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  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 15, 2017

    Thinking they may need to improve their image worldwide, *ISIS* recently put their *multi-million dollar advertising account* out for creative pitch to some of Europe’s leading *Ad Agencies*.

    An anonymous spokesperson, fronting on behalf of *CEO Abu al-Bagdady*, told waiting media, “That despite a number of fab submissions, Ab’s has decided to stay with the incumbent. He felt that when you’re a head, stay a head”

    😄

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  2. Corky

     /  March 15, 2017

    Great stuff, but that would also include Christians wearing crosses. Isn’t Europe Christian?
    So, we still need to get over our embarrassment and be prepared to say “This is the West……..”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/employers-can-ban-workers-wearing-headscarves-rules-european/

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    • Missy

       /  March 15, 2017

      Snap! I posted about this in the UK/European thread. 🙂

      As to your first point Corky, the problem has been some workplaces have banned crosses, but not headscarves, so in a way this could be a good thing for all concerned as it could stop the discrimination against Christians.

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      • Corky

         /  March 15, 2017

        I can understand your reasoning, but I bet that wasn’t the courts reasoning..bet they had a Muslim backlash in mind. Muslim countries have no problems with backlashes. They dish their own out for any foolish Christians who think they have equal footing with Islam.

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      • Nelly Smickers

         /  March 15, 2017

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        • Zedd

           /  March 15, 2017

          I saw some footage of Queen Lizzie riding her horse, she was wearing a head scarf too !
          Does this mean she would be also in the ‘firing line’ to remove it (OR maybe she is a secret Muslim)? I doubt it..

          btw; I remember in 1960s it was ‘fashionable’ for western women to wear them.. not intended as an excuse to attack these women 😦

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          • Nelly Smickers

             /  March 15, 2017

            Oh for *God Sake* Zedd……don’t be such a *silly* ❗

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            • Zedd

               /  March 15, 2017

              @NS

              me being silly.. have you got a mirror ?

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  March 15, 2017

              Do you mean… *smoke* and mirrors ? o_O

  3. Corky

     /  March 15, 2017

    This will be my last post on Muslim things for awhile, least people start thinking I have a problem with Islam. The only exception will be if others post on the topic.

    At 2.37, notice this Prat who isn’t a terrorist and looks just like an ordinary Muslim. However, his eyes give him away. Common decency and letting it go this time for the sake of debate aren’t part of his vocabulary.

    Talking of eyes, I wonder if Parti has been looking into the eyes of Muslim women to see the quiet arrogance and superiority they convey ( in my opinion)?

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 15, 2017

      I see Muslim women all the time, and haven’t noticed this. I haven’t, of course, seen every Muslim woman in the world, as you must have to make such a statement. The ones I see look like the rest of us as far as expressions go. Most look pleasant, a few don’t, but that’s their problem.

      I know that the Muslim scarves aren’t a fashion item, but people don’t seem to get all excited when every second young woman seems to be wearing whatever the latest trend is and cry ‘Brain washing !’ Suits are compulsory in many workplaces, but I don’t hear squawks about that.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 15, 2017

        Both men are cracking bores, proving that being boring is international. I didn’t see anything odd about the Muslim man’s eyes. They both ramble on and on. And on. The Muslim man was obviously aware long before he began to speak himself that the other man was Israeli. he doesn’t suddenly discover this.

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        • Corky

           /  March 15, 2017

          Kitty,you either understood, or you are playing semantics.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 15, 2017

            He had obviously known for a while that the other man was Israeli, but he didn’t look like a terrorist, just a boring, rude and intolerant person, and these are found everywhere, alas. The Israeli man was not as bad, but he was also a rambling bore, much as I hate to say this of a Jew.. They were quite well matched in that way, both loving the sound of their own voices. I wouldn’t be surprised if the audience simply switched off until something more interesting came on.

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            • Corky

               /  March 15, 2017

              So he was a lying when he said he didn’t know the Jew would be part of the programme.?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 15, 2017

              He may not have done BEFORE the show, but he wouldn’t have to be a genius to work it out as he listened to the interview which I suppose that he did. The name and accent would give it away even to the dimmest, which he isn’t. As I said, I found them both verbose bores. He was also a smart-arse, the Israeli wasn’t.

