Kaye versus Ardern

If Jacinda Ardern thought she wouldn’t have to contend with Nikki Kay again after she moved to the Mt Albert electorate – they competed for Auckland Central for the last two elections – she was mistaken.

Today in Parliament Kaye took a major swipe at Ardern in the General Debate.

I think the phrase that I would give New Zealanders is: you have got one party of substance, of significant initiatives delivering for New Zealand, compared with a superficial cosmetic facelift. I want to talk about the deputy leadership of the Labour Party.

We lost Annette King. I want to acknowledge Annette King. She has been a brilliant member of Parliament. She is someone who has huge respect across the House. And we got Jacinda Ardern.

Now, I have been based in Auckland Central for 8 years. I struggle to name anything that Jacinda has done.

What I can say is that a great example is when Kevin Hague and I developed an adoption law reform bill. We spent a year on that bill; we put it in the ballot.

Jacinda Ardern did a one-line bill telling the Law Commission to write the law for her.

On her first day in the job as deputy leader, on one of the biggest issues confronting our generation, Generation X and Generation Y—on the issue of superannuation affordability—where was she?

She had made a whole lot of statements previously about the importance of raising the age, and Jacinda Ardern was nowhere to be seen. She had cut and run on the biggest issue facing our generation, and that is another example of what is a whole lot of photo ops—yes, she will be across every billboard, but she absolutely failed our generation on her first day on the job.

It looks like National have decided to try and unsettle Ardern, who may have thought everything was smoothly going to plan. Until today.

Kay continued later in her speech.

This is a Labour Party that thinks the only way that it can get into Government is to totally get rid of all of its policies and to make sure that has got some nice fancy new billboards and some photo ops—compared with a Government that is prepared to make the hard decisions, that is investing in infrastructure, and that is investing more than a third more in schools.

And again:

You have got significant investments happening across social housing, and you have got a Labour Party—the main Opposition—that thinks the way that it can win is to have no policy, to have a superficial facelift, and to have another person on the billboards.

I do want to acknowledge that this election will be fought on some of the big issues for Generation X and Generation Y, and in my view it is this side of the House that is confronting those issues, and that side that is failing.

Ardern wasn’t present but responded to media later.

NZ Herald: Gloves off: National MPs target Labour’s Jacinda Ardern in series of attacks

Ardern was not in the debating chamber at the time, but said she saw the debate on television.

She said her and Kaye had made an agreement when they ran against each in Auckland Central to only talk about issues and not make personal attacks.

“I’ve stuck to that,” Ardern said.

Newshub: Nikki Kaye launches war of words on Jacinda Ardern

Jacinda Ardern was surprised at the attack, and told Newshub “It’s certainly not a style of politics I’ve seen her use before”.

“Nikki and I have run against each other in Auckland Central for a number of years and usually pretty much stuck to the issues and avoided making it personal. I’m going to stick to that.”

“I’m going to stick with the way I like to do politics, and it’s making sure that you keep away from making it too personal. But each to their own.”

Electorate contests are more one to one and personal, especially when candidates campaign together as Ardern did with Green MY Julie Anne Genter in Mt Albert.

But Ardern should have been aware that by stepping up into a deputy leadership role, and promoting herself as the new face of the party, she was getting into a highly competitive high stakes level of politics.

Voters look for leaders who look like they can lead, not just look and be nice.

Kaye is stepping up to higher levels of responsibility as a Minister, and also as a party representative.

Ardern may need to toughen up and shape up.

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25 Comments

  1. PDB

     /  March 15, 2017

    Ardern: “I’m going to stick with the way I like to do politics, and it’s making sure that you keep away from making it too personal. But each to their own.”

    Hardly defending herself or her record over what Kaye was saying was she?

  2. Corky

     /  March 15, 2017

    Welcome to the ‘RIGHT’ way, Cindy. Wait until the budget comes out. If its a good one, Cindy will be left floundering as she tries to win back contented voters who don’t care, while simultaneously propping up a lame duck Labour leader..with no feet.

    • Corky

       /  March 15, 2017

      I think Kay and Paula should gang-bang Cindy in parliment. Getting her to cry would be a major coup.

      • patupaiarehe

         /  March 15, 2017

        No Corky, that would be really ‘dirty politics’, and it would backfire on the ‘offenders’.

        • Corky

           /  March 15, 2017

          That is a possibility- worse, it may make Cindy dig deep and find her ‘inner bitch.’
          Oh, but the temptation of seeing her cry. That’s the end of her as a polly. That’s the end of Labour come election time. Today I just sensed how vulnerable she is.

          • patupaiarehe

             /  March 15, 2017

            You are falling into the ‘politics of personality’ trap, Corky. As much as you’d love to see Jacinda cry, the majority of voters who witnessed it, would be asking questions about the character of those who reduced her to tears. Personally, when I see anyone cry, it makes me uncomfortable. I don’t enjoy witnessing upset people. And I get really irritated, by individuals who enjoy it…

    • Blazer

       /  March 16, 2017

      attacking the messenger not the…message….is stock standard for this…govt.Kaye does herself a disservice by adopting such methods.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  March 16, 2017

        She attacked Ardern’s record, not Ardern.

        • Blazer

           /  March 16, 2017

          Ardern presents opposition policies.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  March 16, 2017

            Ardern has been in parliament for a significant amount of time and has nothing to show for it.

            She’s had 11 low level portfolios in which she hasn’t landed any hits against the Government.

            She’s put in two private members’ bills. Both very weak. Her first bill on adoption was a press release pretending to be a bill. It merely instructed the Law Commission to go write the real bill and have the Government introduce it. The bill was so bad even the Greens voted against it. It actually undermined the real work done cross party by Kevin Hague and Nikki Kaye who met with all the stakeholders, with law professors, adoption groups and wrote a detailed law reform bill.

