Trump asked for wiretap evidence

Donald Trump has been asked by the House intelligence committee to provide evidence in support of his claim that President Obama ordered wiretapping of him and his campaign. John McCain has also asked the current president to front up.

But White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway has dismissed demands – and made some odd accusations herself, including an alternate fact, saying that monitoring could be done with “microwaves that turn into cameras,” and “We know this is a fact of modern life.”

Fox News: Conway brushes off McCain demand to prove wiretap claim or retract

White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway on Monday brushed off a demand by Sen. John McCain to either provide evidence of President Trump’s wiretapping claims or retract the allegation, saying the White House will wait until congressional committees release their own findings.

“We will comment further after those findings are made clear,” Conway told “Fox & Friends.”

She was responding to McCain, R-Ariz., who on Sunday said Trump has “one of two choices” to make regarding his explosive allegation two weekends ago that former President Barack Obama tapped his phones.

“Either retract or … provide the information that the American people deserve, because, if his predecessor violated the law, President Obama violated the law, we have got a serious issue here, to say the least,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Top lawmakers also expressed doubt Sunday that the Justice Department would meet a bipartisan request to provide evidence by Monday.

Not only is Team Trump supporting and defending his unprecedented and unsubstantiated accusations, they are adding degrees of bizarreness.

USA Today: Kellyanne Conway suggests even wider surveillance of Trump campaign

The White House is offering yet another wrinkle in its attempt to support President Trump’s allegation — unfounded, so far — that his campaign headquarters in Manhattan was wiretapped by the Obama administration. The latest comes from Trump’s senior counselor Kellyanne Conway.

She says the “surveillance” may be broader than even Trump suggested.

In a wide-ranging interview Sunday Conway suggested that the alleged monitoring of activities at Trump’s campaign headquarters at Trump Tower in Manhattan may have involved far more than wiretapping.

“What I can say is there are many ways to surveil each other,” Conway said as the Trump presidency marked its 50th day in office during the weekend. “You can surveil someone through their phones, certainly through their television sets — any number of ways.”

Conway went on to say that the monitoring could be done with “microwaves that turn into cameras,” adding: “We know this is a fact of modern life.”

Conway did not offer any evidence to back up her claim. But her remarks are significant — and potentially explosive — because they come amid a request by the House Intelligence Committee for the White House to turn over any evidence by Monday that the phones at Trump Tower were tapped as part of what the president claims to be a secret plot by the Obama administration to monitor his campaign.

The White House has not said whether it will provide any corroborative support to back up the president’s claim of the alleged wiretapping.

If they don’t substantiate Trump’s claims it will add weight to the likelihood that his Tweets were based on the rant of a right wing radio crank and a report by Breitbart, an activist ‘news’ site that campaigned for Trump and against Hillary Clinton, and whose CEO is now virtually CEO of Trump’s White House.

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  1. David

     /  14th March 2017

    Here and in all the anti Trump media there have been god knows how many articles attributed to annonymous sources that intelligence agencies confirmed so and so from Trumps team spoke to…and now all of a sudden when Trump says he was tapped here and other media outlets ridicule his claim.
    The whole quote from Conway in context she was asked if wiretapping was a generic term and the term could cover other forms of surveillance so again more biased spin from the media making shit up to fit their narrative.

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    • Unless Trump’s claim can be substantiated it should be more than ridiculed, it should be condemned don’t you think?

      Or do you think he can make potentially damaging and serious accusations without scrutiny or repercussions if it is found his claims were unfounded?

      The US media certainly has it’s faults, but that’s no excuse for giving an irresponsible president from making shit up.

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      • David

         /  14th March 2017

        Trump has referred the claims to the house and senate intelligence committee as is the appropriate thing to do. That committee has now demanded info from the DOJ so he is playing a pretty straight bat here, he also said he wont be commenting until the investigation is complete.
        Lets wait shall we or should we be overcome by our urge to kick Trump in the teeth.

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        • Trump bared his teeth by making a very serious accusation via Twitter, a very underarm way to do things, and now you say due process should be respected?

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        • Joe Bloggs

           /  14th March 2017

          Nup I’m all for kicking trump in the teeth for bullshitting bigtime on his so-called wiretapping.

          it’s completely appropriately as POTUS for him to back up his claim and he has the ability to release any and all evidence without any recourse to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence or the DoJ – but he’s given no evidence, and bipartisan members of Congress have cast doubts on it. And that’s what happens when you glom your insights from alt-right fake news sources like Breitbart and Mark Lewin.

          But more than the bullshitting, trump’s wiretap claims have other serious implications. Based on previous reporting and the nature of FISA courts, any wiretaps within Trump Tower would be legal. And they would stem from overwhelming evidence that the Trump campaign, or someone within it, has unsavory ties to Russia or another foreign power. Otherwise, it’s unlikely those wiretaps would exist at all.

