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BBC: Germany warns social media firms over illegal content

Social media firms in Germany could face fines of up to 50 million euros if they take too long to remove illegal content including fake news.

Germany’s justice minister has drafted a law that seeks to impose the fines as part of efforts to police toxic chat.

Heiko Maas said the voluntary efforts of social networks to tackle the problem had not gone far enough.

The proposal requires sites to run 24-hour helplines and to delete flagged content within seven days.

Large social networks may be able to run 24/7 help lines but it would be impractical to expect smaller sites to do this.

Social media firms such as Twitter and Facebook were getting better at handling illegal content, said Mr Maas, but both had a long way to go.

Mr Maas quoted research which suggested Twitter deletes only 1% of the hate speech it is told about by users, and Facebook, 39%.

Facebook dispute their figure but it can be slow and difficult to get content removed.

Racism and hate speech are believed to have become more prevalent on German social media following the arrival of large number of refugees in Germany.

Any content that was “clearly criminal” would have to be removed within 24 hours under conditions outlined in the draft law. If, after an investigation, content is found to be criminal then that must be removed in seven days. The people who posted the illegal content must also be told about its deletion.

The proposed law would require each network to run fully staffed, round-the-clock reporting systems and to name an individual responsible for handling complaints. That person could face an individually levied fine of five million euros if companies break laws governing what can be published.

Mr Maas said the law could apply to fake news articles if they proved to be slanderous, defamatory or libellous.

It can take months if nor years to prove things like that.

Facebook did not comment directly on the proposal but said tests it commissioned showed it removed a higher percentage of illegal content than Mr Maas claimed. The social network said it expected to have 700 people employed in Berlin by the end of 2017 overseeing its efforts to review flagged content.

That’s a lot of staff in just one country.

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  1. Missy

     /  15th March 2017

    Totally annoyed, I wrote a long post about Scotland at work and my computer crashed and I lost it all, so here is hoping I can remember the main points.

    1. As mentioned last night the EU and NATO have both said an independent Scotland will have to apply for membership as a new country. This would almost certainly mean they will have to use the Euro.

    2. After previously claiming that an Independent Scotland could ‘inherit’ the UK’s EU membership, Nicola Sturgeon today refused to say that was a possibility when asked in interviews. This has led to the Scottish Conservative Leader, Ruth Davidson, to claim that her EU plan has unravelled.

    3. Still on Ruth Davidson, she referred to some tweets by Sturgeon and said that Sturgeon had gone ‘full Donald Trump’. 😂

    The tweets referred to are:

    4. It was reported this morning that in order to win Sturgeon will need to win over several different groups not least the pro independent pro Brexit voters and the pro Remain Pro Union voters. This could be a big ask.

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  2. Missy

     /  15th March 2017

    The latest Yougov poll suggests Pro EU No voters will be unlikely to change to a yes vote, earlier this year a SNP MSP (Member Scottish Parliament) said that of the 1/3 SNP voters that voted Leave, many had indicated they would likely abstain from a second referendum. This means two groups that Sturgeon needs to change their mind – whether in favour of independence, or in favour of the EU – could have significant numbers either not changing their mind or abstaining.

    I will look at posting a link to it later, when I get home.

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  3. Missy

     /  15th March 2017

    Spain has suggested an independent Scotland would be at the back of the queue for applying to join the EU. The Foreign Minister played down the idea that Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU. This is in contrast to a spokesperson from the EU Commission who suggested a month ago that Scotland could be fast tracked into the EU.

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  4. Missy

     /  15th March 2017

    And off Scotland, a quick Brexit update.

    The Article 50 Bill has gone to Buckingham Palace for Royal Assent, it was originally reported that the Queen was going to sign it after breakfast, but that has been changed only to say the Queen will sign it in the next few days.

    The Government has taken legal advice on any legal attempts to stop or frustrate Brexit, this is pertinent as Gina Miller has threatened to take the Government to court to force a meaningful vote in Parliament on the final Brexit deal. Coincidentally she is affiliated with the Labour Party, and it was the Labour Party that tried to introduce the amendment for a meaningful vote on the final Brexit deal, if one was cynical enough they could be forgiven for thinking there is some collusion there, but I am sure there isn’t. [Tui]

    In Parliament today Kate Hoey, a Labour MP told the PM that millions of Labour voters backed her on Brexit, she was heckled by her own side!