            Her latest bill is much the same. It is labelled the Child Poverty Reduction and Eradication Bill. It basically sets up a a Child Poverty Reduction Board! That’s it. It’s a sound bite not a serious law.

            (above & below are paraphrased from KB as it summed her up well).

            Nikki Kaye on the other hand:

            MP, Nikki Kaye, has a huge list of things she has achieved in the electorate. They include:

            Getting Aotea Conservation Park established on Great Barrier Island
            Delivered rural broadband to GBI
            Key role in re-establishing the Pride Parade
            Led a campaign on changing body corporate laws for apartment dwellers
            Helped persuade Mt Albert Grammar to include GBI students in their zone
            A former staffer for Len Brown once told me that when most people met the Mayor they had just one issue to talk about. Nikki would front up regularly with 10 to 15 issues.

            http://nikkikaye.co.nz/achievements/

            And in Parliament:

            While MP’s are there to promote their party they should also be pushing on issues close to their hearts and achieving personal milestones.

  3. PDB

     /  March 15, 2017

    I’m awaiting with bated breath for the left-wing to come out in protest at Ardern being used as Andrew Little’s ‘plaything’, a visual-aid with no real portfolio or responsibility who has been asked to go around the country with the only goal of making Andrew Little look more electable………

  4. duperez

     /  March 15, 2017

    I was waiting for Kaye to show the smart-arse nastiness I’d witnessed and use it with the goal of making her (in her comparative youth), and her party, look tough. Sort of Apprentice Judith.

    Patupaiarehe is falling into the trap of expecting niceness in a blood sport of survival. Not just from the participants but also the observers. Corky expecting to see Ardern finding her ‘inner bitch’ instead gets Kaye letting part of her inner bitch become an outed bitch.

    The types who want to see eyes scratched out and face kicked in, as long as Kaye is doing it, will attack Ardern if she gets sucked into playing the game Kaye and Co. want and talk about the pressure getting to her.

    If she doesn’t engage they’ll talk about how gutless she is.

    • Corky

       /  March 16, 2017

      ”Corky expecting to see Ardern finding her ‘inner bitch’ instead gets Kaye letting part of her inner bitch become an outed bitch.”

      Please don’t misquote me. I was expecting nothing. I was stating a possibility.

      ”If she doesn’t engage they’ll talk about how gutless she is.”

      Maybe. But isn’t that politics? Like South Auckland, the weak don’t last long on the street.

      • duperez

         /  March 16, 2017

        Sorry, I thought you implied that Ardern “backfiring on the ‘offenders’ ” might see her react like that.

        The context of words eh? After hearing all the stuff on radio this morning as follow-up to the incident involving the Wellington College incident, that we’re here still writing is good. What do you reckon would have happened to the College kids if they’d shared, “Kay and Paula should gang-bang Cindy in parliment” ?

        • Corky

           /  March 16, 2017

          ‘Sorry, I thought you implied that Ardern “backfiring on the ‘offenders’ ” might see her react like that.’

          Yeah, the context of words, lol. might v possibility.

          ”After hearing all the stuff on radio this morning as follow-up to the incident involving the Wellington College incident, that we’re here still writing is good. What do you reckon would have happened to the College kids if they’d shared, “Kay and Paula should gang-bang Cindy in parliment” ?’

          A+B= D

  5. Zedd

     /  March 16, 2017

    Maybe they should just, give them a pair of boxing gloves & have ‘The battle of the Akld. Babes’ ?

    I’ll put a tener on Jacinda for a KO, in the 1st round 😀

    • Blazer

       /  March 16, 2017

      sumo wrestling no contest….Bubbles Bennet against….any 2.

  6. Lima misa

     /  March 17, 2017

    Still tongue makes a wise head. Keep it that way Jacinda Ardern. I’m switching to Labour.

    • PDB

       /  March 17, 2017

      Love it when Labour supporters go on comments sections and say they are now ‘switching to Labour’! Oldie but a goodie………

  7. John Cameron

     /  March 17, 2017

    So what harm did Nikki Kay’s attack do Ardren? Its more likely in the public’s eyes Kay harmed herself. Most voters see through such hollow politically motivated attacks, Ardren appears smart enough to realize this. Maybe she is leadership material which is really what is bothering National.

    • PDB

       /  March 17, 2017

      “Maybe she is leadership material”

      No she isn’t, and National would do well to just ignore her and let her ineptness speak for itself………

      • Gezza

         /  March 17, 2017

        Personally, I think Nikki would’ve been better to do that. She was on’t telly last night, on1Ewes, speaking to an item about a school whose roll has gone from 200 to 600 and which no longer has space for a library because all the available rooms have to be used for classes.

        The item showed 20 or so kids crowding into a kind of storeroom with a few shelves of books. There’s no room for a proper reference library. I forget the number given but several schools had informed the reporter they also now didn’t have space for proper libraries.

        The clip they showed of Nikki was only a few seconds long, of course, but was basically just her saying: “well, several schools have told us that they don’t want libraries … “. She sounded like a bit of a dick really.

        • PDB

           /  March 17, 2017

          They wouldn’t ‘edit’ her statement to sound that way and fit the narrative of their story surely………………

          • Gezza

             /  March 17, 2017

            Well, of course they would. I’m reliably informed by Sir Alan they’re all liberal leftards in the msm here, and of course we all know if you can’t make a scandal or a joke out of it, it doesn’t get on to the the telly anyway. But my point is if Nikki wants get up & talk about the media darling, Jacinta, being useless, while she of course is not, doesn’t that just incentivise, particularly the tv media, to go have some fun with her?

            As Al said, in one of his more reasonable moods, Nikki’s speech just seemed gratuitous.

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