            • Corky

               /  March 15, 2017

              Hence my above comment about you playing semantics.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 15, 2017

              Nonsense. He didn’t suddenly see the other man and know by looking at him, he had been listening to the conversation as people do on this sort of programme.It’s like knowing that someone called Ravinder Singh is a Sikh, you don’t need to see the turban and brown skin to work that out, especially if you’ve heard him speaking in an Indian accent.

            • Corky

               /  March 15, 2017

              Still semantics, Kitty. But fire away, I have all night.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 15, 2017

              Well, I haven’t.

  4. Zedd

     /  March 15, 2017

    I heard that details of Mr Ts revised medical policy (to replace Obamacare) has been announced: 24 million Americans in the bottom 50% will lose most of their entitlements.. meanwhile.. the Medical profession, richest millionaires/billionaires & big-pharma are all set to get huge tax cuts to ‘compensate’ them for.. ‘previous injustice’ (under Obamacare) & I thought Mr T was supposed to be IMPROVING this issue (BUT for whom) ?! 😦

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    • Corky

       /  March 15, 2017

      Give it time, Zeddy. Don’t forget all the Americans who presently find it cheaper to pay the fine for not being in Obamacare, rather than be in said scheme.

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    • Griff

       /  March 15, 2017

      . I thought Mr T was supposed to be IMPROVING this issue (BUT for whom)

      Just woken up to the fact that trump is only looking after the 1%?
      Like he has drained the swamp
      By bypassing the lobbyist and putting their paymasters in positions of power.

      It will not end well for the millions who voted for him based on nothing but bullshite and bluster.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  March 15, 2017

        Too late now, suckers.

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        • Gezza

           /  March 15, 2017

          https://mobile.twitter.com/trump_regrets
          Trump Regrets
          ‪@Trump_Regrets‬
          Retweeting everyone who regrets voting for Trump. DM if you want your tweet taken off.
          5,386 FOLLOWING251,235 FOLLOWERS

          All is not lost …

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          • Corky

             /  March 15, 2017

            Keep the faith, Gezza.

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            • Gezza

               /  March 15, 2017

              I feel very conflicted about the man Corks. On the one hand he has some good ideas & on the other he’s the biggest bullshitter ever to be elected to presidential office, ever. She’s gonna be a wild ride buddy.

            • Corky

               /  March 15, 2017

              Lol.

  5. Corky

     /  March 15, 2017

    President Trumpy probably payed them to scoot. Canada is about to rue the day they became liberal. In days past Canada was a difficult place to enter. They were very choosey.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/07/us-refugees-canada-border-trump-travel-ban

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  6. PDB

     /  March 15, 2017

    This day in music history……..the multi-talented Ry Cooder was born (1947). His biggest commercial success was a cover of this Elvis song…….

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  7. Anonymous Coward

     /  March 15, 2017

    In November 21 2015 a helicopter crashed on Fox Glacier killing 7 people, on the 26 November 2015 the Police announce all bodies have been recovered.
    http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/all-fox-glacier-crash-victims-recovered

    But .. On March 2 2017 a tramper finds human remains on the glacier that have been identified as one of the victims of the 2015 crash.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11818913

    How can that be?

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 15, 2017
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    • PDB

       /  March 15, 2017

      Seems to be a reporting error somewhere….??

      Originally it was reported they still had 4 to find: “Bad weather has halted a recovery operation for the bodies of four tourists remaining on Fox Glacier after a helicopter crash.”http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/74272467/six-foreign-tourists-killed-in-helicopter-crash-on-fox-glacier” Nov 22nd.

      Then they found only 3?

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  March 15, 2017

        That first link above is the Police announcing all bodies found.

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        • PDB

           /  March 15, 2017

          And from that link: “Police can confirm that the remaining three victims from Saturday’s helicopter crash on Fox Glacier have been recovered”

          So back to my point, the paper said there was still FOUR bodies to be found before bad weather set in………

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          • patupaiarehe

             /  March 15, 2017

            The day following the crash four bodies were recovered from the site, but operations were suspended due to worsening weather conditions. The police announced that a further attempt would be made on Wednesday that week. The area where the helicopter crashed was described as highly treacherous, uneven, and moving ice, with 20-metre crevasses. The blocks of ice were described as bigger than buildings.[5]

            The weather cleared for an hour on 25 November allowing recovery teams consisting of Police, Alpine Cliff Rescue, and drone operators to land on the glacier. The drone then filmed the site before the weather again closed in.[11][12] The remaining three bodies and most of the wreckage were recovered from the crash site on 26 November.[13]

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 15, 2017

              It must have been the bodies that were visible and could be recovered, and the reporter misunderstood ?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 15, 2017

              Six passengers, plus a pilot, equals seven Kitty. Read the links above. Someone lied then, or someone is lying now…

            • PDB

               /  March 15, 2017

              I think Kitty is suggesting the police actually meant they recovered the last 3 bodies that ‘they could find’ and the reporter misunderstood that?

