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The White House is in another clash, this time with ‘sanctuary cities’.

Wikipedia describes sanctuary cities as:

…a city which permits residence by illegal immigrants to help them avoid deportation. … Approximately 300 U.S. jurisdictions, including cities, counties and states, reportedly have adopted sanctuary policies.

Washington Times: Sessions says he’ll punish sanctuaries, cities could lose billions of dollars

The Trump administration officially put sanctuary cities on notice Monday that they are violating federal laws and could lose access to billions of dollars in Justice Department grants if they continue to thwart efforts to deport illegal immigrants.

And counties and cities that have taken money in the past, despite refusing to cooperate with federal agents, could have that money clawed back, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said. That would mean Chicago, Philadelphia and other prominent sanctuaries would not only lose money going forward, but might have to pay back tens of millions of dollars from their treasuries.

But Mr. Sessions didn’t say when he would actually start withholding money, making his announcement more signal than substance.

“Countless Americans would be alive today — and countless loved ones would not be grieving today — if the policies of these sanctuary jurisdictions were ended,” Mr. Sessions said from the White House, saying the time is ripe to take action.

But mayors have responded.

Fox News: Sanctuary city mayors fire back at Trump administration’s threat to cut fed funding

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio downplayed the significance of Sessions’ message and said in his weekly television segment Sessions was more “saber-rattling.”

“If they actually act to take away our money, we’ll see them in court,” vowed New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio.

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said taking federal funding from the city would be “unconstitutional.”

“We will fight to protect the safety and dignity of all Angelenos,” Garcetti said. “We will work closely with our representatives in Congress to make sure that Los Angeles does not go without federal resources that help protect millions of people every day.”

More on sanctuary cities.

While not a technical term, “sanctuary cities” are seen as communities that have refused to work with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials after detaining illegal immigrants. By federal law, they are required to inform the feds when they have an illegal immigrant in custody, even if he or she has not been convicted of a crime.

Sessions claims ‘American people’ support but polls contradict that.

Sessions cited a report released last week by the Department of Homeland Security underscoring the message. In one recent 7-day span, there were more than 200 instances of jurisdictions refusing to honor Immigration and Customs Enforcement requests with respect to individuals charged or convicted of a crime.

“The American people are not happy with these results,” Sessions said on Monday. “They know that when cities and states refuse to help enforce immigration laws, our nation is less safe.”

But a recent Fox News Poll taken this month showed that 53 percent of voters opposed the administration’s plan to penalize cities by cutting their federal funding.

I don’t know how Sessions justifies “countless Americans would be alive today…if the policies of these sanctuary jurisdictions were ended”.

That doesn’t make sense. Ending sanctuaries now is not going to bring people back to life, even if their deaths were due to not handing over arrested immigrants to federal authorities.

This illustrates the complexities of US politics, with the White House, the Senate, Congress, states and cities all competing and clashing on policies and practices.

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  1. Gezza

     /  29th March 2017

    The latest helpful & informative tweets from THE DONALD OF THE UNITED STATES

    [45th POTUS, 1st DOTUS]
    ……..

    General Kelly is doing a great job at the border. Numbers are way down. Many are not even trying to come in anymore.
    ……..
    Why isn’t the House Intelligence Committee looking into the Bill & Hillary deal that allowed big Uranium to go to Russia, Russian speech….
    ……..
    …money to Bill, the Hillary Russian “reset,” praise of Russia by Hillary, or Podesta Russian Company. Trump Russia story is a hoax. ‪#MAGA‬!

    Attaboy. Get stuck in, laddie! Ed.
    ……..
    The Republican House Freedom Caucus was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After so many bad years they were ready for a win!
    ……..
    The Democrats will make a deal with me on healthcare as soon as ObamaCare folds – not long. Do not worry, we are in very good shape!

    Good plan. Then they’ll get more votes at the next Congressional elections! Ed.
    ……..
    Big announcement by Ford today. Major investment to be made in three Michigan plants. Car companies coming back to U.S. JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!
    ……..
    Watch ‪@foxandfriends‬ now on Podesta and Russia!

    Should be good! Ed.
    ……..

    ……..

