Media watch – Tuesday

14 March 2017

MediaWatch

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    • Kevin

       /  March 14, 2017

      For the life of me I cannot see why medical marijuana – i.e. pot that is so low in THC it can’t even get a fly high – is illegal. Even people who are against marijuana being legalised think medical marijuana should be legal. There is absolutely no reason why someone with a doctor’s prescription shouldn’t be able to go into a chemist and say give me some of your low in THC but high in CBD marijuana.

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      • @Kevin

        If you are serious about discussing the medicinal use.. then why not, make the effort to use its correct name: CANNABIS, as opposed to the slang word, associated with recreational use; ‘marijuana’ ?

        knowledge is power.. nonsense, is just that ! :/

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        • Kevin

           /  March 14, 2017

          I use the terms cannabis and marijuana interchangeably. But if you want me to use cannabis when discussing medical use I have no problem with that.

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          • If you are using Cannabis & ‘marijuana’ interchangeably, then why not add: ‘Ganja’, ‘herb’, ‘weed’, ‘smoko’ , ‘kif’.. or ‘GOOD SHIT’ (also slang names) ?

            This is why this issue (IMHO) stalls, because people who speak on it, often do so from a position of misinformation & even ignorance !
            I’m not claiming to be an expert.. but I try to, at least do my homework !

            …. just saying… 🙂

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    • Kevin

       /  March 14, 2017

      Decriminalisation in Belgium has resulted in a significant increase in first time users but an even more significant decrease in deaths due to drug overdoses. Of course that doesn’t mean that decriminalisation elsewhere will have the same result. But all in all I think it reinforces my statement that most people are temperate drug users – i.e. will try something once or twice – and will avoid the really dangerous stuff like heroin and meth. Also in Belgium at least decriminalisation has overall resulted in a decrease in the use of MDMA (Ecstasy) amongst young people, and not an increase as one would have expected.

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  3. Gezza

     /  March 14, 2017

    Well, I suppose some can argue that some people who use some drugs are actually the ones who are violating their right to health.

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    • I guess to an extent, but addiction is a medical issue that often needs medical help, but if the drug use is illegal people are less likely to seek help.

      So many of them (ones who survive) end up in prison so become both a health and a justice problem and burden.

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      • Gezza

         /  March 14, 2017

        True. And they often produce some pretty amazing music before it all goes a bit pear-shaped.

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      • Kevin

         /  March 14, 2017

        Addiction is defined as using something against all reason and not being able to stop and where there are physical withdrawals if the person does try to stop. Addictions always start with habit. Nobody tries a drug and is instantly hooked.

        My cousin was hooked on methamphetamine. The best thing that ever happened to her was going to prison. Now she’s clean, has a family, and has been clean for years.

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  4. Blazer

     /  March 14, 2017

    Anne on TS….very interesting…. ‘The biggest tell-tale sign was Key’s decision not to attend the funeral of the three soldiers killed in Afghanistan. His excuse was he had promised his son he would fly to Los Angeles in time to see him play a baseball game. It transpired the game wasn’t scheduled until four days later – plenty of time to attend the memorial service and get to his son’s game. But:

    it also transpired he had a dinner date prior to the game with Warner Bros. and you can bet your bottom dollar there were some other very interesting people in attendance. We just don’t know who they were.’

    -guess the baseball didn’t work out …for the son.Poor Key…nothing left in the tank’…and resigns because….

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    • Corky

       /  March 14, 2017

      Yes…resigned because….?

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      • Gezza

         /  March 14, 2017

        Blazer? What’s the answer mate?

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        • Blazer

           /  March 14, 2017

          if I told you….my life would be in…danger.

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          • Gezza

             /  March 14, 2017

            Jesus. Mind if I ask where you stand on the Illuminati? 😳

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            • Blazer

               /  March 14, 2017

              illuminati is just another term for the ‘born to rule’ elite,the clever clique of private central bankers that worship profit and power and care not about ..sovereignty or national pride.

            • Gezza

               /  March 14, 2017

              Alex Jones says they’ve been around for centuries & stuff. So, are these the people who will you kill you if you spill what you know? If not, who is it you fear, because you’re generally pretty fearless and have plenty of shotgun pellets to spray about regularly?

            • Blazer

               /  March 14, 2017

              I didn’t think you would take it literally G…I have little fear of dying…have a look at the fate of a ‘nonentity’ in Paul White who got caught up in something that embarrassed the ‘illuminati’…..

            • Gezza

               /  March 14, 2017

              Oh, ok. I might do that later on. So … why do you think Jonkers resigned?

            • Blazer

               /  March 14, 2017

              He quit while he was ahead…the ramifications of the housing bubble,inequality,the angst about the implementation of surveillance laws,the endless microscoping of every thing he said or did.He had a heads up on the U.N resolution and being a Jew it was not something that would go down well in the finance world.The odds are that this election will be the closest for years.A smooth transition handing a hospital pass to Billy,his C.V is unblemished ,his knighthood guaranteed ,and his legacy…..??A triumph of style over…substance.

            • Gezza

               /  March 14, 2017

              Maybe. Who’s going to triumph next with substance over style, or substance & style then, do you reckon?

            • Blazer

               /  March 14, 2017

              @G..I hate to say it but ..perception always trumps reality these days….Winston is the best campaigner…English is hopeless,Little is dour but decent….it looks like…Lynton..will get the govt home..again.

            • Gezza

               /  March 14, 2017

              Little manages to always come across as having no grasp of detail or answers to how would that be done and be better questions. Also he thinks everybody is still either a worker or a boss. Bill sounds like a Treasury bean counter but he can always quote some dry details so unless those can be convincingly debunked with other dry details it sounds like he’s at least up with the play & has the ‘facts’ to back him up.
              Everybody’s pissed off about housing except landlords but the waters are now gloriously muddy about what the actual cause is & what the fix is. Winston is great at stirring things up at the right time but he kills governments he’s in coaltion with & is dodgy with words so you need to check for ambiguities all the time. The Greens … I dunno.

