CIA versus Facebook

 

Wikileaks released information today about how the CIA can hack devices for surveillance, like TV sets. Sounds terrible.

But what is the ordinary person most at risk of, the CIA spying on them (very slim chance especially here in New Zealand) or Facebook monitoring everything you do online and storing data history of millions of people, with that data being used to directly influence individuals?

And on WikiLeaks:

31 Comments

  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  March 8, 2017

    Some people never learn that if it’s on Facebook, it’s public. Look at the dumbums in Auckland who did as people have done since cars were invented, broke in and took them for joyrides….and videoed themselves doing it…and put the videos on Facebook. The police must have been pleased. Er, don’t people realise that the police also have access to Facebook etc ?

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 8, 2017

      I meant that these idiots videoed themselves, not that other people have generally been that stupid.

    • Blazer

       /  March 8, 2017

      do you think the Police will catch them?

    • NOEL

       /  March 8, 2017

      Was a time when Customs Police etc used Google a lot.
      But now why bother. Probably been more busts using Facebook than realised.
      Not surprising given many crims are dumb buggers. May it continue.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 8, 2017

        Like the one who broke into a Hamilton house without checking to see if the owner-a big, tall policeman-was out.

        He wasn’t.

        I was told by someone who owns a sewing machine shop that the front window was broken and all the really expensive machines on display in it
        taken.

        There was one small problem as far as the thieves were concerned. The cords and everything else needed to make the machines go were, of course, still in the boxes . It would have been like steaing cars with no engines, if not worse.

        Some genius once stole a giant bottle of Chanel No. 5. It was, of course, a display item. I forget what was in it, but it wasn’t perfume 😀 Coloured water, probably.

  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  March 8, 2017

    Why the nonsense about Wikileaks from Biddle and Bennett? It’s far more credible than they are.

  3. Corky

     /  March 8, 2017

    As Ian Wishart found out, intelligence communities can hack PGP encryption, once the gold standard for laymen.

    Don’t forget Windows, Pete. Windows probably spies more than Facebook. Goodness knows what will happen when all our household devices are connected to the ‘Internet of Things’.

    • Blazer

       /  March 8, 2017

      ‘nothing to hide…nothing to fear’…John Spy…going…but not…forgotten.

      • Corky

         /  March 8, 2017

        But you have much to hide, Blazer. Going dark down the rabbit hole wont save you against these guys.

        Wishart was in talks with that rouge M15/6 spy if I remember correctly when he was hacked.

        • Blazer

           /  March 8, 2017

          ..’hacked’….to ..death?

          • Corky

             /  March 8, 2017

            He’s never been the same since.

            • Blazer

               /  March 8, 2017

              read Wisharts best book …’the Paradise Conspiracy’….very good expose on the ….chicanery of the ‘born to rule’ criminals.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  March 8, 2017

              Wayne’s mum got that out of the library ages ago Blaze…I remember her saying how upset she was to read they were actually all rich white pricks ❗

            • Corky

               /  March 8, 2017

              But they weren’t born to rule. They were middle-class opportunists who fooled themselves into believing they weren’t crooks.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 8, 2017

              They were hardly ‘middle class’, Corky. Read the book

            • Corky

               /  March 8, 2017

              I have most of his books, I will re read. Can you give me an example. Sir Michael Fay for starters.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 8, 2017

              ‘Sirs’ generally aren’t ‘middle class’, Corky. It’s a good read, & I suspect your memory will be refreshed, after a few chapters… A very clever scheme, & completely legal.

            • Corky

               /  March 9, 2017

              I never knew Fay was born a Sir, into a truly wealth family.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 8, 2017

          Why was the M15/6 spy red?

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 8, 2017

      Unlikely PGP can be cracked if you use a strong passphrase and a long key.

      • Blazer

         /  March 8, 2017

        dream on Al….you are a neo lib sycophant with …nothing to hide…anyway.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 8, 2017

          And you as usual are an offensive twit, B.

  4. MaureenW

     /  March 8, 2017

    What is Facebook but a consolidated spying tool? Social Network – give me strength. The Arab Spring” was orchestrated using Twitter and Facebook – remember those coincidental uprisings that deposed the leaders of Tunisia, Egypt, etc

    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 8, 2017

      • Blazer

         /  March 8, 2017

        what she posts on FB is her decision..yes…are you one of those that does not care whether agencies eavesdrop on your private conversations?

        • patupaiarehe

           /  March 8, 2017

          It doesn’t matter whether I care or not Blazer, they will do it regardless. It would take them under 5 minutes to realise, that I’m only a threat to myself. Which is why I don’t care.

          • Blazer

             /  March 8, 2017

            oh well …I call that defeatist,why should we roll over and accept that invasion of privacy!

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 8, 2017

              What do YOU, intend to do about it?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 8, 2017

              Here’s one to help with that paranoia, Blazer 😉

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  6. I must say that Wikileaks has been a good citizen by redacting most of the code so thaat you do not have the ability to reproduce the CIA tachniques. I have followed through on some of the information and have established that they have done a good job of redacting, but at the same time retaining sufficient information to validate their claims. It does seem though that the CIA has covered a lot of ground that other agencies have the prime function for like NSA, DIA and the FBI which is an overkill. It is an area that the bean-counters in Trump’s administration could find the potential for huge savings.
    The bottom line for us peasants is that anything you do in relation to cyber-space and the internet is out there for everyone to exploit if they have the capability. So leave your radical thoughts as just that and don’t articulate them to anyone else, and only say things about others that you would be prepared to say to them face to face. If you adopt a position on anything, be prepared to admit you are wrong if the evidence demonstrates that your position is incorrect.