    [Coming out swinging, as usual! Ed.]
    ……..
    More Trump tweets may possibly be found here when The Donald has some spare time: https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
    ……
    Wed 29 Mar 2017. 0600

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  2. David

     /  29th March 2017

    Illegal immigrants have and are murdering Americans, fact. Sanctuary cities wont allow ICE enforcement of deporting illegal immigrants, fact. Obama deported over 3 million people and was dubbed Deporter in Chief and he was the cause of sanctuary cities becoming so popular but I guess with Trump in charge its different now.
    Can you imagine the absurdity say of Invercargill police not allowing immigration officials to collect an over stayer they had in custody to pop them on a plane home.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  29th March 2017

      Americans have and are murdering Americans. Fact – even despite the atrocious grammar that I’ve reproduced from your drivel.

      Despite being less than 5% of the world’s population, Americans own between 35-50% of the world’s civilian-owned guns. America ranks number one in firearms per capita. The United States also has the highest homicide-by-firearm rate among the world’s most developed nations.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/01/worldwide-gun-control-policy/423711/

      The sooner that America comes to terms with the issues of gun control the better. But no amount of bloviating over illegal immigrants will address that issue.

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      • Joe Bloggs

         /  29th March 2017

        Here’s something to stir up the cultists and bloviators.

        The gist:
        while we focus on perverted interpretations of Islam to explain terrorism, a more fundamental issue is the attacker’s propensity for domestic violence and misogyny.

        – Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel killed more than 80 people after driving a truck into a crowd in Nice last year. H had a long history of domestic violence.
        – Omar Mateen killed 49 people in a Florida nightclub. “He would just come home and start beating me up because the laundry wasn’t finished, or something like that,” Mateen’s former wife Sitora Yusufiy told the Washington Post.
        – Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the Boston Marathon bomber brothers, had previously been arrested for domestic assault and battery of a woman
        – Dylann Roof, the white supremacist who killed nine people in Charleston in 2014, had an abusive father and appears to have been raised in a home where gendered control was normalised.
        – Evangelical Christian Robert Lewis Dear was so pro-life that he not only killed three people in a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado in 2015, he also had an extensive history of violence against women and domestic abuse, and an arrest for rape
        – Seung-Hui Cho, a South Korean expatriate who shot and killed 32 people at the Virginia Polytechnic Institute in 2007, had previously been charged with stalking and harassing female students.

        The simplistic explanation here is that these men were all just bad ’uns and, given they had no trouble with killing countless strangers, it is not surprising they terrorised the women in their lives.

        But this is to look at the correlation the wrong way around. Domestic violence is frequently a way for male abusers to try to impose so-called traditional gender roles on their female partner – beating them when the laundry isn’t done, telling them what to wear – using violence to validate their own feelings of insecurity.

        So it is almost inevitable that these men would then be attracted to belief systems – whether it’s Isis, evangelical Christianity or the fundamentalist version of pretty much any major religion – that advocate wildly restrictive attitudes towards gender and endorse patriarchal systems which encourage men to punish women for their own failings. . . . “Having a history of violence might help neutralise the natural barriers to committing violence.” In other words, wives and girlfriends make good target practice.

        So the writer theorises that this ain’t about perverted religion, but perverted ideas about masculinity:

        The problem isn’t Islam, or a perverted interpretation of Islam, but rather a perversion of frustrated masculinity. After all, 98% of mass killings are perpetrated by men, and many of the attackers discuss women in proprietorial terms. Roof, for instance, told his victims before killing them in the church: “You rape our women. You have to go.”

        And yet this is almost never discussed, because there is no political capital to be gained by suggesting warped masculinity might be more to blame than Muslims. After all, domestic violence is a problem that spans cultures

        and that makes it much harder to point the finger at “others”

        Trump’s approach to terrorism is – like the right wing in this country – focused on the idea that Muslims specifically are dangerous. In fact, as David Schanzer, director of the Triangle Center of Terrorism and Security, recently said: “Attacks by Muslims accounted for only one third of one percent of all murders in America last year.” Meanwhile, Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control advocacy group, analysed all the FBI data on mass shootings in the US from 2009 to 2015, and found that 16% of the attackers had previously been charged with domestic violence. And yet instead of calling out deep-rooted patterns of misogyny that might hit close to home, the right insists on looking only outwards and demonising an already demonised religion. Funny, that.

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/28/lone-attackers-domestic-violence-khalid-masood-westminster-attacks-terrorism

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  29th March 2017

        Full marks for being able to bring yourself to reproduce that awful sentence.

        There may be a few Americans killed by overstayers, but the overwhelming majority of murders there are not, as should be obvious from the numbers.

