Open Forum – Thursday

16 March 2017

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  1. lurcher1948

     /  March 16, 2017

    When flapper lips Hosking mentions (the daily beast) as real news and praises the govt for allowing foreign water removal for bottling you have to wonder who’s Mike Hoskings masters are???

    • High Flying Duck

       /  March 16, 2017

      The Daily Beast are very left leaning, but I think they tend to be factual rather than conspiricist in their reporting. The fact Hosking looks at left leaning news sources should be a good thing shouldn’t it?

    • Pickled Possum

       /  March 16, 2017

      “for allowing foreign water removal for bottling”
      there can only be one master for hosking and he wears red PJs and he has little horns coming out his head. The ultimate Loser in this game of life.

      • lurcher1948

         /  March 16, 2017

        I have horns too but mine were caused by printing solvent…

    • Corky

       /  March 16, 2017

      Lurchy, you’re being parsimonious with the truth. Hoskings highlighted the demarcation line between charging bottled water exporters and charging value added producers using water e.g. farmers.

      Son, I have to wonder who your masters are. Cleanse your soul and confess to the blog.

  2. Alan Wilkinson

     /  March 16, 2017

    How much NZ water goes out to sea every day?

    • And how many plastic water bottles …?

      Ultimately the issue is the activity of bottling water for mass marketing and mass consumption … and now air in some places apparently …

      This follows the general neoliberal trend of the private commodification of everything. I include, of course, neoliberalism’s infrastructure austerity &/or ‘outsourcing’ components – which have led to a decline in public water quality or the public’s perception of poor quality …

      Even the chronologies of (so-called) economic reform and bottled water more-or-less match … “In 1977, Perrier launched a successful advertisement campaign in the United States, heralding a rebirth in popularity for bottled water. Today, bottled water is the second most popular commercial beverage in the United States …” In other words, its Friedmachiavellian …

      The result is a fairly typical neoliberal ‘free-enterprise’ global industry based on government regulation on the one hand – consent cost only required – and apposite government lack of regulation on the other – lack of sensible social and environmental management and supervision – e.g. there’s no provision for either the communal value of natural resources or the ultimate cost of their packaging for sale and export …

      Its a bit like saying, “Water is free to everyone … Come and get ours and sell it to everyone”

      A minimal amount of minimum-wage labour – possibly immigrant – no doubt staffs the largely automated factories, and vast profits are shipped offshore along with much of the product – the success of which relies considerably on our PUBLICLY FUNDED “Clean Green” image …

      Offshore is also where the whole ‘enterprise’ can threaten to go if the regulatory environment changes … Holding the government to account? We have the audacity to call this crap things like “Fiscal Responsibility” …

      Its all very ‘pragmatic’ … and most of Aotearoa NZ’s citizens, subdued by neoliberal poverty, aspirationally stressed-out by trying to buy their first house in 24% inflation zones, or stupefied by various other forms of neoliberal gratification … either don’t know, don’t care or think its good for ‘economic growth’ … the terminal aspiration of all societies …

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  March 16, 2017

        I’m struggling to see the problem in selling stuff we have in perpetual abundance to foreigners and banking the profits and tax. No doubt the Left will invent one given time.

  3. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 16, 2017

    The fab *KTH* nails it once again…..GOD you gotta luv this girl ❗

  4. Blazer

     /  March 16, 2017

    Aucklanders implored to save water,20% is the target,whilst foreign coys export millions of litres every week.Thanks National.Oravida of course a major player,and punchin Judy a major s/h’er.

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  March 16, 2017

      Well we’ve done our bit….. Wayne just filled a *200L black poly tank* down the back of the section. He said we wont use it till they declare the shortage over.

      • NOEL

         /  March 16, 2017

        Ahhhhh not quite how they want you to react.

        These protester against exportation should focus on environmental pollution from the plastic bottles as a reason rather than the water itself.

  5. PDB

     /  March 16, 2017

    Born this day in music history (1954)……….Nancy Wilson of rock band ‘Heart’.

    She co-wrote this song……..

    • patupaiarehe

       /  March 16, 2017

      Splendid Pants. I really enjoy old music like that, when it is recorded properly. Much of it isn’t, which is why I enjoy covers. Check this one out…

      Late enough for me, Ka kite….

  6. Nelly Smickers

     /  March 16, 2017

    As Wayne sez, “It’s always the bloody same…..he’s never here when you need him” 😡

  7. lurcher1948

     /  March 16, 2017 when no one loves you here…

  8. patupaiarehe

     /  March 16, 2017

    One for Blazer…