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Fox News: FBI’s specialized mole-hunting team deployed to catch CIA leaker

Less than 24 hours after WikiLeaks published what it described as the “entire hacking capacity of the CIA,” a federal criminal probe by a specialized FBI unit has begun, Fox News confirmed.

But while tracking down moles is nothing new for the FBI or the CIA, experts are suggesting that this search could prove to be particularly difficult.

FBI Director James Comey … made clear that since Snowden’s infamous leak, technology has made the search for criminals of all kinds, cyber or otherwise, much more difficult.

Dennis Kucinich: New WikiLeaks reveal proof we are sliding down the slippery slope toward totalitarianism

The U.S. government must get a grip on the massive opening that the CIA, through its misfeasance, nonfeasance and malfeasance, has created.

If Tuesday’s WikiLeaks document dump is authentic, as it appears to be, then the agency left open electronic gateways that make all Americans vulnerable to spying, eavesdropping and technological manipulation that could bring genuine harm.

That the CIA has reached into the lives of all Americans through its wholesale gathering of the nation’s “haystack” of information has already been reported.

It is bad enough that the government spies on its own people. It is equally bad that the CIA, through its incompetence, has opened the cyberdoor to anyone with the technological skills and connections to spy on anyone else.

 

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39 Comments

  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 10, 2017

    *GET REAL* …even Wayne’s mother knows who’s responsible for the leaks ❗

  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  March 10, 2017

    A bit ironic that the US complains bitterly about Russian and Chinese state spying. Not much moral high ground there.

    • There never was any moral high ground with US claims of Russia interfering in their election, given US involvement in regime changes and propping up over the decades.

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  March 10, 2017

        Q: Why will there never be a coup d’état in Washington?

        A: Because there’s no American embassy there.

  3. lurcher1948

     /  March 10, 2017

    It’s alright when the USA and the national party does it

  4. Joe Bloggs

     /  March 10, 2017

    White House Officials assert that trump was not the target of any investigation just 5 days after trump asserted he was being wiretapped…

    White House officials declared on Wednesday that President Trump was not the target of an investigation, five days after Mr. Trump himself raised the prospect with an unsubstantiated claim that his predecessor ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower.

    After first refusing to disavow Mr. Trump’s allegations, made in a series of Twitter posts, and instead calling for Congress to investigate them, the press secretary, Sean Spicer, told reporters, “There is no reason that we have to think the president is the target of any investigation whatsoever.”

    Mr. Spicer’s statement, which he read from a sheet of paper that was handed to him at the end of his briefing, reinforced the conundrum Mr. Trump’s tweets have created for the White House: Either the president’s assertions are baseless, or he may have implicated himself in a government investigation of contacts between his presidential campaign and Russia.

    With no evidence of wiretaps emerging, the White House has been forced into a defensive communications strategy. It has curtailed Mr. Trump’s appearances before cameras, where reporters could ask him about his claims.

    So the WH strategy for dealing with communications from the POTUS is to hide him away – what a modern-day theatre of the absurd the election of trump has caused

  5. Joe Bloggs

     /  March 10, 2017

    Bernie Sanders eviscerates Crooked Donny in two short paragraphs

    I happen to strongly believe in civil political discourse. The vast majority of people in Congress who hold views different than mine are not liars. It is critical we have strong, fact-based debates on the important issues facing our country and that we respect people who come to different conclusions. In a democracy people will always have honestly held different points of view.

    But how does one respond to a president who has complete disregard for reality and who makes assertions heard by billions of people around the world that have no basis in fact?

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2017/03/07/bernie-sanders-takes-on-washington-post-reporter-for-blog-post-criticizing-his-criticism-of-trump

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  March 10, 2017

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  March 10, 2017

        I had hoped maybe that once he took office, some of his supporters would sober up and realize what a disaster he is, but no, they seem to be doubling down on stupid.

        • PDB

           /  March 10, 2017

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 10, 2017

          Meanwhile, back in the real world, the illegal immigrants Trump wants to deport have been busy killing girls. But the Lefties are only interested in slagging him off:

          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11815587

          • Anonymous Coward

             /  March 10, 2017

            Haven’t we been here before in the 80’s and 90’s? The childcare workers will be pleased it’s not them in the firing line this time.

          • Anonymous Coward

             /  March 10, 2017

            Satanic death cults will play out well with the bible-belt voters.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 10, 2017

              Yes. The division of the US continues. However the immigrant gangs have spread to the big blue cities so the backlash probably will too.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  March 10, 2017

              The big blue cities are where gangs have always been, they’re a fact of life going back to the first cities and the first immigrants. New York’s had gangs since the Irish and Sicilians first landed and LA has had South American gangs of all flavours for decades.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  March 10, 2017

              You come up with some dumb stuff from time to time Al (for a smart man), but “the immigrant gangs have spread to the big blue cities so the backlash probably will too” has to take the biscuit.
              Put your thinking cap back on.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 10, 2017

              We’ll see, AC. Meanwhile the illegal immigrant business has taken a big hit:

              http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/politics/border-crossings-huge-drop-trump-tough-talk/

