyright-blueprint-praised-to-halt-NZ-breaches

  9. This appeared on Youtube, I haven’t seen or heard it before. Jimi at the Royal Albert Hall.

  10. Blazer

     /  26th February 2017

    Marilyn ..not..Monroe…

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