          If federal authorities did have cause to listen in on Trump Tower, though, and they provided enough evidence for a FISA court to approve the snooping, Obama’s not the one who ought to worry.

          Meanwhile I just pressed the Popcorn setting on my microwave and it showed me secret spy video of Kellyanne Conway eating lunch.

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      • David

         /  14th March 2017

        “Unless Trump’s claim can be substantiated it should be more than ridiculed, it should be condemned don’t you think?”

        Why does this not apply to all the claims Trump is in the pocket of Putin?

        “Or do you think he can make potentially damaging and serious accusations without scrutiny or repercussions if it is found his claims were unfounded?”

        Ditto

        “The US media certainly has it’s faults, but that’s no excuse for giving an irresponsible president from making shit up.”

        He gets away with it because the media just makes shit up and calls it news.

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  2. David

     /  14th March 2017

    The failing NY Times had an article quoting un named sources in the intelligence agencies quoting what General Flynn said to the Russians and then the same journalist claims Trump has no proof that his team were surveilled. Well which one is it.

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    • Repeating the dirty meme of the failing President Trump?

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      • David

         /  14th March 2017

        absolutely, and as for the absurdity of the Times contradictions.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  14th March 2017

        To be fair Pete there was significant amount of reporting in the WaPo and NYT about what investigators had found out about the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia through their surveillance activities.

        The story turned on a dime when Trump tweeted and the same papers that loudly proclaimed the damning surveillance are now loudly proclaiming there is no evidence there was ever any surveillance.

        You may have noted the whole Russia saga has started to die off as a result with a number of stories about the fact no evidence of collusion was ever found.

        In this respect Trump doubled down and called the bluff of the people promoting Russian collusion.

        You can blame Trump as much as you like but he is simply fighting fire with fire. Whether his tweet was correct or not.it served it’s purpose in killing off the obviously over egged Russia story.

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        • “he is simply fighting fire with fire” – by lighting new fires via twitter.

          That’s not very Presidenty to say the least.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  14th March 2017

        NYT Jan 19:
        “American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump,..
        It is not clear whether the intercepted communications had anything to do with Mr. Trump’s campaign, or Mr. Trump himself.

        One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.”

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  3. High Flying Duck

     /  14th March 2017

    Trump has never been very presidential. People need to move on from that as he got voted in being who he is. Nothing has changed there.

    He campaigned on doing things very differently – an opposite of Obama who talked nicely but did terrible things.

    NYT Feb 2017:
    “Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

    American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election…

    …The officials said the intercepted communications were not limited to Trump campaign officials, and included other associates of Mr. Trump….”

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  4. Joe Bloggs

     /  14th March 2017

    So when he accused a former president of illegal wiretapping, trump tweeted:

    Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

    and

    How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!

    But according to Baghdad Bob Spicer’s latest version of alternative reality:

    1. trump wasn’t referring to wiretapping
    and
    2. trump wasn’t referring to Obama specifically

    Talk about bullshit revisionism!

    All this wittering on about how the media is so terrible and making shit up to fit their narrative, and how trump is fighting fire with fire, is smoke and mirrors, political spin, and bullshit in its own right…

    The basic premise of the First Amendment is that truth should defeat her opposite number. “Let her and Falsehood grapple,” wrote the poet and politician John Milton, “who ever knew Truth put to the worse in a free and open encounter?”

    But this only accounts for speech and debate between citizens. It doesn’t apply to accusations made by the government. Those are something altogether different.

    In a rule of law society, government allegations of criminal activity must be followed by proof and prosecution. If not, the government is ruling by innuendo.

    Shadowy dictatorships can do that because there is no need for proof. Democracies can’t.

    This all reminds me of Orwell’s Animal Farm and how Squealer the pig rewrote the seven animal commandments to accommodate the actions of the pigs as they progressively broke one commandment after another.

    Do you remember Snowball? Though he fought bravely for the animals at the Battle of the Cowshed, the facts were altered to say he openly fought on the side of the humans and the shot wounds were changed to wounds Napoleon inflicted on him. Those accused of supporting Snowball were executed after being forced to “confess”, and a reward was offered for his capture.

    In Orwell’s book Squealer represented Vyacheslav Molotov who was Stalin’s protégé and head of Communist propaganda. Orwell used Squealer to illustrate how the increasingly totalitarian and corrupt regime of the pigs used propaganda and deceit to get its ideas accepted and implemented by the people.

    The parallels are patently clear.

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  5. The same media that published stories of intercepts of Trump and his officials contacts with Russian officials quoting former and currently serving US and UK Intelligence officers as their sources are now saying Trump has no evidence and he should be prosecuted. Not a hell of a lot of logic there. Dust storms blowing in the wind, will we ever know the truth? Meantime the MSM sales are going up.

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  15th March 2017

      It was a right wing conspiracist that cobbled this story together.

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