              Does seem an unlikely omission however……

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  March 15, 2017

              All Fox Glacier crash victims recovered
              Thursday, 26 November 2015 – 11:47am
              Tasman
              Police can confirm that the remaining three victims from Saturday’s helicopter crash on Fox Glacier have been recovered.

              A media briefing will be held at 3pm today at the Fox Glacier Fire Station.

              end

            • Gezza

               /  March 15, 2017

              Very odd. Who else has picked up on this & is chasing it up?

          • PDB

             /  March 15, 2017

            Very, very strange….this article from earlier this month mentions the body being found as well as the 2015 air crash saying at the end: “Rescue efforts were hampered by weather on multiple occasions, but all seven bodies were eventually recovered from the glacier.”

            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/89974446/Body-found-on-Fox-Glacier-could-be-decades-old

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  8. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 15, 2017

    Anybody seen *Al* today ❓

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    • PDB

       /  March 15, 2017

      Last seen trying to clean lipstick stains from his white bathroom towels………

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      • Nelly Smickers

         /  March 15, 2017

        I meant to tell him they need to be *silk* ones….

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 15, 2017

      Out all day, just back. Old old car died and disposed of it then drove down to Whangarei and bought a new old car so back to full complement. Horses and dinner calling.

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      • PDB

         /  March 15, 2017

        So do tell………..what were you driving and what are you driving now?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 15, 2017

          Stepdaughter’s car. Was an old Rover 200. Now a not so old Peugeot 307.

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      • Gezza

         /  March 15, 2017

        Oh great great, another burned out old wreck dumped on the side of the road after everything’s been stripped out.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 15, 2017

          Nope. Sold it to a guy who makes a second income from doing up old cars.

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          • Gezza

             /  March 15, 2017

            Chop shop? Got tats?

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            • Gezza

               /  March 15, 2017

              What’ve you done with the radar detector?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 15, 2017

              Maybe. Not young though. RDs in my car and ute. Wife and stepdaughter have to be gooder than me.

            • Gezza

               /  March 15, 2017

              I’d be taking it carefully if I were you. If microwaves are involved with those things somebody might be watching you.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  March 15, 2017

              Saw a cop using a laser gun today. First time for years. Was on one of these lifetime road realignment jobs where the guys were amusing themselves trying to get a record number of cars backed up behind the lollipop men and women. Cop was aiming at a bend at the bottom of the hill on the approach. Everyone was flashing and waving down the oncoming as we went up it so I don’t think she would have hooked many victims.

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  March 15, 2017

      Not. At. All. Corky….even when we saw this on telly last night, the first thing Wayne said was, “He’s got a dial-a…”

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      • patupaiarehe

         /  March 15, 2017

        It doesn’t make you racist to assume that. Prejudiced, maybe. I saw that clip yesterday, and found it hilarious. I didn’t even notice the ethnicity of the mother, until it was pointed out by Corky.

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        • Corky

           /  March 15, 2017

          What a great person you are. I made no comment about her ethnicity.

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          • Nelly Smickers

             /  March 15, 2017

            Hey cheers Corky! I’ll let Wayne know that as soon as he gets back home.

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            • Corky

               /  March 15, 2017

              Just text Wayno his letterbox number and he’ll be back in no time.

          • patupaiarehe

             /  March 15, 2017

            @Corky
            You implied it. Don’t play ‘silly buggers’ with me, e hoa.

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            • Corky

               /  March 15, 2017

              patupaiarehe / March 15, 2017

              ‘It doesn’t make you racist to assume that. Prejudiced, maybe.’

              Silly buggers, eh hua? Lol.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  March 15, 2017

              I don’t need to be reminded about what I said, less than an hour ago, Corky. Thanks anyway 😛

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 15, 2017

          Dial a what ? Something crude, I suppose. Tell Wayne that nannies are there to mind the children, not what he thinks-or was it her race that made him think what he probably did ?