        Even if the 35% figure was the right one-well, let’s say, for argument’s sake, that even that isn’t right, and it’s only 20-25%, which I doubt-that would be a huge number of the world’s civilian-owned guns.

        The specious argument that guns don’t kill people. people kill people, is specious. Has there ever been a massacre like the one in that cinema done with a knife ?

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        • Nelly Smickers

           /  29th March 2017

          I actually keep all my *spoons* locked up……I hear they make people fat 👿

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  29th March 2017

            Some people find murder and massacres amusing. Most do not. I am one of those who don’t find them funny. The ads for that cartoon are so puerile that I can’t imagine watching the show itself.

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            • Nelly Smickers

               /  29th March 2017

              I think you might find this worth a read Catkin…..it’s on *Wayne’s Facebook Profile* as well –

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th March 2017

              That is the best reason I can imagine for not reading something.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  29th March 2017

              Don’t bother with ‘American Dad’, Kitty, ‘Family Guy’ is far better..

              As for murder & massacres, I don’t find them funny either. I just wonder why….

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th March 2017

              I won’t watch either of them. What was the one with Hank and Peggy ?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  29th March 2017

              ‘King of the hill’, Kitty…

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th March 2017

              That’s the one ! It was the only one that I ever liked.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  29th March 2017

              Just my opinion, but you need to ‘broaden your horizons’, Kitty. Try to ignore the dirty words. I suspect ‘Wayne’ will approve of this one, even if you don’t…. 😀

            • patupaiarehe

               /  29th March 2017

              You’re welcome… 😀

      • David

         /  29th March 2017

        “The United States also has the highest homicide-by-firearm rate among the world’s most developed nations.”

        Perhaps this is because the those other ‘most developed nations’ don’t have the demographic that cause the majority of US homicides by firearm.

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  3. David

     /  29th March 2017

    The jihad from the Washington Post against Trump continues with their claim that the WH stopped Sally Yates testifying to Congress then published a letter that was the total opposite of what the story claimed. More fake news, the White House doesnt care if she testifies and never has.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  29th March 2017

      Nevertheless the Justice Department said Yates could not testify freely at a congressional hearing about trump’s potential association with Russia because the topics “are likely covered by the presidential communications privilege.” Justice Department officials recommended she consult with the White House when deciding what details to disclose to the Intelligence Committee.

      Moreover Associate Deputy AG Scott Schools wrote that Yates required the consent of the White House to testify.

      The bigger issue in all of this – an issue that you seem determined to avoid mentioning – is the collusion between Devin Nunes and the White House to close down the investigation into the alleged links between trump and Russia

      The evidence is now clear that the White House and Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, have worked together to halt what was previously billed as a sweeping investigation of Russian interference in last year’s election. “We’ve been frozen,” Jim Himes, a Democratic representative from Connecticut who is a member of the Committee, said.

      The freeze started after last Monday’s hearing, where James Comey, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, revealed that the F.B.I. has been investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia since last July. Comey also said that there was no evidence to support Trump’s tweets about being wiretapped.

      Today, the House panel was scheduled to hear from three top officials who had served under the Obama Administration: Sally Yates, the former Deputy Attorney General, who briefly served as acting Attorney General, before being fired by President Trump; John Brennan, the former head of the C.I.A.; and James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence. But last week Nunes cancelled today’s hearing.

      “The Monday hearing last week was, I’m sure, not to the White House’s liking,” said Himes. “Since Monday, I’m sorry to say, the chairman has ceased to be the chairman of an investigative committee and has been running interference for the Trump White House, cancelling hearings.”

      Since then, Nunes and the White House have kicked up a cloud of peripheral issues that have distracted attention from Comey’s testimony and that of Michael Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency; Nunes and the Trump Administration have essentially shut down the investigation. Last night, Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, called for Nunes to recuse himself from the investigation. “All of this has cast such a cloud on the public perception of his impartiality that I think it would be in his interest as well as the committee’s,”

      http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-the-white-house-and-republicans-blew-up-the-house-russia-investigation

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  4. Nelly Smickers

     /  29th March 2017

    To be fair, *The Donald’s* only held the most important job in the world for 66 days ❗
    People need to cut him a bit of slack….if you think about it, he’s got a real *Tough Act*

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  29th March 2017

      Like no other president has entered the WH with a load on their plate??? Spare me the excuses Nelly.