              Not looking forward to the next election.

  5. Pete Kane

     /  March 14, 2017
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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  March 14, 2017

      Pay $29 a month for links to freely available press releases…I don’t think so.

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  6. PDB

     /  March 14, 2017

    Greg Presland branches out from being wrong about politics by saying the recent heavy rain was caused by climate change….

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/03/hope-better-lawyer-climate-expert/

    NIWA: In New Zealand, heavy rainfall is relatively common. Often, a significant amount of precipitation occurs in only a few hours, leading to severe flooding and landslide risk.

    Heavy rainfall occurs over New Zealand mainly because of the following common weather systems:

    *ex-tropical cyclones
    *North Tasman Sea lows moving to NZ region
    *depression/lows from the south
    *cold fronts.

    New Zealand’s mountains tend to modify and amplify precipitation, and this often causes the frequent heavy rainfall we experience. Heavy rainfall tends be most common over the western coastal region of the South Island and the middle and upper North Island, and least common on the east side of the South Island (due to the prevailing westerlies).

    https://www.niwa.co.nz/natural-hazards/extreme-weather-heavy-rainfall

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    • Griff

       /  March 14, 2017

      by saying the recent heavy rain was caused by climate change….

      You can not say any single event was caused by climate change .
      What you can say is all weather we now have is effected by climate change .
      When it comes to extreme rainfall events Physics says that warmer air can hold more moisture.
      There’s a lot of literature exploring increasing extreme rainfall events.
      https://scholar.google.co.nz/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&as_vis=1&q=increase+in+extreme+rainfall+events+due+to+climate+change
      I have not seen any study’s for NZ but it is highly likely our rainfall patterns will follow the trend found else where.

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      • PDB

         /  March 14, 2017

        What we can’t say is that all weather we have now is mainly due to man-made climate change……..

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        • Griff

           /  March 14, 2017

          PDB
          Is English your second language?
          You seem to have issues with nuance and meaning.
          All weather is effected by climate change.
          is not quite the same as
          . all weather we have now is mainly due to man-made climate change……..
          We will always have weather but what we consider as normal is slowly changing.

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          • PDB

             /  March 14, 2017

            “We will always have weather but what we consider as normal is slowly changing.”

            Auckland has always had extreme weather events, especially heavy rainfall over a short period of time. Check out the ‘Papers Past’ website and see for yourself. There is no proof that these are becoming more common regardless of you posting another graph that is again untitled & appears to come from the alarmist ‘Risky business Committee’ who appear to made something up……. For Presland to say the recent one-off heavy rain was caused by ‘climate change’ (and he was meaning ‘man-made climate change) is idiotic, and not that helpful for alarmists like yourself.

            You’re the new king of deflection……..Blazer will be fuming

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            • Gezza

               /  March 14, 2017

              Must admit I really do miss dave he says dave.

            • Griff

               /  March 14, 2017

              Hello BDP
              The graph was merely to illustrate to you what a shift in normal distribution looks like. The source is immaterial.
              Above is a google scholar link to many scientific papers exploring the increase in extreme rainfall .Read some and get an actual education on the subject.

              “Alarmist” as in what science says ?

              I do not consider my self an “alarmist” more like a realist. I base my opinion on reading extensively on the subject from reputable sources not whacko blogs and MSM rubbish. .

              As opposed to it is not happening which is nothing but a faith based religion.

            • Blazer

               /  March 14, 2017

              it was alot colder in Auckland 45 years ago…thats a fact …ask the ..Col,

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 14, 2017

              Yes, B, according to NIWA Auckland was about 0.5 deg C colder 45 years ago. Could anyone detect that?

  7. Zedd

     /  March 14, 2017

    news flash; protest/petition to say “NO !” to allowing OUR clean water to be bottled & shipped/sold overseas (with no cost to the businesses ?), whilst some regions are running short of drinkable water in NZ.. ie Natz main policy; money, money, MONEY 1,2,3 on the priority list. 😦

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    • Blazer

       /  March 14, 2017

      @AL…total b/s…citation.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 14, 2017

        If that’s addressed to my comment above, Griff linked to the raw data yesterday. Not sure if it has been checked out for urban heat island effects though.

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        • Blazer

           /  March 14, 2017

          I can assure you 45 years ago anyone who lived in Auckland will confirm that winters were a hell of alot colder…freeze puddles cold/crunch frost on grass cold than today.0.5..NIWA have obviously ..NFI.

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          • There’s always been variety in Dunedin, but winters over the last few years in particular haven’t been as harsh. We still get the occasional sprinkle of snow but frosts are becoming uncommon.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  March 14, 2017

            They’ve got thermometers, B. Ideas are not involved.

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            • Blazer

               /  March 14, 2017

              tell them to take their thermomenters out of their arse…thats why the temperatures..rising.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 14, 2017

              Seems to me it’s your temperature rising, B.

  8. Pete Kane

     /  March 14, 2017

    “Politics: Muldoon’s ghost in resource legislation
    Former Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey Palmer is warning that the changes proposed to the Resource Management Act”

    Sorry Geoffrey, 30 years (believe it or not) of excuses doesn’t make them any more plausible or palatable.
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1047/Muldoon's-ghost-in-resource-legislation-Resource-Legislation-Ammendment.htm

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    • Gezza

       /  March 14, 2017

      Seems a bit silly … I can read that one article for free but I can’t read “About Us”.

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      • Pete Kane

         /  March 14, 2017

        Yea, agree G, (Ms Kitty would be impressed with that little poetic interlude.)

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