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  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  12th March 2017

    BREAKING….

    This will certainly be a *big boost* to KDC’s camp…..particularly as FOX are reporting this morning that *Prosecutor Preet Baharra* has been FIRED ❗

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    A message to Hollywood 🙂

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  2. Missy

     /  12th March 2017

    I posted this in Media Watch, but it may be better suited here as it discusses the affect of TDS.

    Is liberalism the new McCarthyism? It seems some in Hollywood think it is, being a conservative in Hollywood is now detrimental to the career of many.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-conservatives-hollywood-20170311-story.html

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    • Gezza

       /  12th March 2017

      What a load of tripe that article is. The writer obviously had time on his hands to make shit up. Plenty of conservative actors producers & financiers are gonna make a lotta moolah in the movie business under the Trump administration, producing even more jingoistic crap like American Sniper, The Hurt Locker & all the Yanqui gung-ho bullshit movies Eastwood (barf) has been making for yonks. Same as they always have.

      The movies will do well with the hayseeds & the steel, auto, police-security-military-industrial complex workers, including the naval dockyard welders & steel fabricator, the cowboys, the combine harvester drivers, the moneyed classes, the business fraternity, so they’ll end up scoring Oscars – & the Glitterati, the Celebritati, & the Entertainerati will end up having to attend their parties, along with their protest signs tattooed on their usual revealingly designer outfit-exposed boobs, hips & butts.

      That’s my bet.

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  3. Conspiratoor

     /  12th March 2017

    Good news folks, the wall’s already paid for – thanks to a 40% fall in illegal immigration in February. Result reduced crime, law enforcement costs, education, medical care etc etc. The Donald has shown that border security is not that hard. It merely requires willpower and resolve

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/03/trumps_wall_is_already_paid_for.html

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    • Gezza

       /  12th March 2017

      That’s a relief. So they won’t be needing a wall now.

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      • Gezza

         /  12th March 2017

        Er … from a quick scan, those cost figures & savings are all projected / estimates, c. Cost savings speculated on there probably won’t look quite so rosy once you factor in the increased ongoing costs of enforcement, courts – apprehensions & removals, wall, system & other border infrastructure maintenance & so on.

        But, saying that, I really have problem with the US massively tightening its borders & stopping illegal immigration. We have the good fortune to be hard to get to as isolated islands. If we had the kind of illegal immigrant influxes they did people in NZ would be screaming at the government to do something too.

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        • Gezza

           /  12th March 2017

          Bugger. I really have NO problem … I meant to say.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  12th March 2017

          Not only that, I gather Congress passed a law requiring a wall to be built years ago and it hasn’t been implemented.

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          • Gezza

             /  12th March 2017

            I think they are probably going to have a few technical problems here & there. The Rio Grande springs to mind. I’m sure it’s doable. Someone will need to keep an eye on where the money’s going if private contractors rather the Army Corps of Engineers are involved though.

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            • Trevors_Elbow

               /  12th March 2017

              Why would the Rio Grande be a problem? Its the border along the Texas frontier….. set up a wall just back from the rivers edge and trap illegals between the wall and the fence…… sounds perfect…

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico%E2%80%93United_States_border

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              Well, I could be wrong but I’d be surprised if its whole course is something light a straight or gently curving line across an easy to work uniformly-compsed landscape with nothing to consider like topography, soil & rock strata, flood issues etc, Elbow.

              Also, I assume if they set The Wall too far back from the river’s edge I assume tossers like Alex Jones & Hannity will start whingeing about surrendering too much American territory to greasers. They could landmine the ‘no man’s land’ I suppose. That’d probably make the dimmer Trump voters happy?

        • Conspiratoor

           /  12th March 2017

          The flow on effects are largely conjecture at this stage G and depend on which side of the politicial wall you are. They will be debated long and hard. What you can’t debate however is the massive drop in February, and a betting man might be inclined to put his grandmother on the fact this has something to do with the new administration. Cheers,c

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  12th March 2017

            Good to see you back by the way. Your absence yesterday was causing Sir Al and Nellie some distress

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  12th March 2017

              I saw refugees FROM the US on the news.

