Media watch – Monday

6 March 2017

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  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 6, 2017

    *MUST READ*

    My BFF in the UK, *Katie H*, reflects on life after her brain op to cure epilepsy……

    • Blazer

       /  March 6, 2017

      Katie could do with a gobstopper.

      • Nelly Smickers

         /  March 6, 2017

        *You* got one that would do the job…Blaze ❓

    • Gezza

       /  March 6, 2017

      No. He should be wearing a 9x19mm parabellum in the brain stem.

      • Nelly Smickers

         /  March 6, 2017

        Yep – couldn’t agree with you more there Geez…..and I’d be just the gurl to administer it. They don’t come any lower than this turd.

        My mum reckons the only thing they should put over his head is a rope….but she’s always been a bit *old fashioned*

        • Gezza

           /  March 6, 2017

          I think a rope is cruel, Nelly. It can go wrong. I’m not in favour of torturing anyone to death., by design or accident. Just a simple, quick, clean, impersonal, permanent removal from society of an unredeemable, warped, permanent danger to society. If one shot doesn’t do it, another one administered instantly will.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 6, 2017

      You beat me to it Nelly.

      “I felt belittled, degraded and humiliated,” he said.

      The 12 year old that he sodomised probably had similar feelings. Ain’t karma a bitch Phil 😀

      He said their decision was not proportionate to the risks and akin to using a sledgehammer to crush a nut, which failed to treat him with humanity and dignity.

      Well Phil, if I had my way, your punishment would have involved a sledgehammer, & a ‘nut’ or two. You don’t deserve to be treated with humanity, or dignity, because you are a filthy paedophile POS.
      WTF is this oxygen thief able to do this? And why are we paying for it? What a joke our so called ‘justice’ system is…

      • PDB

         /  March 6, 2017

        He should instead wear stones, lots of them of various sizes thrown at various velocities……

        • patupaiarehe

           /  March 6, 2017

          Sounds fair to me Pants, so long as he’s made to wear a motorcycle helmet, to hide his baldness… 😉

          • PDB

             /  March 6, 2017

            To be fair I’d allow him to wear his wig for protection and to look good………

        • Blazer

           /  March 6, 2017

          are you a closet…..Sharia law fan?

    • MaureenW

       /  March 6, 2017

      Yes, to cover the messy bits after his scalping. Don’t mind if it’s blonde, brunette, long, short or curly.

    • Pickled Possum

       /  March 6, 2017

      Heya Nelly
      Human Rights are Only for Humans
      That SMO is not one.
      He displayed an over load of; conniving malice and murderous intentions.
      He is Bald. So that is how he should represent himself to the court.
      “belittled, degraded and humiliated” yaaa there is justice.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 6, 2017

      Unfortunately sometimes there are miscarriages of justices and so the worst offenders can only be jailed when they deserve worse. Hold your nose and ignore the jerk.

      • MaureenW

         /  March 6, 2017

        There are an awful lot who miss first muster. There are an awful lot of them. Don’t be mean, give than a wig.

      • Gezza

         /  March 6, 2017

        It’s just a question of getting the legislation suitably tightly prescriptive. I’m not in favour of capital punishment for any but a very tiny few.

        • patupaiarehe

           /  March 6, 2017

          I agree G. There would have do be absolutely zero doubt about their guilt. IMHO, appealing a conviction for rape, due to a corpse being incapable of denying consent, meets that threshold. A bullet costs a dollar, but 60m of ‘glad wrap’ costs $3, and it only takes 3m to remove that individual from the gene pool. And handcuffs are re-usable. As is a baseball bat.

          • Gezza

             /  March 6, 2017

            Graeme Burton. William Bell. Tony Robertson. Just off the top of my head. Gone by lunchtime. It wouldn’t give me any pleasure, but I’d do it if it was legally ordered & no one else would step up.

            Would want to see at least 3 psychiatrists reports on people like Paul Dally & Clayton Weatherston. If no genuine remorse, no empathy, no insight into what they’ve done, & high or significant risk of re- offending, happy to reload & save everyone time, money & worry wasted on forever having to watch over broken people who are essentiall cunning dangerous animals. Lost my wussy idealism over the sanctity of all human life some time ago.

            • Gezza

               /  March 6, 2017

              Anyway … break over here, e hoa. Loaded up on 4th dose of panadol, applied me night strength deep heat, got me warm gear on, got the potable halogen lamp set up – crikey it puts out some Infrared & visible spectrum photons: OSH would have a fit if they saw how it’s mounted but, you know, she’ll be right 👍😃. 85% there with the paving.

              Plan is to beat the Rain Man, even if it means cracking on until the wee small hours. Tough as a sewer rat, me. Catch ya tomorrow maybe.

            • Gezza

               /  March 6, 2017

              Whoops – see below re “potable”. Dunno why the FiP just does that sometimes.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 6, 2017

              Well pardon me for being a little blunt, but doesn’t someone who sodomises a 12 year old boy, and then stabs his father to death, meet the criteria for ‘immediate dispatch’? Our taxes are feeding this arsehole, and are also paying for him to have a little moan about having his wig confiscated! FFS! As for the three you mentioned above, allow me to give you a little ‘local knowledge’ on Tony Robertson.
              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=10942169
              That little girl & her brother, never went back to Maungatapu School. After what that family went through, they just wanted to GTF out of Tauranga. If a very ‘on to it’ cop, hadn’t acted on a hunch, they most likely would have found her lifeless, violated body, in a ditch on the side of a rural road. The whole community was fearful, for years afterwards, due to what he did to that little 5 year old. But a judge decided that he “Shouldn’t be sentenced on what might have happened”…
              Several years later, he was released on parole, shortly before he had finished his maximum sentence (because corrections knew that he was dangerous, & it was the only way that they could put conditions on his release). Nek minnit…
              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11492850
              And then this…
              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11619107
              Yet this arsehole still gets 3 meals a day, and is most likely in PC.

