UK v Trump on GCHQ accusation

The UK  Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament has issued a statement categorically refuting Donald Trump’s claim that the GCHQ assisted the President Obama to wiretap Donald Trump.


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17 March 2017

The Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament, the Rt. Hon. Dominic Grieve QC MP, has today issued the following statement:

The Committee is aware of the allegations that the former President of the United States, Barack Obama, tasked GCHQ to ‘wire tap’ the now President of the United States, Donald Trump, during the 2016 US Presidential election.

First, I should make clear that the President of the United States is not able to task GCHQ to intercept an individual’s communications.

Second, long-standing agreements between the Five Eyes countries means that the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand cannot ask each other to target each other’s citizens or individuals that they cannot themselves target, or in any other way seek to circumvent their own or each other’s legal and policy obligations.

Third, an individual can only be the target of interception by GCHQ under a warrant signed by a Secretary of State. Such warrants can only authorise action where it is necessary and proportionate for a valid national security purpose. It is inconceivable that those legal requirements could be met in the circumstances described.<

I note GCHQ’s public denial of the potentially damaging allegations against them. This was an unusual step by the Agency, but it clearly indicates the strength of feeling about this issue, and I echo that sentiment.

http://isc.independent.gov.uk/news-archive/17march2017


So this makes it approximately everyone denying Trump’s accusations have any basis, and Trump has come up with approximately no evidence to support his accusations.

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18 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  18th March 2017

    I don’t think the poor Presidential Press Pug will see the year out, to be honest.
    Just waiting now for Pete Kane to provide Kellyanne’s take on the latest situation.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  18th March 2017

      I would think that (apart from a physical bug-so to speak-being used) a microwave would be a poor choice for surveillance. What if people turn it off at the wall, as I usually do ? What if they replace it and give the old one to someone else whose own has just died ? What are the spies going to hear ? ‘Is three minutes enough for a potato this size ?’ ‘Blast, my coffee’s cold, I’ll give it a few seconds in the microwave.’ ‘Yes, this carrot cake was made in the microwave-I’ll give you the recipe.’ And so on.

      Ring, ring !

      ”Oh, good the new micro’s here-thank you !’ ‘Just sign here, thanks.’ ‘Thank you !’

      (rustle, rustle, creak, groans ‘Geez, they’re heavy !’, sounds of cardboard being squashed)

      ‘Hello, Jane ? Our new microwave has arrived, so you can pick up the other one any time. Oh, that’s all right, it was too big for us now.’

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  18th March 2017

        Why would a microwave have a microphone in it?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  18th March 2017

          It was being said that microwaves were being used for surveillance-yes, it really was.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  18th March 2017

          😀 Honestly, there was talk from the White House about them being used for surveillance in the way that televisions and smart phones supposedly can be !!! 😀 Need I say that it was ridiculed and that Kellyanne Conway brushed the idea aside in an interview ?

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          • Anonymous Coward

             /  18th March 2017

            Two goes and you haven’t come close to answering the question.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  19th March 2017

              Yes, I have. Kellyanne Conway said that microwaves could be used for surveillance, which they can’t be. Well, if one was bugged, it couldm but she seemed to believe that they could be used in the way that other devices can be.How much more explicit can I be without quoting her actual words ?

              If you know, why are you wasting your time and mine asking ?

              It has just occurred to me that the silly girl may be confusing microwaves (like the ones near airports) with microwave oves !!!

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  19th March 2017

              You don’t half blather do you?

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  18th March 2017

          Look it up, it’s too funny 😀

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          • Anonymous Coward

             /  18th March 2017

            You’re assuming I haven’t heard about it, and not reading the question.
            You know what they say about assumption …

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    • Pete Kane

       /  18th March 2017

      Now Now G.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  19th March 2017

        No, I don’t know what ‘they’ say about assumption, but there is a very old cliche about the word ‘assume’.

        Umption is not a word.It’s hard to see how any play on words, even a feeble one like the assume one, can be made of assumption.

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  2. Zedd

     /  18th March 2017

    methinks Mr T has taken his lead from ‘outgoing’ MP/(PM) Key.. “I know best & everyone else is just plain WRONG’ (or so he thought).. “bye bye & good riddance” 😀

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  3. Nelly Smickers

     /  18th March 2017

    *Chuck* in LA tweets….

    XD

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