              If the river can’t be blocked, the wall is pointless.

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  12th March 2017

    The “liberal” media bubble – and the reason some of us are here:
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-really-was-a-liberal-media-bubble/

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    • Gezza

       /  12th March 2017

      So wha are the important point or points in that that would make it worth reading?

      You really are just ‘phoning them in’ these days, Alan. Plagiarism really.

      A one-liner, & a link to an article containg entirely someone else’s thoughts. At least others here take some time to give a few kines of a viewpoint as well.

      What about posting a video of something with some substance? 😳

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      • Gezza

         /  12th March 2017

        Typos are the fault of my !/&@!n older brother sending me a stream of !/&@$n texts instead of thinking thru what he !/$&@!n reaaly wants to say first 😡 !

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  12th March 2017

        “Phoning them in”. Ouch!!!

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        • Gezza

           /  12th March 2017

          Typos also to be blamed on my back – still hurts like a bastard. Kept on doing man projects after I pulled me back muscles summat awful, & every bloody one seemed to require bending to the point it put me on my knees, cursing the c word at some bloody point. Been raining here since last night so finally giving it a rest.

          Yeah, but you know what I mean c. Ever since you awarded him his knighthood, His Lordship has just got lazier & lazier. Imagine if this was all Pete’s posts were?

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  12th March 2017

            His eminence humbled me yesterday G, I’m still hurting. Seems a useless price of trivia I’d carried around for 50 years is nothing more than a myth

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            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              I spotted that at some ungodly hour this morning – then I drifted off into the Land of Nod while the weather outside made a half- hearted attempt at a thunderstorm that fizzled out after two flashes of blue-white light about 50 km away. This !/$&@n back is also the reason I’ve had to patch the bathroom wall today so I can re-fit one bracket for the new towel rail tomorrow after it turned out to be visibly about as level as !$&@!n Baldwin Street. Anyway, I’d better get on & have a look around for some other victims.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              In fairness to you, C, some of that plankton science is quite recent.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  12th March 2017

            I presumed that was the reason for your bad temper, G. I give you something interesting to read and you just grizzle and whinge. And you’ve stopped even reprinting Trumpy’s tweets yourself. Time for some bath therapy.

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            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              I’ve only stopped doing the tweets because I haven’t had bloody time & I post them because they’re needed imo to keep people properly up with the play on his doings & doings. Otherwise we just get polemical articles from the TDS & TBS sufferers here. Anyway, at least I add some Editorial commentary where needed. I could have another long hot shower but the bathtowel rail’s on the !$&@!n floor & it’s my back’s !$&@!n fault 🤕❗️

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Trumpy’s tweets are just him waving red flags to the media bulls and getting them charging madly into vacant space while he gets on with doing what he wants to do somewhere else.

              I guess they’ll figure that out eventually though they’re pretty thick so maybe not.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              Don’t think so, Al. I think they’re mainly ego-driven dribble. Suits you to pretend they’re something with deeper meaning, of course.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              You’ve confused meaning with strategy, G. They’re meaningless, but they are strategic.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              You’re right. My back hurts much sitting here on the sofa typing on the FiP I’m not thinking straight. I meant to say it suits you to pretend they’re part of some deeper strategy. This guy loves being loud, shooting his mouth off without a clue, hogging the floor, & being in the limelight. End of story.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Non-sequitur. He loves it, but it is also strategic. The Dems lost by under-estimating him and his team. So are you.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              I’m neither underestimating nor overestimating him. I’m just observing him, dispassionately. I do the same with his opposition. Some of it is as ludicrous as he can be. Ending here, Alan. Anything more on this is just wasted time – all we are posting is our opinions. But I’m often not wrong, as you know. 😎

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              That from a man who can’t put a towel rail up straight?