            • Gezza

               /  March 7, 2017

              You can be as blunt as you like. It’s no skin off my nose. I’ve already said above I believe Smith is a fitting candidate for execution. I know there are others besides those three plus two I’ve just mentioned, but I’m busy. I haven’t got time to research case histories. It’s the principle that, in my opinion, some types of predatory criminals, especially psychopathic killers, should be executed, for the simple safety & good of society. Especially those who have already shown they are a constant danger to potentially anyone, including children, or to particular individuals, & in some cases even to their jailers & other inmates.

              From comments you’ve made over time we probably agree on some of these people, but we probably differ over the why & how. Pretty sure I’ve seen you advocate at times subjecting these sorts of people to the same or similar torture or degradation that they put their victims through first. That’s revenge. That’s lowering yourself to their level. I don’t agree with that. Besides, there’s mostly no point. Many of these characters may even be impervious to whatever you do to hurt them. They’re totally self-absorbed & seriously psychiatrically abnormal.

              I don’t even see expunging them from existence as ‘justice’ or a ‘fitting punishment’ for their crimes, or a ‘deterrent to others’. Imo, It’s just a perfectly objective, logical, even ethical, solution to a deranged & dangerous human wreckage problem which currently persists until they expire naturally or at the hands of someone else like them.

              There are others who have committed murders or serious crimes who were mentally unwell – or off their faces in the grip of some drug-induced psychosis – at the time, who are treatable, have remorse, have insight, genuinely want & respond to treatment, & are never likely to repeat their crime. I wouldn’t see them as candidates for execution.

              There are I am sure cases where exactly what happened is disputed & time place & circumstance caused someone to do something once that they never intended & have regretted ever since. Same.

              And murder or predatory criminal cases where a guilty finding has been made by a jury but the evidence was circumstantial & not irrefutably conclusive. Again, not, in my view, capital punishment candidates.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 7, 2017

              Good points G, and I find myself completely in agreement with you, except for this..

              Pretty sure I’ve seen you advocate at times subjecting these sorts of people to the same or similar torture or degradation that they put their victims through first. That’s revenge. That’s lowering yourself to their level. I don’t agree with that.

              To lower myself to their level, I would have to do it to an innocent stranger. You call it revenge, I call it justice. Utu was a well established principle amongst the ‘early settlers’, and surely you’ve heard of ‘an eye for an eye’. TBH, I’d be perfectly happy with your quicker, more humane solution, since it achieves the same result.
              Individuals such as Philip J Smith can NEVER be rehabilitated. They are subhuman, so don’t deserve human rights, let alone a day out in court at our expense, to have a trivial little moan about his hurt feelings.

            • Gezza

               /  March 7, 2017

              I am sorry to have to disagree with you, patu. To lower yourself to their level you only have to want to inflict pain & suffering on someone when there is no need to.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 7, 2017

              Don’t be sorry G, it’s your opinion & you’re entitled to it. You know why I feel the way I do.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 6, 2017

        It’s not the legislation that worries me but human nature. Police can be corrupt, incompetent or deceitful. Witnesses can lie or simply convince themselves false is true. Judges and prosecutors and expert witnesses can all make mistakes. Lawyers can be incompetent. Legislation can’t tidy up around all these edges. I don’t support capital punishment in any form other than on the spot retaliation by the victim.

        • Gezza

           /  March 6, 2017

          That’s why the legislation has to be suitably prescriptive. Absolute irrefutable proof of guilt is essential. Until then, if you’re happy to have some of my favoured candidates for the chop come round to your place for a bit of a talking to and a supervised stay of a year or forever, for guidance on how to be a better person, if they ever get released by some stupid blunder or incompetent decision-making at sentencing or parole, you’re welcome to give it a try, Al.

          Gotta go. Manly project to complete.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 7, 2017

            For life, G. Don’t confuse issues.

          • Gezza

             /  March 8, 2017

            Ok, I read that. Life imprisonment – if it genuinely is life imprisonment – for the dangerous psycopaths I’ve described above is a waste of time & money for the unnecessary constant custodial risk & management of keeping caged the human equivalent of a rabid dog.

        • patupaiarehe

           /  March 6, 2017

          @Alan
          When the victim is a 5 year old girl, ‘on the spot retaliation’ isn’t really an option…

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 7, 2017

            Of course. That’s why human justice will always be imperfect. Better some scum is locked up for life than an innocent is wrongly convicted and topped. Plenty have been.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 7, 2017

              As G & I discussed yesterday Alan, the level of proof would have to be very high. But once the threshold is met, there should be no appeals, and it be carried out immediately.
              Tony Robertson is one such individual. He should have been shot after his first conviction. There was absolutely zero possibility of his innocence, given the circumstances of his arrest. The police were already looking for him, after he’d attempted to do it the day before. But instead, some dud judge refused to give him PD, and we all know what happened when he was released…

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 7, 2017

              If the evidence is good enough to kill him it is good enough for PD. That’s what should happen.

  2. Gezza

     /  March 6, 2017

    Bugger. Potable = portable. That thing’s way too hot to be drinkable. 😳

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 6, 2017

      Yes, those halogen bulbs pack a heat pump for sure. Time to go LEDs like car headlights have.

      • Gezza

         /  March 6, 2017

        Probably, but I’ve got this one on hand. Feels like it’s going to chew up a month’s worth of electricity in a couple of hours. 😳