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      • Nelly Smickers

         /  29th March 2017

        The problem is Joe….for you, I think it’s *personal* ❓

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  29th March 2017

          Nelly, you had the first bit right. The problem is Joe. That’s all.

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          • Joe Bloggs

             /  29th March 2017

            After the lame-duck efforts at disinformation that you spun last week in relation to Gorsuch and Nunes you’re hardly in a position to point the finger at others, Alan.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  29th March 2017

              Neither know nor care what you are on about, Joe. It’s probably drivel anyway.

    • duperez

       /  29th March 2017

      He probably didn’t think putting his hand up would end in this sort of trouble. Thing is this time we all saw it and may all suffer from it, not just his previous victims.

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  5. The logic of the argument being used by the Democrat members of the Intelligence committee on Nunes, if applied to Democrats, would mean they should recuse themselves owing to having adopted a fixed position on the matter without hearing all of the evidence. The committee is split along idealogical lines and the truth no longer matters.
    I have concluded that there was Obama White House knowledge of details of Trump and his transition teams conversations that had not been correctly redacted and had been illegally made available to Obama either directly or through White House intermediary staff. Regardless of the puffery and obscuration going on, that is the only logical conclusion of any merit to be drawn.

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  6. Joe Bloggs

     /  29th March 2017

    Rep. Eric Swalwell, member of the House Intelligence Committee, on the ways that Nunes has created the perception of a compromised investigation by using his security clearance to spin the trump Russia investigation:

    “This is done because the White House wanted it to be done, And this is what a cover-up to a crime looks like. We are watching it play out right now.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/eric-swalwell-devin-nunes-surveillance-white-house-trump-236577

    Nunes’ behaviour has been more like a defence attorney and his conduct has been profoundly inappropriate. He deserves a place on Comey’s list.

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  7. Joe, the obvious slant of Comey ‘s negative view of Trump et al while admitting no evidence has been found about the Russian question, while finding “nothing there” with Hilary’s and Bill’s proven financial links to Russia, shows Comey has also shot his bolt as to credibility.

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  29th March 2017

      see above. But he also played a dirty hand against Clinton 11 days before the election, so it’s quite evident he holds negative views of both camps

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  8. For those who are sceptical about my previous claims about the extent to which Trump faces an organised and Democrat-funded to attack him via the media and social media on a continuing basis I suggest they Google “David Brock and the Blue Media Plan”. In addition they should look at the nature and intent of the “American Bridge PAC”. A serious examination of the two reference area will show you the nature, extent and widespread planned anti-Trump activity aimed at destroying his Presidency by either impeachment or by defeat in 2020.
    To give you the flavour of what American Bridge is saying (very small clue) read this excerpt:

    “The Trump accountability war room will supplement American Bridge’s traditional research, communications, and rapid response operations — and the Democratic Party’s largest troves of Trump research, including 20,000 hours of video and audio — with new technology tools to hold Trump to account, beginning immediately with “an intensive effort to watchdog the Presidential transition.”

    Finally, Brock detailed American Bridge’s plans to communicate its findings to Congress — where Democratic lawmakers can use Bridge’s findings to ensure proper oversight is conducted on Trump — as well as to “the news media, progressive allies, and to the public directly, including a targeted campaign to reach Trump’s own supporters, via social media and paid advertising.”

    The Brock Blur Plan was published during the “lame duck” period of the outgoing Obama Presidency. A superficial examination of the American Bridge and Blue Plan will show a deliberate plan to monitor Trumps team during the handover period December/January and gives weight to Trump claims of surveillance. It is all there in black and white (or should that be Blue?

    See “https://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump”

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  9. Alan Wilkinson

     /  29th March 2017

    Is Ryan the problem for Trump as this article documents?

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/03/paul_ryans_catastrophic_lack_of_political_skill_and_judgment.html

    Who else have they got? (Just to preempt G)

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  29th March 2017

      You really think that Ryan’s the only problem trump has? How many others will trump blame as his presidency progresses? The buck stops with the POTUS and trump had every opportunity to engage with the Dems over his healthcare reforms but did not. That’s hardly Ryan’s doing

      Ellis’s sycophantic last paragraph pins his flag firmly to trump’s arse

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  29th March 2017

      and just to clarify, I don’t disagree that Ryan is a major thorn in the side of the Republicans, as Jeet Heer explains (I do disagree with Heer that Ryan is the real root cause of the mess though):