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              Ad hom. I win, Alan. 💪❗️

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Gezza’s rule: even when he loses he wins.

      • Corky

         /  12th March 2017

        That’s unfair on Al, Gezza. Us Righties lead hectic lives. Its not easy shunting money around the world ahead of the tax man, while simultaneously disrespecting native populations.

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        • Gezza

           /  12th March 2017

          For God’s sake, Corky. See above. Al might as well just post a link & !$&k off these days. In fact, I think that’s all he’s doing, isn’t it?

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          • Conspiratoor

             /  12th March 2017

            Give him a break G. Sunday’s laundry and accounts day. He’ll be along later to bore us with the minutiae about the soiled washing

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Weather’s been too bad, C. Nelly’s tips aside laundry’s a dirty business.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  12th March 2017

      Hide on a similar crusade – the lack of diversity in those most loudly advocating for it:

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11814886

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      • Corky

         /  12th March 2017

        The Hydster nailed that one. Real world v Ivory Towers.

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      • Gezza

         /  12th March 2017

        “He would work at McDonald’s. He would learn customer service. He would spend months on a concrete gang. He would learn what it is to build and to produce.”

        MacDonalds? For shit wages for a globalist corporation? All Hyde does is nail his whiny skinny ass hide to a fence post with this article.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  12th March 2017

          80% of McDonald’s are franchises in NZ. You are working for a local business owner. That is a simple example of the kind of thing professional politicians and bureaucrats don’t know.

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          • Gezza

             /  12th March 2017

            They don’t pay much. That’s something Rodney Hyde probably doesn’t know.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Of course he does. The point is we all did low paid jobs when we were young or students and we learnt stuff we wouldn’t learn in a high-paid job in a bureaucracy.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              Well Rodney Hyde didn’t need to get a higher education to learn to whine about bureaucracy & take cheap shots at public servants who can’t kick his skinny ass back so easily in the media, & that bald canary coot knows it.

              Those franchisees still have to shackle themselves solely, & pay royalties to, Shitburger HQ, in the USA too, don’t they? MacDonald’s is a fatgenerating blot on the landscape everwhere, just like KFChunder. Better burgers are made just about anywhere else but wherever Trump steaks are served, btw. (Do they still have Trump steaks, or did those bomb out – can’t remember.)

              A Dutchman I know who just retired about 4 years ago established two printing businesses here in Welly. All he needed was a good accountant’ he said.

              Had a few sleepless nights about meeting the lease payments on his million dollars worth of equipment at the start but wound up making pots of money. He couldn’t figure out why I didn’t just start one. Reckoned New Zealand is one of the easiest countries in the world to start & run a business in.

              So whose pocket’s Hyde always pissing in, & why?

  5. Welcome back Gezza, one hopes your inflexion infection is short term and not catching. Alan’s point of “group think” being the cause of the bubble that exploded in the MSM and Democrat’s face shows to me the danger of not weighing up both sides of any particular argument and just going with the mob think. That said, I think live and let live has merit and no person has the right to control another’s attitudes, thoughts, and decisions within the norms of society. So Jack is as good as his Master despite possible differences in background or wealth.

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  6. Nelly Smickers

     /  12th March 2017

    *Chuck* in LA retweets…

    And so it should be…… it’s always meant *instant dismissal* at the DHB’s 😡

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    • Pickled Possum

       /  12th March 2017

      Nells link won’t open, must be the blasted rain eh?
      “The investigation revealed over 20 cases at the Justice Department during the past two years, and numerous cases at the Environmental Protection Agency. The report includes the notorious case of an EPA employee in the Office of Air and Radiation who, while earning a $120,000 salary, watched porn between two and six hours every day, masturbated at work, and received bonuses.