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  March 10, 2017

              Deflecting doesn’t suit you.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 10, 2017

              No deflection at all. The topic I raised was immigrant crime. I rested my prediction for the future against your extrapolation from the past and pointed to a relevant factor changing.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  March 10, 2017

              The topic you raised was the second wave of Satanic Hysteria.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 10, 2017

              @AC, no, that was the topic you raised.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 10, 2017

              So even in true blue New York the worms are turning and Trump-hating journalists are being reined in:

              http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-new-york-daily-news-coverage-235670

          • Nelly Smickers

             /  March 10, 2017

            To be fair though *AnonC*, the gang you are thinking of that Leonardo De Caprio was leader of, has long since been replaced with a *really, really nasty one* from El Salvador: *MS-13* o_O ….I’m pretty sure this is wot *Al* would actually be referring to, wasn’t it Al ?

      • Anonymous Coward

         /  March 10, 2017

  6. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 10, 2017

  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  March 10, 2017

    Trump seen as a disruptive innovator:

  8. KDC’s call on Twitter to Trump to release Julian Assange because it is not a win-win situation can be turned around to charge Assange with Treason and Trump will get the FBI and CIA sceptics on side. Win=Win?

    • MaureenW

       /  March 10, 2017

      Not sure the issue is that simple BJ. I think there is more at stake here than what is currently being played out. Trump’s agenda is quite an about-turn from the last 20 or 30 years of US policy so there are many with vested interests who don’t want Trump’s direction to succeed. I can’t recall a time like it, although I’m told there are parallels with Nixon and there may yet be parallels with Kennedy – we’ll have to wait and see.

      • Thanks Maureen for a thinking response. Yes, we have to wait a bit until the real answers are foud.

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  March 10, 2017

      Hiyaa BJ ….don’t know if you managed to catch this *live* earlier today, if not, thought an *old spy* like you may be interested 😄

      • Thanks Nelly, I hadn’t picked it up myself. perhaps slowing down! However, very interesting to listen to his explanation of what drives him and Wikileaks. Also, a bit of an indictment of the way the US organises its Intelligence Community. Very expensive approach to monitor potential enemy countries and their intentions!

  9. Joe Bloggs

     /  March 10, 2017

    The tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists are having a field day with their laughable allegations that Obama and the intelligence community are waging a covert coup against trump.

    So let me get this straight:
    – Obama secretly spied on trump’s campaign
    – Obama didn’t use that info during the election
    – and he isn’t president any more

    Well that coup really worked…

    Think about this: if there truly were a deep state then trump wouldn’t be president. Simple eh…

    There’s no evidence of a “deep state” operating and the notion in the US has been described as a “figment of Steve Bannon’s imagination” by those who have worked in national security.

    If you mobilise Occam’s Razor, the answer is much simpler than some mythic deep state coup.

    It’s all the lies, the misinformation, the smokescreens, the constantly changing stories, the alternative facts, the misogyny, the xenophobia, and the thin-skinned knee jerk reactions. It’s the twaddle about antagonising the media, and the intelligence community. It’s all of the evasions about income and separation of personal interests. It’s all the blaming of some shadowy bureaucratic group of faceless operatives rather taking responsibility for your own failures….

    Behave like a president.

    Then, maybe, just maybe, people will stop criticising you.

    There are always leaks, and some are probably politically motivated just as plenty are to set the record straight or to spread gossip.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/the-deep-state-is-a-figment-of-steve-bannons-imagination-214892

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 10, 2017

      Of course Obama and his Democrats are trying to overthrow Trump and the Republicans.

      But this is for you, Joe:

      VAN JONES, CNN: When Trump breaks the rules, we start fanning ourselves and fainting and freaking out and handing out all of these protocol violations. And for his supporters, his appeal has nothing to do with protocol. It has everything to do, though, with pride and prosperity.

      He’s saying, I want you to be proud of the country and have a job. So liberals seem to only see, like the crazy tweets. And we act like that’s all he’s doing. But his supporters actually ignore those tweets. You want to know the tweets they cherish? The one where he’s taking credit for the stock market that’s rising and their 401(k)s doing better and the jobs he so-called saved. If progressives want to understand Trump supporters, those are the tweets we need to be paying attention to.”

      I think he’s driving liberals insane. I mean that. I think he is. I think he is. And I’m seeing more — I’m seeing liberals and progressives now so mad and distracted and depressed, I’m like, I don’t really want y’all to be in charge either. So it’s — Am I wrong?

      http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/03/09/van_jones_trump_driving_liberals_insane.html

      • The Media worm is turning against the Obama/Clinton Political scenario, and the MSM are beating the retreat signal. I hope that the final outcome will be a realisation by the US that they are not gifted with a monopoly of the truth nor an authority to create the world in their vision of Democracy. Think about a world where we are not competing for supremacy or authority over others and compare that scenario with a commitment towards working together to achieve a goal that sees off poverty, starvation,illness and conflict and one that prioritises the achievement of humankind’s capabilities to do good for all of the Universe? No I am not pushing any religious, political or idealogical bandwagon, just wanting humanity to be the guiding principle.