      During last year’s Republican primaries, Marco Rubio famously described Donald Trump as a “con artist.” But this week, with the disastrous rollout of the American Health Care Act, we’ve seen the con artist get played by an even slicker, more professional grifter. And Trump is not alone in being conned: House Speaker Paul Ryan has been fooling a lot of people for a long time, making the world believe that he’s the foremost Republican policy wonk, an expert in the fine print of budgets who could bring a much-needed seriousness to Washington. In an ideal world, the damage caused by Ryan’s role in pushing the deeply flawed AHCA won’t be limited to his relationship with Trump. This episode should strike at the real root cause of the mess: The powerful, persistent Washington myth that Ryan is a policy genius.

      https://newrepublic.com/article/141600/death-paul-ryan-policy-genius

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    • Gezza

       /  29th March 2017

      Plagiarist !

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  10. The present situation with Nunes looks to me like the Democrats are making their first moves away from the Russian allegations in order to protect the Obama myth. They will be comfortable if they can make the story of biased Republican chairmanship stick ,as it will let the Democrats be biased in their protection of the Former Secretary of Justice’s conversation with BillClinton, and the evidence of Obama’s administration reading Trump team conversations in December and January.
    It is all crap anyway, because Nunes is only one person in the committee, and the evidence he was handed in the White House grounds is available to all to see in the committee now that Nunes has briefed everybody. It really is a smoking gun, but you will see the MSM try to minimise its importance and validity. Doesn’t fool me a bit!

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  29th March 2017

      No just biassed Republican chairmanship, BJ, but hopelessly conflicted as well.

      Nunes is charged with chairing an investigation into matters involving the trump campaign and the trump transition team. But he was a member of that same transition team. So he is leading an investigation into areas where he is complicit.

      He’s claimed that he’s seen and was given evidence that seemed to validate trump’s baseless wiretapping allegations but has since acknowledged he had no such evidence.

      He’s gone to great length to say he’d visited the White House grounds, but not the White House itself, and that he didn’t believe trump or top West Wing staffers even knew he was there. That seems highly unlikely, since Nunes would have needed to be cleared into the complex — meaning that at least one senior White House staffer knew he was coming.

      Under Nunes and trump’s leadership it seems that efforts have been made to stifle the testimony of Sally Yates, and when Yates’ lawyer called their bluff, Nunes cancelled the hearings and shut Yates out.

      Nunes has spent more than a week trying to deflect attention from the FBI’s bombshell announcement that it is formally investigating the trump campaign’s ties to Russia, but he’s ended up making trump’s Russia problem even worse.

      He’s made so many missteps that he’s now facing criticism from fellow Republicans, calls that he be replaced as head of the intelligence committee, and growing pressure for an independent probe that would bypass his committee entirely.

      Biassed and hopelessly conflicted.

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      • Joe, you are reading different things to me.
        The facts as published are that Nune was shown documents in a specialised compartment reading room in the White House area designed for the Joint Intelligence Organisation by an unnamed source who obviously had White House clearance to be there and to be visited by an appropriately cleared person. So the visit had to be kosher but was clearly designed to conceal the identity of the contact else Nune met him/her in the Senate Intelligence Secure Compartment viewing facility. That indicates to me that the document (s) he was shown was SCI (Secret Compartmented Information) material that is normally SIGINT or COMINT or ELINT. What smells to me is the additional claim that the material Nune was shown was un-redacted and named US Persons or otherwise identified them. There was a further claim that no foreign persons were shown in the documents (publicly reported). That has to mean that only US persons were involved in the exchange and thus makes its collection and dissemination illegal-unless it was warranted collection for counter-intelligence purposes which is huge stretch of the imagination. The situation stinks of misuse of power by Obama’s administration, and likely Admiral Rogers is the person to clarify what happened. Its all pretty fraught stuff that is being reported.

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  11. lurcher1948

     /  29th March 2017

    Trumps making coal clean again,coals going to be clean, I DONALD TRUMP,DUFUS are going to take the BLACK out of coal.USA coal will be white as you cannot trust BLACK coal,this non white BLACK coal brings drugs into the USA,trump making the USA stupid again…

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  12. Sorry, stick brackets around (Designed for the Joint Intelligence Organisation) please.

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  13. Gezza

     /  29th March 2017

    Watch: Trump says ‘we don’t make mistakes’ – then introduces police boss by wrong name

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503076&gal_cid=1503076&gallery_id=173605

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