      The employee said that “‘a lot’ of his time each workday is spent ‘organizing’ the pornography he downloaded into saved folders,” according to the records obtained by NBC News 4.

      The report noted that although being caught watching porn “opens employees to possible disciplinary action,” including being fired, several agencies said penalties are “flexible” and can carry just a written reprimand.

      The EPA employee was not fired and stayed on the payroll for years even though he had been banned from the building. He continued to receive his six-figure salary for two years after being caught, including a year of paid leave before he retired in April 2015.”

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3531515/posts

      Watching porn is well paid work in America it seems. I do recall a news item a few weeks ago saying thousands of workers were caught watching child porn at work and they have now reopened the cases looking for what I’m not sure.
      Really don’t men and women realise that porn is damaging to a healthy sex life.

      Yaa it has stopped raining back outside.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  12th March 2017

        You should be a sex therapist, Possum.

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        • Gezza

           /  12th March 2017

          Have a word to Trumpy too, while you’re on the job, Possers. 👍

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th March 2017

            The tweets come after his trumpiness has taken umbrage, not before-or so it seems. It would be even more undignified for a president to be doing what Alan suggests,

            Child porn is inexcusable, but I have heard that for many people porn is a turn-on in their sex lives.

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  7. Zedd

     /  12th March 2017

    I hear Mr T is only half way to his ‘first 100 days’.. BUT it feels like he has already caused enuf chaos for his whole term ! 😦

    Can we really stand much more of this B-S from ‘King Don’ of USA ? 😀

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  12th March 2017

      No. As per the link I posted a day or two ago, Trumpy is driving the Left stark, staring mad. Not a long trip and almost complete.

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      • Gezza

         /  12th March 2017

        If he’s driving them mad, how come he does so much ranting?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  12th March 2017

          You haven’t noticed he flicks out 140 characters and they spend days or weeks filling newspapers with their fury in response?

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          • Gezza

             /  12th March 2017

            You haven’t noticed they print an article criticising something mad, bad or sad that he does or says & he spends weeks flicking out 140 characters of whining about it.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              No, he doesn’t. A minute or two from him generates hours and hours of “whining about it” from the MSM.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              Does your Mrs ever manage to get the last word in in a conversation with you, or does she have to slam the door and run away out of earshot to achieve that?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              She says, “Yes, dear.”

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Now she’s giving me a hard time about that answer.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              Yeah bro. Poor lady would have to.

              Finished my first FaceTime session with older brother in NP. About 4 conversations going at once, but at least he was listening for about 2 of them. Can’t shut him up long enough to get a word in most the time. At least my sister has returned from Brunei & can keep him under close observation.

              Rest Home visit time, Al. It’s the weekend. The residents will be bored. I’ll rark them up. They like that. Catch ya later – then I’ll see if anything of yours deserves a downtick, or a rare uptick. 🖐

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              … like the uptick I just gave you – but that’s for your Mrs really.
              That is all. Over & out. 1458 hours.

  8. PDB

     /  12th March 2017

    Interesting post on Kiwiblog the other day………Clinton easily beating Trump in the unpopularity stakes.

    “Interesting stuff in the USA Today/Suffolk Uni poll:

    Right direction 46%, wrong direction 43%
    Trump favourable 45%, unfavouable 47%
    Clinton favourable 35%, unfavourable 55%
    Pence favourable 47%, unfavourable 35%
    Media favourable 37%, unfavourable 50%
    Trump approve 47%,disapprove 44%
    Hispanics – Trump approve 38%, disapprove 53%
    34% agree media are the enemy of the people, 59% disagree
    Most trusted TV sources – Fox 28%, CNN 11%, PBS 9%”

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  9. Gezza

     /  12th March 2017

    Do they only have 3 tv news channels?

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    • Gezza

       /  12th March 2017

      FiP❗️😡

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    • PDB

       /  12th March 2017

      No – like Andrew Little’s preferred PM rating the rest fall under 9%…..

