Nutrition Finance and Government

By Duncan from Sustainable Life NZ

A glance at Nutrition Finance and Government.

As well as regenerating the degraded ecosystems of the world we also need to regenerate the health of the human genome. To understand nutrition today you almost need to be a biochemist It wasn’t always like that.

To achieve regenerating or at least trying to protect the human genome as a species there are many things we have to understand and accomplish, but you can make a difference the moment you choose to wake up. We have been indoctrinated into social systems with diets that favour the acidic spectrum. Any food that is acidic, contains the chemical binding agent starch. Any food that was made by nature, has a complete molecular structure, made by nature, no starch(or less), instead natural enzymes are present. Genetically modified foods are genetically modifying animals and us!

On one level our bodies are electro chemical entities, as such we require a certain electro chemical coherence to efficiently operate mentally, physically and emotionally. Natural alkaline food is bioelectric. There are states of energy within food, dead or alive, distorted or natural, and natural food plays a role in supporting immunity. Part of this immunity is combatting mucous and preventing further inflammation at an intracellular level.

So personally what can you do? Switching to a 70+%alkaline 30-%acid diet including large servings of leafy greens, and a nutrient dense Base Element diet, consisting of a delicious variety of natural foods will provide numerous wonderful health benifits! Detoxifying your body and ridding yourself of as much of the distorted information as you can will allow you to operate more efficiently and decisively. All this is important if you wish to have more clarity and longevity.

Also if you are able to produce your own renewable organic produce or even just purchase from organic local suppliers you will; reduce your waste contribution, not support corporations that put profits over people and environments, grow the industry of local organic produce which arguable has more transparency, improve your health, and potentially provide food security through sustainable organic home production! So while there are a myriad of problems if we can begin to understand the problems we can start working towards effective solutions.

Part of the problem here, is the elite agenda for a hostile corporate takeover of the biosphere. There is a systematic poisoning of the human genome AND the earths ecology. World banks, the federal reserve, International law, world conflict, media, the W.H.O, the U.N, the W.T.O, the industrial military complex and a web of transnational corporations are coercing to centralise control of all W.T.O countries, New Zealand included. Part of the agenda is to use the highly effective control mechanism of money to further instigate the economic slavery of individuals and remove the sovereignty of nations furthering the dissolution of democracy. In part, effectively creating a corporate global agricultural control grid.

We can made a difference! Money is an illusion. I call it creative wealth. Think of it like this, you reside on the earth, you want to build a house build anything physical, you need produce from your environment. So effectively you are not creating anything new you are manipulating products of the environments natural capital into a more effective use. With money, you are creating something from the non physical because you have bestowed a concept, a set of rules. It is an illusion! Nature doesn’t follow our rules! The Federal Reserve itself which controls the supply and production of money isn’t government owned but owned by a private entity! This technocratic, globalist agenda uses money and control of natural resources to manipulate people and nations, we can use their weapons against them! Create our own resource security and nationalise our assets, whilst boycotting corporations! These systems are the real terrorists, they just hide behind suits and logos.

The point is, the deception of our perceptions that we have undergone requires us to stay blind and adhere to the social norms and control structures that exist in place, so the agenda can be implemented. Through corporate control and deception of our perceptions, almost anything can be instigated, effectively with human ‘permission’.

We need to reclaim our political system. I don’t have all the answers, but I know it can be achieved. We are facing an election in NZ and I’m buggered if I know of any political party that does represent us and isn’t already in the pocket of corporate interests with a healthy amount of conflict of interests (or is controlled opposition). The whole political system has been manufactured to only advance those who don’t make a lot of noise, and are not policy based. The legalised bribery that is campaign contributions needs to end. Otherwise this dissolution of democracy and oppression of rights will continue. Instead of supporting parties support social movements or people with policy that makes sense.

Get engaged! If you can do your own research do so. While the government has you focused on terrorism and whatever other constructed issue, things are being implemented behind the scenes!

If we can’t rely on ‘our leaders’ to represent us we need to represent ourselves, more than a revolution we need an evolution of thought. Much love

People, ecosystems and future generations

OVER

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115 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  April 13, 2017

    It starts with removing superphosphate from our food chain. If it must be used it should be spread at a ratio of 50/50 with dolomite.Phosphate overload is a danger to human health.
    New Zealanders receive far too much in our diet and it shows with our cancer rates.

