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Fox News: Failed ObamaCare repeal spurs fresh round of GOP finger-pointing

Fierce finger-pointing broke out in Washington in the wake of Friday’s flameout of the GOP alternative to ObamaCare, with conservatives and moderates blaming each other, President Trump sending mixed signals as to he faulted and Democrats gloating over the law’s preservation.

Kurtz @ Fox:Mission Impossible: Why Trump’s health care compromise was never going to pass

The ObamaCare battle was Mission Impossible from the beginning, because Donald Trump ran against Republican orthodoxy on health insurance.

There was simply no way to satisfy the GOP’s most conservative wing, which wanted to junk most of ObamaCare, the center-right conservatives who don’t want millions to lose coverage or face huge rate hikes, and Trump’s own conditions.

These difficulties should have been predictable when the health care repeal was promoted as a key campaign policy.

Trump approval dipping:

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  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  28th March 2017

    XD

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  28th March 2017

      a) They won’t be waiting long

      b) The irony is you’ve pictured a whole lot of ‘dummies’ waiting to protest the actions of a man that’s got someone else’s hand up his ass.

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      • Nelly Smickers

         /  28th March 2017

        c) And I’ve found the *ideal gift* for your birthday

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      • MaureenW

         /  28th March 2017

        You do know that the Trump / Russia thing is bullshit, don’t you? Invented by the DNC, and not far off being publicly exposed. You’ll have to change your meme to a picture of yourself with the MSM’s reaches up your arse.

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  28th March 2017

          It’s currently under investigation, so we’ll wait and see eh?

          Shouldn’t you be out dishing hate on fags?

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          • MaureenW

             /  28th March 2017

            Lol .. I don’t hate fags. I do wonder about the increase of people with gender-identity issues though. I don’t envy them, I don’t applaud them – it must be an emotional struggle coming to the realisation that your sexual interests don’t match what is typical for your physical gender.
            I do think gay parades are stupid though, if that revelation gives you some ammunition, fire away.

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          • David

             /  28th March 2017

            It’s been under investigation for a long time now. Can I suggest that if you think your presidential candidate is a foreign agent, it’s a good idea to deal with it before he’s president.

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  2. David

     /  28th March 2017

    The irony here is that what Trump wants to do is essentially Obamacare but he just wants to make it work, which it doesnt, so he really needs to find some moderate Dems to get some sensible reforms done. The leadership of the Republicans and the democrats are just way to intransigent but maybe lower down the ranks there could be less partisanship.
    Trump,s base is essentially working class former Democrats. I dont hold out any hope though until Obamacare totally collapses.

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    • Griff

       /  28th March 2017

      Trump never said he was going to tweak Obama care he said he was going to repeal it.
      Obama care works it just cost to much .
      The rest of the west spend less than half what the USA spends on health care per person
      We don’t have large numbers of people dying because they can not afford health care.
      Or have health care costs the number one reason for bankruptcy.
      Just maybe the yanks should go for a system that works every where else.
      In the USA the need of the insurance industry to make a profit come before the needs of its citizens access to health care

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  28th March 2017

        “But free healthcare without the need for insurance is Communism, and if we allow that they’ll take our guns too” Say the American people. “I’d rather die young from an operable tumour than let that happen”.

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      • David

         /  28th March 2017

        “The rest of the west spend less than half what the USA spends on health care per person”

        The US spends 1.5x what the rest of the world does on education per student, yet no one seems to think this is a problem, why is it such an issue for healthcare?

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  28th March 2017

          My Daughter did an exchange year in an American High School. For the rubbish she was told, and the amount of watching movies and sleeping in class that went on, 1.5x seems way too high.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  28th March 2017

            A man I knew spent a year at an American university, and discovered too late that his health insurance had so many let-outs for the company that it was virtually useless. He was paralysed when he broke his neck in a diving accident, and even though the surgeon/s generously waived the fees when the circumstances were known, his mother still had to sell her house to pay the other costs.

            Our ACC may be flawed, but nobody would be in that situation.

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          • David

             /  28th March 2017

            “For the rubbish she was told, and the amount of watching movies and sleeping in class that went on, 1.5x seems way too high.”

            She got one the most expensive educations money can buy. You clearly valued her dearly to have invested so much in her.

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            • Anonymous Coward

               /  28th March 2017

              The schooling isn’t why you send a child on student exchange. They still have to do the whole years worth of NCEA when they get back.