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      • Gezza

         /  12th March 2017

        How do you explain Fox News coming out ahead? They have about the depth of a shoe sole. Is USA Today some right wing rag? Did they poll at Republican HQ?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  12th March 2017

          You have forgotten they are polling the average voter – as per Churchill’s caution.

          The top three U.S. newspapers by total average circulation – from print products, digital subscriptions and other papers that use their branded content – are USA Today (4,139,380), The Wall Street Journal (2,276,207) and The New York Times (2,134,150), according to Alliance for Audited Media.Oct 28, 2014

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          • Gezza

             /  12th March 2017

            I’ve forgotten Churchill’s caution about the average voter. I remember he had a propensity for throwing away kiwi soldiers’s lives on fruitless military adventures that were brilliantly inspired ‘soft underbelly’ ideas for winning WWs 1 & 2 & he agreed to give Keith Park the push so that fathead Leigh-Mallory could take over after Park saved Britain from the Luftwaffe. Also he believed Britain should continue to rule India. So he could be a right dork when he wasn’t snarling at the Nazis, which is probably why he got aresholed when the war was over.

            What breakdown do you have for party affiliations of the readership of USA Today?

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Its polls are done by Suffolk University. Nothing to do with its readership.

              Churchill wrote well. Obviously not on a FiP.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              He spoke like a drunk toff.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Ever read his books? Quite special.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              I can’t remember, which suggests probably not. If I was to read anything I’d probably like to read his History of The English Speaking Peoples.

              He was a lucky old bugger with WW2 that Roosevelt was fond enough of him to flog him off some old destroyers & other materiel that of course bankrupted Britain paying for them but also came in on his side so that the Yanks & the Russians could win the war for the Brits. Otherwise they’d have been in the grotney pudding with dad’s army & a few bren carriers & lee enfields left to to win the war with after Dunkirk. The French were fucking useless.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              What idiots downticked me for saying Churchill spoke like a drunk toff? Have you actually listened to him? Call up his speeches on youtube or somewhere.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  12th March 2017

          Fox News popularity is confirmed by ratings:

          . Fox News led all basic cable networks this year [2016], with an average of 2,475,000 viewers in primetime – up 36% from last year. CNN jumped 77% (from 732,000 to 1,298,000), and MSNBC leaped 77% (from 596,000 to 1,113,000).

          Note that Fox is up with the big 3 broadcast networks in the last table (Adults 18-49)

          http://www.indiewire.com/2016/12/cnn-fox-news-msnbc-nbc-ratings-2016-winners-losers-1201762864/

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          • Gezza

             /  12th March 2017

            So what? The Apprentice & The Osbournes & The Kardashians & Oprah & Ellen are or were high rating too. Are you going to tell me that means they’re !$&@ing quality programmes worth watching & believing too?

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              No, your comprehension is suffering along with your back. I’m showing you it is not surprising that Fox came out ahead in the trust survey question.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  12th March 2017

              But as I’ve shown you before Al, their figures are eclipsed by the free to air news on the big three and John Oliver.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th March 2017

              Take out the children and geriatrics and that’s not shown in the data I linked.

            • Gezza

               /  12th March 2017

              I’ve lost interest Al. Fox is a shit channel.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  12th March 2017

              What are you talking about? Fox NEWS is at 29th place in that age bracket, Fox Television is at 4.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  12th March 2017

              * 26th (354 000).

  10. Missy

     /  12th March 2017

    Trump will meet Merkel on Tuesday, the Telegraph have looked at the key battleground areas between the US and Germany around Security, Immigration, and Trade.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/12/netherlands-bars-turkish-ministers-as-nazi-remnant-dispute-escalates

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    • Gezza

       /  12th March 2017

      Yes, Aljaz was broadcasting the song & dance Erdogan is making about this as item one on their tv news all morning. I commented about it on Media Watch earlier today. Time to give that man the elbow. Wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him, personally.

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