          I took her to be the nanny, not from racism or prejudice, just that people like that tend to have nannies or au pairs. And she looked so young that it was a reasonable thing to assume.

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        • Gezza

           /  March 15, 2017

          I thought she was brilliant! I loved the way she came back & closed the door. 😃

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  March 15, 2017

            That was what made me think that she was the babysitter, for some reason.

            I can’t see it as racist to think that someone who’s minding the children is a child-minder. When we can see her properly, it’s obvious that she isn’t actually that young.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 15, 2017

              But if Wayne meant that she was a prostitute, which I suspect that he does-only he’d have used a cruder word-that is racist.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  March 15, 2017

              Anywayz team, I’m out’a here! On *11-7* and been told to expect a *hectic one*….. so till next time. Byzeeeee 😄

          • Gezza

             /  March 15, 2017

            Who cares? She was fluid, efficient, didn’t interrupt the prof, got the job done, no fuss, no yelling. Lots of mums are like that. So are lots of child-minders. Does it matter?

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  9. Enjoy the cars while we can … Judging from my trip South today on SH1, 12 and Mangakahia Road … our highways may shortly become designated ‘avenues’ exclusively for truck and trailer road-freight and logging rigs … We common citizens will travel by coach or minibus … Why? Because private cars will snarl the passage of freight …

    With lading & dimension regulations expanded, and overload fines eased, brand new BIG ‘H’ rigs are tearing the highways to shreds … The extent, distance, duration and delay of roadworks was astounding … These rigs should be paying 1000 times the RUCs of a light vehicle, their ‘per pass’ equivalent … We are sure as hell going to need the money …

    The taxpayer’s gonna lose out here I reckon …

    Increased road freight, this ‘signal of economic growth’ – regardless of whether it’s new or won off KiwiRail – will no doubt create some more minimum wage employment – so many lollipop ‘boys & girls’ – but mostly the money will filter upwards to ever fewer, ever larger ‘transport & logistics’ companies …

    The whole thing’s a perfect expression of Kelsey’s FIIRE economy … Corporate influenced and possibly ‘purchased’ government policy favouring road freight over rail … Finance & Insurance industries buy or leases-out and insure the new giant rigs … Immigrant labour drives them … and in Real Estate our penchant for urban sprawl marries perfectly with our obsession with private transport …

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 15, 2017

      These are the roads the loony Left want to call the holiday highway and refuse to build. Instead they should be four lane divided so the heavy traffic doesn’t hold up all the tourist traffic. Rail is a pipe dream in sparsely populated areas.

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      • First Alan, I wasn’t advocating that rail take the place of automobile transportation … Automobiles should link us with public transport, and with freight particularly supplier to rail-head and rail-head to customer.

        Why do they call the big rigs road trains? Long haul?

        But lets talk about pipe dreams. The NZ government & local authorities can’t even keep the existing 2 lane network properly repaired! Its now being shredded even faster than increased repair efforts can cope with. Apparently its $13 million per km for the new Puhoi-to-Wellsford section …

        A 4 lane network even from Whangarei-to-Auckland is so far in the future the world’s oil might have run out by then … Meantime each extension North or South from Auckland simply moves the bottleneck further out and simultaneously extends the reach and volume of commuter traffic … further clogging the already occluded arteries of Auckland City …

        “Expect Delays”, followed by Gridlock …

        Its the Rabid Right playing a very bad joke on itself … Its an ‘economic growth’ duck and it sure as hell looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and, during duck hunting season … dies like a duck …

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  March 15, 2017

          $13M/km doesn’t look too outrageous compared with European prices I’m a bit surprised to see. Bottlenecks like Warkworth are simply shocking design. Just look at Queensland to see what good roads did for the State.

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 15, 2017

      Don’t get too excited PZ. I had a little laugh inside my head today, following a ‘Class 4’ truck to work, with an ‘H’ tag on the back, & no ‘tow coupling’ in sight… How the driver intends to put 36 tons of freight on his truck legally, is beyond my understanding….

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  10. Blazer

     /  March 15, 2017

    feelin..horny’…

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 15, 2017

      Jeezus Blazer!! That performance was nothing short of splendid! So much so, that I’m going to take back the last 5 nasty things I have said about you. Which means that I still have over 100, against you… 😀
      Take it in the spirit it is intended, e hoa…..

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