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From Missy in comments:


It’s a big week this week. First up is the Article 50 Bill.

The Bill is back in the House of Commons and will be debated and voted on this afternoon before going back to the Lords.

Reports are that the Government has managed to stave off the rebellion, a small number of rebels are expected to abstain or vote against, but the Government believes they have the numbers for the bill to pass with no amendments.

Once the vote is gone through the Commons it will go back to the Lords today as well, it is expected to pass unopposed in the Lords as well.


Just in, Nicola Sturgeon will be seeking approval next week to hold a second Scottish Independence Referendum. She will ask Westminster for a Section 30 order which will give her the power to hold the referendum. The earliest possible date is Autumn 2018.

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  1. Missy

     /  14th March 2017

    It’s a big week this week. First up is the Article 50 Bill.

    The Bill is back in the House of Commons and will be debated and voted on this afternoon before going back to the Lords.

    Reports are that the Government has managed to stave off the rebellion, a small number of rebels are expected to abstain or vote against, but the Government believes they have the numbers for the bill to pass with no amendments.

    Once the vote is gone through the Commons it will go back to the Lords today as well, it is expected to pass unopposed in the Lords as well.

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    • Gezza

       /  14th March 2017

      Probably just as well. They should hurry up & get out of the EU before Erdogan declares war on Europe.

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      • Gezza

         /  14th March 2017

        Al Jazeera’s Inside Story 30 minute analysis discussion is on. It’s about Erdy the ranter. I’ll have a dekko & report on anything interesting.

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        • Gezza

           /  14th March 2017

          Turkish professor – ” oh this business about European governments being Fascists & Nazis, this is just the kind of political language he uses in Turkey & we’re used to it, but they might not be used to it in Europe …”

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        • Gezza

           /  14th March 2017

          Now he’s trying to explain how a majority yes vote to the referendum which will mean a more authoritarian government in which Erdogan could remain in power in theory until 2029 will be an improvement in their democratic government.

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          • Gezza

             /  14th March 2017

            Finished now. Prof in Ankara doesn’t seem too bothered by media offices being closed down & mass arrests of government, police & mikitary officers over there. I imagine a few countries in the vicinity are checking maps to see how far the Ottoman Empire extended before it got the boot last time. Speculation from he might decide to release a flood of Syrian refugees European countries paid him to keep holed up in Turkey. All very interesting. Should all put paid to his EU entry bid but that’s probably a good thing all round really.

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            • Gezza

               /  14th March 2017

              I don’t think he thinks things through. Shooting down a Russian jet fighter must’ve seemed like a bright idea at the time but now he’s ended up as Putin’s bitch once the Russians showed him how economically unhappy they could make him over that.

  2. Missy

     /  14th March 2017

    Momentum have organised a protest outside Parliament today as a last ditch effort to try and get the Government to guarantee the rights of EU citizens. The protest is timed to take place at the same time as the debate in Parliament.

    Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell are going to join the protest, something that has been criticised by the Liberal Democrats Leader, Tim Farron. Farron has labelled Corbyn a hypocrite for attending a protest when he could be in Parliament doing something constructive to help the EU citizens, Farron said it was the worst kind of virtue signalling.

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  3. Missy

     /  14th March 2017

    Nicola Sturgeon is to give a speech today about the future of the union, she is expected to demand a second independence referendum for Autumn 2018 unless Scotland gets a special deal with Brexit.

    The latest BMG poll on Scotland independence for The Herald has support at 48% for independence, but had support for a second referendum at 44%. This poll was published today.

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    • Missy

       /  14th March 2017

      Just in, Nicola Sturgeon will be seeking approval next week to hold a second Scottish Independence Referendum. She will ask Westminster for a Section 30 order which will give her the power to hold the referendum. The earliest possible date is Autumn 2018.

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      • Missy

         /  14th March 2017

        UK Labour’s position on the referendum.

        1. They will oppose a second referendum in Holyrood (Scottish Parliament)
        2. If it passes at Holyrood they will not oppose the second referendum in Westminster
        3. They will campaign for a No vote if there is a referendum

        Confused? Most here seem to be.

        Scottish Greens have pledged to support Sturgeon in Holyrood giving her the numbers for it to pass there before going to Westminster for permission to hold the referendum.

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        • Gezza

           /  14th March 2017

          They showed a short clip of Theresa tut-tutting. Looks like it’s boiling down, essentially, to a cat fight between two Sheilas with strong accents that various folk find hard on the ear for different reasons.

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          • Gezza

             /  14th March 2017

            Video Clip was showed On Aljaz I meant. They also showed the Dutch PM answering questions at a live Press Confererence, politely putting the boot in to Erdy, apparently with the blessings of other EU countries, so the battle lines are finally being clearly drawn again between Christendom & Islamadom I rather think.

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    • Nelly Smickers

       /  14th March 2017

      *Morning Missy*…..held the fort for you yesterday XD

      *Katie H* tweeted me earlier this morning……I assume *The Ginger Dwarf from the North* she refers to is Nicola Sturgeon ❓ LOL

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      • Missy

         /  14th March 2017

        Saw that Nelly – thanks. 🙂

        Yes, I believe Katie H is referring to Nicola Sturgeon. Though I do object to her being called the Ginger Dwarf (as a Ginger Dwarf myself I don’t want to be associated with her). 🙂

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        • Nelly Smickers

           /  14th March 2017

          Goodness, that’s terrible….site protocols would certainly prevent *Katie H* from posting something like that here 😡

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          • Missy

             /  14th March 2017

            I would hope so Nelly, though it is the association with NS that I object to as opposed to being a Ginger Dwarf! I embrace my Ginger, and have found being vertically challenged an advantage many a time. 🙂

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      • Blazer

         /  14th March 2017

        #deleted – you know not to use derogatory names PG#

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  4. Missy

     /  14th March 2017

    No. 10 has said that Article 50 won’t be triggered until the end of the month.

    Debates and voting on the Lord’s Amendments is underway at the moment.

    The first amendment to guarantee EU citizens rights was defeated 335 to 287.

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    • Missy

       /  14th March 2017

      Excellent, that is good.

      Conditions should never have been attached to what is essentially a process bill.

      Just need the Lords to do what they said and let it pass.

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  6. Missy

     /  14th March 2017

    The EU and NATO have both said that if Scotland votes for independence then they will have to reapply for membership to both organisations.

    There have also been suggestions by some (not in Government) that the Ministry of Defence should delay any non-essential shipbuilding contracts until after a referendum, as the UK Defence should not be having their ships built in a foreign country – not sure if those that suggested it were serious or not, but it is a possibility if Scotland goes for independence, though an outside one I would guess, the UK will not want to be seen as being spiteful towards Scotland.

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  7. Pete Kane

     /  14th March 2017

    Brexit: How New Zealand Might Cope
    by Brian Easton
    “New Zealand has little alternative but to accept the direction the Brits are taking, albeit with regret.”
    Agree with the former rather than the latter.
    http://www.pundit.co.nz/content/brexit-how-new-zealand-might-cope

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