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  5. Missy

     /  15th March 2017

    Welcome Phantom Downticker, nice to see you up so early. Now, if you have the courage perhaps you could actually debate intelligently what it is about the posts that you object to, as opposed to down ticking and running away like the bully who is afraid of being hit back.

    Just a suggestion.

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    • Missy

       /  15th March 2017

      Hahahaha… so PDT has instead found another device to downtick again instead of being brave and courageous and actually arguing the points he/she disagrees with.

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    • Corky

       /  15th March 2017

      Why is everybody worried about ticks…..don’t you have more pressing concerns? Apparently I got 16 downticks the other day.. that’s one more than15, one less than17.

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      • Gezza

         /  15th March 2017

        Stop boasting.

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        • Corky

           /  15th March 2017

          Lol..if being unpopular worried me I would be on Prozac. I think 16 downticks may be blog record.

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          • Gezza

             /  15th March 2017

            Nah Iceberg got something like 52 upticks or downticks one day last year.

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            • Anonymous Coward

               /  15th March 2017

              With a Tor browser and too much time on your hands, you can add a tick every 15-20 seconds by getting a new IP address.

            • Gezza

               /  15th March 2017

              Never heard of it before. Personally I couldn’t be bothered with installing one. Hardly ever use my lappy any more either. & My phone’s only semi-intelligent.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  15th March 2017

              As PG can confirm, I still hold the record for *most upticks* on any one post…..32 in all ❗ [and with nil downers] XD

      • Anonymous Coward

         /  15th March 2017

        On some sites, too many downticks deletes a comment, and too many downticks on too many comments deletes your account. On other sites downticks ‘hide’ the comment. On other sites downticks affect ‘reputation’ points.
        On Yournz downticks mean nothing.

        Why do people here always cry over nothing?

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        • Corky

           /  15th March 2017

          That’s interesting…so other sites use downticks to enforce consensus posting.

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          • Anonymous Coward

             /  15th March 2017

            It’s supposed to suppress trolls, but in a lot of cases it establishes and reinforces the hive-mind – and a troll becomes anyone with a dissenting opinion, rather than someone intent on disruption.
            There develops a tendency to downtick the person rather than the comment, and comments can disappear within seconds of being posted.

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        • Gezza

           /  15th March 2017

          I don’t. I take the piss.

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  8. Missy

     /  15th March 2017

    The European Court of Justice has ruled that it is legal for a workplace to ban headscarves as part of an overall policy banning religious and political symbols.

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/mar/14/employers-can-ban-staff-from-wearing-headscarves-european-court-rules

    This could be a good ruling if it sets the precedent that religious symbols can only be banned as part of a policy banning all religious symbols. In 2012 there were a couple of cases in the UK where workplaces told workers they were not allowed to wear a crucifix, but they allowed the Muslim headscarf to be worn, this was seen as discriminatory against Christians.

    Whilst this court ruling is with regards to Muslim headscarves, the principle should be applied to all outward religious symbols – they are either banned, or not. There should not be a case for one religion to be allowed the outward symbol of their faith and not another.

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  9. Nelly Smickers

     /  15th March 2017

    I will certainly be tuning in to hear to what *KTH* has to say about the pathetic UK defamation laws, that mean you dare not even hurt the feelings of some *sniveling bleeding heart libtard snowflake*.

    You *GO GIRL* we’re right behind you on this, as well as everything else you stand up for….long may you Reign ❗

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  10. Pete Kane

     /  15th March 2017

    “Dutch election will test far-right ardor in Europe”
    This will be an early test.

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    • Missy

       /  15th March 2017

      Sturgeon’s dreams of independence may have taken a blow. This morning it is being reported that she has abandoned plans to join the EU if Scotland get independence, and will work towards joining the EFTA (Economic Free Trade Area). As a member of EFTA they will be subject to the rules and regulations of the EU, but have no input to making the laws and no influence. I am sure that will be a more palatable situation for the Scots than what they have now…. then again maybe not.

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      • Missy

         /  15th March 2017

        Oops, sorry, posted that in the wrong place – obviously accidentally hit reply to Pete’s post, and didn’t realise when I posted. Only excuse is it was before my first coffee.

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  11. Pete Kane

     /  15th March 2017

    Dutch elections: Left-wing party gaining ground

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