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    • Trumpenreich

       /  April 13, 2017

      Do you consider your self to be in great shape – I’m kind of tired of and cynical about all these alternative types banging on about their “healthy” lifestyle when they look scrawny, dehydrated and like death warmed up.

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      • Corky

         /  April 13, 2017

        I cant disagree with you. I get tired of them too. In fact UK osteopaths have just come out and warned that people who are cutting out dairy and gluten are setting themselves up for weak bones and arthritis later in life. I stick to things I have researched, and most importantly of all, above scientific inquiry- personal observation.

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    • Duncan Cameron

       /  April 13, 2017

      Yes. Purchasing inorganic compounds also fuels the monopolisation of the U.S agricultural market, bio engineering and the destruction of environments. Glyphosate is another notable concern. Especially considering that 96% of US grown corn is now corporately owned and genetically modified to be glyphosate resistant. So they can directly spray this herbicide onto the whole crop to kill unwanted species whilst the corn survives. Creating a GM product that is not only less nutritionally valuable but is know laced with a known cancer causing substance.

      Foods to avoid (where possible) that favour the acidic spectrum; refined sugars, high fructose corn syrup, industrialised dairy products, all GE containing foods (mainly U.S grown corn and soy containing products) meat, tobacco, animal products, canola, alcohol.

      Corporations to avoid; Mainstream media,
      offshore banks, Nescafé, Dole(bananas), Bayer, Streets, Monsanto(aspartamine/GE/monopolisation), Chevron, Shell, ExxonMobile(Mobil), BP, Wrigleys, Ferraro, McCain, most multinational fast food corporations.

      Also note when purchasing organic produced that is labled with a code, to my knowledge of it starts with
      9-it’s grown organically,
      4-traditional agriculture methods(pesticides etc)
      3-genetically engineered and traditional agricultural methods.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  April 13, 2017

        Have you managed to find products for sale in New Zealand that are made with High Fructose Corn Syrup?
        I would love to boycott them, but their unavailability is hampering my efforts.

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        • Duncan Cameron

           /  April 13, 2017

          Burger King and McDonalds sauces and Sunday’s… Potentially some energy drinks and soft drinks. I have been doing some reaserch into issues such as this myself and hopefully I will be able to release better lists of corporations and products to avoid.

          The idea for my page, and my ‘activism’ is to grow the debate. Raise awareness. Ask the hard questions. Stand up for humanity and to appear the corporatisation of life, governments and the biosphere.

          Im just trying to facilitate a growth in my own conciousness, and the awareness of others, in an effort to unite us under a common goal.

          I want change, and no political party represents me or offers real change.

          So it’s time for the power they have taken from the people, to return to the people. For we thought we lost it, but we were simply decieved. We have had it all alone.

          Peace.

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          • Anonymous Coward

             /  April 13, 2017

            What you’re going to find is that almost none of the terrible things you read about American food happen here. Our fizzy drinks are made with sugar cane, our beef is grass fed (some exceptions there, notably in the Hawkes Bay and Otago), our farm are not monocultures, and our tomatoes aren’t being grown by enslaved illegal immigrants.

            I believe that the chemtrail gasses are depleted by time the HAARP planes make it to NZ skies too.

            Though you are right about on thing: the only HFCS in NZ is in the imported sauce sachets at McDonalds.

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        • Blazer

           /  April 13, 2017

          try hydrogenated ..fats..then.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  April 13, 2017

        ” Especially considering that 96% of US grown corn is now corporately owned and genetically modified to be glyphosate resistant.”

        Have you got a citation for that figure? Because according to the latest figures from the USDA the figure is not that high.
        https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/adoption-of-genetically-engineered-crops-in-the-us/recent-trends-in-ge-adoption.aspx

        Also bear in mind that there are two distinct corn crops in the US, sweet corn and feed corn.
        The GM % for sweet corn (that which is sold for direct human consumption) is as low as 3-4%.

