Open Forum – Friday

10 March 2017

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47 Comments

  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 10, 2017

    No surprises here of course …..although Wayne finds Peter *a bit of worry* nonetheless 😳

  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  March 10, 2017

    Health and Safety regulation kills more jobs:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11815231

    As I mentioned the other day, each US regulator costs 138 private sector jobs.

    • In fairness Alan, the article says, ” … a combination of a downturn in its contracting work around the Pacific, the completion of major network upgrades, and new health and safety legislation.”

      You’d surely have to agree that OH&S is a balancing act – as is so much of what we call ‘regulation’ – which is actually democratic governance – because “lack of Health and Safety regulation kills more” … PEOPLE …

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 10, 2017

        It’s much safer doing nothing, PZ. Except for the suicides, drug abuse and despair it generates.

        • Ummm … hello … I don’t really see what “doing nothing” has got to do with the topic Alan … Care to elaborate?

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 10, 2017

            H&S => no job => doing nothing.

            • Hence … balancing act …

              In my reading of the Herald article, H&S legislation is the least of the factors. Perhaps it just plays into your agenda …?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 10, 2017

              OSH is a very handy hook for some people-they claim that OSH says this and that when it doesn’t at all. A local vicar claimed that OSH demanded that church doors be open during services, regardless of the weather. She was immune to the cold, the rest of us weren’t.This was absolute nonsense, of course. The church also spent a fortune on a dish steriliser. Again, OSH demanded it-not. As it’s impossible to KEEP things sterile in an ordinary environment, this seemed pointless.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 10, 2017

              Who does the balancing, PZ? I bet the decision-makers have next to zero knowledge of the adverse effects on employment their H&S regulations have.

  3. PDB

     /  March 10, 2017

    This day in music history….Andy Gibb kicks the bucket at only 30 years of age.

    Wikipedia: “On 5 March 1988, Andy Gibb celebrated his 30th birthday in London while working on the new album. Soon after, he entered John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford complaining of chest pains. At around 8:30 am on 10 March 1988, Gibb’s doctor told Andy that more tests were needed. But later that day, he slumped into unconsciousness and died as a result of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle caused by a recent viral infection (a diagnosis supported by William Shell, a cardiologist who had previously treated Gibb[18]),[6] which was exacerbated by his years of cocaine abuse.[19] Robin Gibb said “he was also not eating properly and the lack of nutrition also damaged his heart”, adding that the paranoia associated with cocaine abuse “shattered his confidence and he became scared of people.”

    • Corky

       /  March 10, 2017

      He was a real Gibb. He was even boning Victoria Principal. Some people never realise how lucky they are. Money, talent and women sometimes aren’t enough.

      • PDB

         /  March 10, 2017

        He thought he was stayin’ alive with just some night fever but tragedy hit and in the end how can you mend a broken heart?”

        • Blazer

           /  March 10, 2017

          how deep is your love? [Deleted derogatory nickname] …deep.

          • PDB

             /  March 10, 2017

            The Labour party sang “I Started a Joke” then proceeded to make Goff, Shearer, Cunliffe & Little its leader in quick succession……….

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 10, 2017

          People have died young who weren’t coke-heads, but that obviously isn’t a health supplement. Call me naive, but I would be terrified to take hard drugs.

          .

        • Blazer

           /  March 10, 2017

  4. lurcher1948

     /  March 10, 2017

    UP40 a running mechanical god…What man can make and run,and i did my boilerman’s test here in NZ in a better age centuries ago, Beautifull large steam engine, run by the Union Pacific steam section for tradition and publicity.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 10, 2017

      Nice Lurch, not only a feat of engineering, but also a work of mechanical art. Some may think that steam power is a thing of the past. They couldn’t be more wrong…

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 10, 2017

        Steam trains look wonderful puffing away through the countryside, but they are smelly, dirty, noisy, shake houses that they pass more than one would believe possible and their whistles are heart-attack inducingly loud. I notice that when people draw trains, they tend to draw the old choochoo types, and train signs still have these on them

        • patupaiarehe

           /  March 10, 2017

          Steam trains are magnificent, for all the reasons you listed above Kitty. It’s a bit like comparing a digital watch to an old spring powered one. They both serve the same purpose, but the elaborate mechanics involved in the older model, make it a work of art, rather than just a timepiece…

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 11, 2017

            They are terrible when they go past one’s house. No wonder the slums were always near the railway lines, it must have been dreadful. We used to have an occasional one go past, one of the restored ones, and the whole house would shake, the stink was foul, the whistle sent animals into spasm of terror…in a town they are most undesirable. The smell and smoke are disgusting close up. These old machines are real pollutants, and while I am glad that some survive, I wouldn’t want to have them going past any house I lived in all the time.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 11, 2017

            The modern analogue watches and clocks are the best of both-the look and tick but without the need to wind them all the time.

            I found an old windup alarm clock in an opshop-one of those little folding ones that needs to be wound-and like it very much. No danger of power cuts, flat batteries and whatever makes the other kind go deolally in this house and go off at ridiculous times.

            I have a huge old black phone-and I am very glad that we don’t have those for phones any more ! It’s funny to see the reaction when someone asks to use the phone and I direct them to that. It had its wire and box so it looks as if it’s wired in.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 10, 2017

        We have our own Gabriel up here, Lurch:

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 10, 2017

          Rats, try this:

        • patupaiarehe

           /  March 10, 2017

          That is a ‘Thomas’, compared to Lurch’s ‘Gordon’, Alan. It’s still great though… 🙂

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 10, 2017

            Agree on both points, patu.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 10, 2017

              I’ve taken the kids up to Waiuku a couple of times, to ride the steam trains there, and they all loved it. 🙂

  5. At first listen I like this better than Green Light.

  6. Corky

     /  March 10, 2017

    Haven’t seen Kitty around today. Has she misjudged crossing the highway?

  7. Kitty Catkin

     /  March 10, 2017

    Meoh, meoh, meoh, meoh. I’ve been here for ages. Well, not all the time that I’ve been online, of course.

    Rain, rain go away, come again on Blazer’s birthday.

    It was lovely that the last two days’ forecasts of rain didn’t happen until late this afternoon-not a drop yesterday, so let’s hope that the new ones are as inaccurate as that was. There was enough blue this morning to make trousers for every sailor in NZ, not just one.

    Can anyone believe that young ones would be silly enough to think that Justin Bieber would want them to send rude photos of themselves to him-and do it ? Even at that age, I wouldn’t have been that gullible.

    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 10, 2017

      Not that gullible Kitty? My webcam tells me otherwise….

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 11, 2017

        It won’t when Tabby Tom sprays on it.

  8. patupaiarehe

     /  March 10, 2017

    Just for ‘shits & giggles’, I encourage you all to watch ‘7 Days’, on 3+1 at 10pm. Their guest tonight is Hone Harawira, and IMHO, he did pretty well.

  9. lurcher1948

     /  March 10, 2017

    • lurcher1948

       /  March 10, 2017

      A more mature version with Terri….

    • Pickled Possum

       /  March 11, 2017

      This rendition of her song is the Best she aged soo well over the last 30 years. Go Girl!!

  10. lurcher1948

     /  March 10, 2017

    2016 Terris even more beautiful,,,