              She was told by a geography teacher that she spoke remarkable english for someone from a country that speaks German, as well as a lot of quite dubious American history.

  3. duperez

     /  28th March 2017

    I suppose the military can be said to exist to look after the well-being of its people. In other words sort of a “health system.”

    In that sense I would not be surprised to hear some Team Trump spokesperson claim in profound seriousness that the benefits of their annual $600million+ military budget should actually be counted as part of their health care reforms.

    Of course my comment deserves to draw a dismissive, “Now you’re just being silly.”

    But you can picture it, eh? Spicer, Conway, an early morning tweet … not that they would ever being called for “just being silly.” 🙂

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  4. High Flying Duck

     /  28th March 2017

    Anyone who says Trump is failing needs to read this (it is obviously written by an anti-Trumper) analysis of exactly what Trump has already achieved and is putting in place:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11826787

    Highlights:

    “Despite the chaos and the growing credibility gap, Trump is systematically succeeding in his quest to “deconstruct the administrative state,

    He’s pursued the most aggressive regulatory rollback since Ronald Reagan, especially on environmental issues, with a series of bills and Executive Orders.

    He’s placed devoted ideologues into perches from which they can stop aggressively enforcing laws that conservatives don’t like.

    By not filling certain posts, he’s ensuring that certain government functions will simply not be performed.

    His budget proposal spotlighted his desire to make as much of the federal bureaucracy as possible wither on the vine.

    Trump has been using Executive Orders to tie the hands of rule makers.

    He put in place a regulatory freeze during his first hours, mandated that two regulations be repealed for every new one that goes on the books and ordered a top-to-bottom review of the government with an eye toward shrinking it….

    …Seven more bills to undo Obama regulations have passed both chambers of Congress and will soon be signed by the President…

    Sometimes who you don’t hire is just as important as who you do. Trump recently told Fox News that he will not fill all the vacancies he’s entitled to. He explained that not moving to populate the Cabinet departments is a feature, not a bug, of his Administration.

    “When I see a story about ‘Donald Trump didn’t fill hundreds and hundreds of jobs,’ it’s because, in many cases, we don’t want to fill those jobs,” the President acknowledged. “Many of those jobs I don’t want to fill.”

    Those unstaffed jobs will be chokepoints to block action by the administrative state.”

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  28th March 2017

      Remember his inauguration speech?

      “…we are transferring power from Washington, D.C. and giving it back to you, the American People…. For too long, a small group in our nation’s Capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost…. That all changes – starting right here, and right now, because this moment is your moment: it belongs to you.”

      This is the central problem for trump. Every paragraph of his speech was about redistributing power back to Americans who feel disenfranchised.

      If you have followed any coverage of his cabinet picks, this is patently untrue. I think five at the last count have walked directly from Goldman Sachs into his administration. If appointed as head of the SEC Jay Clayton will be the sixth.

      trump might not be filling all the vacancies but those that he has filled have been filled with rich, white men who are committed to stripping wealth out of the USA for themselves and their companies.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  28th March 2017

        The Herald article I posted paints a disturbing picture of protections removed, safeguards taken away and environmental sabotage.

        It could also be seen as removing blocks to prosperity and economic growth,

        Despite all the sideshows, Trump has moved with surprising pace and dexterity to put in place his administration. He has also found ways to sidestep many legislative hurdles through defunding, removing leadership and / or hiring wolves to lead the sheep (EPA I’m looking at you…)

        Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, he’s proving he’s no chump in getting things done his way. The Obamacare Act is of no importance to him in the long term as he knows it is unworkable in it’s current format. He can wait it out.

        It will be interesting to see who has underestimated who once 4 years have passed. The media seem hooked on the trivia while massive structural change with potentially huge implications on how the country is governed is being implemented under their nose.

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  28th March 2017

          “The media seem hooked on the trivia while massive structural change with potentially huge implications on how the country is governed is being implemented under their nose.”
          And yet you read this in the media?

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  28th March 2017

            Yes I did – and the article specifically calls out the media line that Trump is a failure. It points out all the policy settings already in place that have not received coverage, or have only been covered in the context of “Trump is a failure” rather than acknowledging the strategic thinking behind these choices and appointments.

            I don’t agree with the tone of the article, but I did find it interesting to read about the sheer quantity of progress that has been made since the end of January.

