People angry about escalating crime

People have expressed anger over the perceived inability of the police to do anything about escalating crime in a meeting in Thames. The Deputy Prime Minister was there to get the message (hopefully).

Stuff: Paula Bennett faces angry crowd at Thames meeting

The deputy prime minister faced a hostile crowd, fed-up with escalating crime, when she visited Thames.

Paula Bennett, who is also police minister, held a public meeting on Wednesday at the Thames War Memorial Civic Centre to discuss residents’ growing concern about assaults, burglaries and drug offences in the area.

The meeting was a full-house with many voicing their frustrations and holding signs saying they had “more teeth than the NZ police”.

There must be particular problems with crimes in the Thames area.

Ordinary people emotionally expressing concerns should give Bennett a strong message.

Thames High School student Paris Lee, 17, told Bennett a friend of hers was recently hospitalised with concussion after being attacked by other students.

“Those students should not be allowed back at our school and they are and they are scaring me and my friends. We can’t do anything about being attacked at school and the police can’t do anything about it.

“It’s so wrong, we don’t feel safe and we need that, all of us.”

Her mother, Jeanette Lee, said she was planning to leave the area to keep her child safe.

“I now have to leave because my child got a text saying ‘we know where you live, you’re next’ and the police can’t do anything about it.”

That sounds bad.

They may not have been encouraged by Bennett’s response.

Bennett disagreed, saying police, the school and the community could do something about it.

“Under 17 year olds can be held to account. They can’t get away with hitting people, they can’t get away with violence,” she said.

Could do something in theory can be different to being able to do anything effective in practice.

Bennett said Paris was brave to speak out and she made time to speak to her afterwards.

“There’s no way that you shouldn’t feel safe in school . . . that is our job and we want to talk to you.”

I think that a lot of people at school and on the streets and in their homes feel unsafe. I don’t know if Bennett will have been very reassuring.

After the meeting principal Dave Sim said there had been two incidents at the school recently.

He saw the assault last week and a student had been suspended, he said.

“There were a number of staff present and we acted quickly to diffuse the situation,” he said.

The board of trustees was now considering whether the student would return to school with conditions or be excluded from the school, he said.

An attack causing concussion should have more significant consequences than suspension from school. It sounds like a serious assault that could have caused ling term brain injuries.

One woman said she could no longer live in her own home after police took 35 minutes to attend a home invasion in her house earlier this year.

“I cannot live in my own home knowing it could happen again because thirty one minutes is a long time when you live on your own as a woman. How do I deal with that?”

Bennett said that must be “absolutely terrifying” for the woman.

Yes, it would be.

The Government recently announced an increase in police numbers by about a thousand, but numbers in press releases aren’t any comfort when people face real problems and fears in their communities, schools and homes.

Also in today’s news: Whangarei teenager’s skull fractured after roadside attack

Jay Rihia-Neumann, 16, was walking home with friends after school on Monday when six adults and two teenagers got out of a car on Corks Rd in Tikipunga and attacked them.

Adults attacking kids on their way home from school.

Joshua Neumann said his son was struck on the side of the head with an axe handle during the attack, on Jay and at least one of his friends.

Mr Neumann said it was a case of his son being in the wrong place at the wrong time and he believed the attack was linked to a dispute involving a one of his friends.

The 16-year-old Kamo High School student was rushed to Whangarei Hospital before he was transported to the Auckland City Hospital where he underwent a four-hour operation on Tuesday afternoon.

More awful violence.


  1. Brown

     /  March 30, 2017

    two boys say something stupid on a weekend and mention a school and the world comes to a halt while the left feminazis rant about it yet other kids actually do something serious and injure people along with cause such local mayhem there’s a public meeting and we get virtual silence. Kids know that under 17 you have a free ride. Ferals don’t care about school so suspension is toothless.

  2. People are angry …. Yep! Sure are …

    But … and its a big BUT … Crime ISN’T escalating …

    So what’s going on?

    Well, gosh … It’s election year … and ‘groups’ are out organising meetings to influence government policy … Police-e … The “more police, more prisons” Right Brigade Lodge

    I don’t mean to denigrate the experience of those victims of crime … police may well be understaffed in NZ … Youth justice may need some reappraisal … but I do believe some of these victims are being ‘used’ for policy influence purposes they themselves may not even like if the police-e is implemented

    School violence and bullying is nothing new, it might be spilling over into the community more …? Evidence? But we know for absolute fact it is spilling over into the media via social media …

    Is this a problem that will be fixed by more police … what, prosecuting school bullies? Or by stationing security guards in schools … a recipe for escalation IMHO … give rebellious youth something more to resist …

    Maybe its a school problem … Maybe its a problem with school itself in the social media driven media-ized world?

    But mainly, its ELECTION YEAR!

    • Some people on the receiving end think it is escalating, and that’s what matters to them regardless of overall statistics.

      • Corky

         /  March 30, 2017

        Agreed. But people who don’t live in the real world, don’t usually become a crime statistic.
        They go on to comment about it being an election year ploy and a Right wing agenda to exterminate Lefties by a process of omissions..

      • PartisanZ

         /  March 30, 2017

        @ PG – “Some people on the receiving end think it is escalating, and that’s what matters to them regardless of overall statistics.”

        Does this apply to Maori who think their long-standing “receiving end” situation is not really improving … regardless of overall stats …?

        I absolutely acknowledge that some people who are directly affected by crime will want retribution and more security … I get that … in the same way some people who were and are directly affected by colonisation want more restitution …

        Why do wealthy people who can afford high-security seem to always fall into this category?

        Where is the “less poverty, less crime” lobby?

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  March 30, 2017

      Sorry Parti – but like *sooo* many people…..

      • Corky

         /  March 30, 2017

        And they wonder why they are always Rogered.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  March 30, 2017

      Best way to fix it is to enforce real reparations on the offenders. Punishment is a waste of time and mostly counterproductive.

      • PartisanZ

         /  March 30, 2017

        Not a first Alan … but I tend to agree … reparations in money, or possibly in work or ‘kind’ in some cases, would give some crims – not all – an idea of what suffering their behaviour causes … its a kind of “empathy opportunity” … (and I know that sounds very PC) … but as you say … the crime and punishment model (especially for property crime) is long past its use-by date … especially minor offences by young people … which should be a chance for education, behaviour modification and alternative engagement …

        This year’s general election is looking like it may be dominated by this crime issue … somewhat unreal though it is … in a bizarre kind of inverse ‘race card’ …

        I don’t understand people who wanna live in a country like that with “more police, more prisons” …

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 30, 2017

          There’s no such thing as inverse rac(ism)

          • Gezza

             /  March 30, 2017

            Well, there is really. It’s common usage term used to refer to people who consider that only white people can be racists & who are themselves clearly racially or culturally prejudiced against white people. 😕

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  March 30, 2017

              Racial prejudice is racism-the terms inverse/reverse racism are wrongly used.

            • Gezza

               /  March 30, 2017

              Righto. Tell somebody to put a stop to it immediately. It’s happening all over the place.

          • You are correct Miss Kitty … Anyhow, I really meant to say ‘crime’ is being used as a kind of derivative ‘race card’ …

    • lurcher1948

       /  March 30, 2017

      FAKE NEWS,FAKE NEWS wait for national to say it was worse under labour but great effort
      PartisanZ,Billy who is VERY cautious and doesn’t see a problem would be proud of you….

  3. Blazer

     /  March 30, 2017

    didn’t National recently say they aim to make NZ crime free by 2095.

    • Gezza

       /  March 30, 2017

      Do you got a link or are you just makin shit up (as they say in Trumpland) ? 😀

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  March 30, 2017

      No. That was Labour.

      • Gezza

         /  March 30, 2017

        Well, could be I suppose … they want so many other things to be free – but wanting NZ crime to be free as well is just going way over the top imo. Not a vote-winner, I reckon. 😳

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  March 30, 2017

          I think that Blazer was trying to be funny, and was as successful as he usually is.

          • Gezza

             /  March 30, 2017

            Oh well you know me. Sometimes I take things too larerally. 😎

          • Blazer

             /  March 30, 2017

            I wonder the same about the Natz,whether they are taking the…piss.

            • Gezza

               /  March 30, 2017

              Could be. A few of them look like boozers.

  4. Zedd

     /  March 30, 2017

    if they stop wasting $400millions on weedy war, they could actually focus on real crime.. but hey dont listen to the loony left

    • Not only that Zedd, they could probably make $400million in taxes on a regulated weedy market … and have $800million to focus on other crime …

      Some of our wayward youth would find legitimate employment in this industry … another big plus …

      It would be a great economic boost for the very areas suffering all this media-ized, sensationalist ‘depression’ … the Far North, East Coast and West Coast particularly …

      It would almost certainly boost tourism …

      Aside from removing the motivation for most if not all cannabis crime – it being the illegality of dope – ancillary effects might even include a reduction in domestic violence … as people mellow out a bit …?

      Oh darn … I forgot … I’m a loony leftie … I’ve just reiterated all the reasons for Righties to leave things as they are … Sooner the established ‘money-go-round’ (crime & punishment) than a new, exciting, innovative, beneficial, alternative one …

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