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            • Anonymous Coward

               /  28th March 2017

              So you read an opinion piece by a right leaning commentator from the Washington Post titled “Trump’s 100 days: How his presidency is succeeding” and see it as “call[ing] out the media line that Trump is a failure”. Possibly because you totally misinterpreted the context and meaning of the word “failure” in the by-line.

              You might need to learn a bit of critical reading skills dude.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  28th March 2017

              Hmmm, the only reference to the writer I could find noted that
              “Only in the James Hohmann’s blue-fevered mind is that 26 percent-higher figure “a little over” 100,000.” referencing his belittlement of a Republican senator’s job creation results.

              He also works at a very left leaning publication.

              So he seems to favour the Dems then…

              The article takes as a matter of faith that many accusations against Trump are correct despite not being proven and it explains Trumps “successes” in the most negative terms possible.

              If you read that article as anything remotely approaching endorsement I think you may be the one in need of critical reading skills. Dude.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  28th March 2017

              And to prove the point, here is another of his articles:

              James Hohmann:
              The sorest winner of all time cannot stop whining
              By James Hohmann The Washington Post
              First Published Jan 24 2017 04:21PM

              Somebody call the wambulance. Donald Trump needs a box of Kleenex for all the whining he’s doing.

              Just like his campaign, the first days of his presidency have been animated and defined by grievance.

              At a White House reception Monday night to discuss his 2017 agenda, Trump devoted the first 10 minutes to rehashing the 2016 campaign. The commander-in-chief told a bipartisan group of congressional leaders that between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused him to lose the popular vote.

              That is a ludicrously false claim, and this is not hyperbole: Trump is the sorest winner in American history…

              http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/4857488-155/james-hohmann-the-sorest-winner-of

            • High Flying Duck

               /  28th March 2017

              Not sure what to make of the accuracy of that link as it differs from what i have seen. I think my posts show that whatever his leanings, he is not a Trump fan which is the pertinent point.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  28th March 2017

        … Committed to stripping loony Lefty bureaucrats out of the US Govt, Joe. Watch and weep.

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  5. Zedd

     /  28th March 2017

    .. ‘& were gonna ban all Muslims & were gonna get rid of OBAMA-care’

    howz that going, all you folks on the right of Mr T ?? 😀

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    • Zedd

       /  28th March 2017

      I think removing health cover from about 26mil current insured americans, is actually not that popular with ‘middle-america’ (who perhaps voted for GOP)

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    • Zedd

       /  28th March 2017

      if he really wanted to ‘ban muslims’ he needs to be consistent, not just pick the countries that HE has no ‘interest in’ & exempt others eg El-Saud

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  28th March 2017

      Took Obama eighteen months and much bigger majorities in both the House and Senate to pass his legislation so check back in a year or two, Zedd.

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    • Nelly Smickers

       /  28th March 2017

      *Amerika New Testament*

      I am reminded of JOHN 3:16 For DOTUS so loved Amerika that he gave his only son in-law, that whoever believes in him will not perish, but will make a bloody packet

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  28th March 2017

        Nice one Nelly. Reminds me though of George Soros who made his fortune ripping off the Brit taxpayer and now funds the loony Left.

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  6. Zedd

     /  28th March 2017

    The GOP have cracked the biggest joke of 2017 ‘Trump is seriously the POTUSA’
    maybe time for them to name the real ‘Mr President’ now!

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    • I’m in Bali at the moment and surrounded by the well-intentioned liberal USA citizenry. (Don’t ask!). A group of them last night were promoting the ex FLOTUS as the saviour. I kid you not. That lovely Michell Obama. I cocked my head to the side innocently and in a break between the Adho Mukah Svanasana poses I opined that it was political dynasties, along with an archaic voting system, that delivered them Donald Trump. “How so?” they asked confused. I expounded in a lack lustre Kiwi way about their voters who didn’t want ANOTHER Clinton and stayed away. I brought up the Middle East Bush boys and even through in the Kennedys and the Jong Un family for good measure as dynastic examples. I then added that they should suck up the Trump win and treat his presidency as a catalyst for real change, show some maturity, get off his back, stop CNN doing 8 minute segments on his fear of steps, for example. Did they not think that it was time their collective hysterical response to a democratic decision was considered irrational? Surely if Trump is so incompetent, he’ll implode without their constant commentary and would they not be better channeling their chakras, I mean energy into a fight for electoral reform.

      Will I be invited back to yoga you think?

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      • Nelly Smickers

         /  28th March 2017

        You should show them this Trav…..then see if they still feel the same in the morning XD

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