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      • David

         /  April 13, 2017

        ” Chevron, Shell, ExxonMobile(Mobil), BP”

        How do you avoid these companies? The result of their output will be everything from the asphalt on the roads you travel, to the casing of the PC’s you use to the fuel in any transport you use.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  April 13, 2017

      Nonsense. Our cancer rates have more to do with the predominance of processed foods in the modern diet than bird shit dropped on a livestock farm from a Cessna 180

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  2. Trumpenreich

     /  April 13, 2017

    This is wrong on so many levels I don’t no where to begin even.

    But this bit made me laugh the hardest:

    ” Money is an illusion.”

    No kidding, genius, that’s the whole point, its not some conspiratorial tool, its an agreement on value, and a very effective tool as long as those using don’t forget that it is in the manner of a working illusion.

    Go live in a society that only barters, most people would not enjoy the dramatic drop in their standard of living.

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    • Duncan Cameron

       /  April 13, 2017

      That’s your opinion. I’m willing to live simply, so others can simply live. What I am trying to wake most people up to is financial terrorism and the privately owned nature of the FED. I also want people to realise we need to invest in the natural capital of the earth and create abundance by developing food security through rebuilding degenerated ecosystems and creating ‘food scapes’ instead of just urban industialisation.

      Feel free to disagree, that’s your right.
      Thanks.

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      • Trumpenreich

         /  April 13, 2017

        Its not “opinion” that societies that have not developed a monetary system are WAY less developed – subsistence $2 a day GDP per capita stuff.

        Yes I agree the fictionalization ( FIRE ) of the economy is a disaster. That is why Trump got voted in by a populist tsunami.

        You must understand the level of propaganda and pressure the globalists are applying to destroy Trump.

        Urban centers are great, much higher standard of living, employment/career opportunities, playgrounds – Adele concerts, roller coaster rides, festivals etc etc:

        More Urbanisation please!

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      • One of a kind

         /  April 13, 2017

        What relevance does the US Federal Reserve have to NZ?

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        • Blazer

           /  April 13, 2017

          where do you think the National govt borrowed $100,000000,000000…from?

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    • Blazer

       /  April 13, 2017

      ‘No kidding, genius, that’s the whole point, its not some conspiratorial tool, its an agreement on value, and a very effective tool as long as those using don’t forget that it is in the manner of a working illusion……why is it O.K for the Fed to ‘print’ it and selectively distribute it then?And as an aside, when the Greens suggest Q.E,they are labelled …’barking mad’.

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      • David

         /  April 13, 2017

        “why is it O.K for the Fed to ‘print’ it and selectively distribute it then?”

        Because it works.

        “And as an aside, when the Greens suggest Q.E,they are labelled …’barking mad’.”

        Because what the Greens suggest is not QE at all, it’s simply cash printing for expendature. The two things have very different impacts on an economy. Zimbabwe tried the Green’s policy, so you can simply observe the outcome in real life.

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        • Blazer

           /  April 13, 2017

          they are one and the same…’because it works’….trite justification….the U.S dollar is the default currency for world trade ,enforced by U.S military…might.

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  3. Trumpenreich

     /  April 13, 2017

    “We need to reclaim our political system. ”

    Seriously, we have a great political system. Every morning when you wake up you should be down on the ground thanking the gods you live in NZ and not under a political system like the ones found in China or Zimbabwe or Nicaragua – basically any non white majority country.

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    • Duncan Cameron

       /  April 13, 2017

      I strongly disagree that our political system is a great one. our elected officials don’t own represent us. The main two parties are funded by the same industries and corporate interests. Legalised bribery in the form of campaign contributions exist to divert political power from the people to corporate powers.

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      • Trumpenreich

         /  April 13, 2017

        Sorry to burst your bubble but democracy isn’t about creating utopia where there zero corruption or whatever.

        If Labour is funded by the same sources as National, why are they so broke?

        Yes our MPs do represent us, maybe you should go and live in a Muslim majority country, or any non white majority country for that matter to get a real feel for what it is like to live in non democratic society. You would then appreciate and actually be proud of what your fellow NZers have achieved here instead of always being so negative and ungrateful.

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        • Duncan Cameron

           /  April 13, 2017

          We are talking on a world stage here. NZ follows sheepishly in the footsteps of Britain and the U.S. The U.S is housing an agenda to destabilise all developing countries while effectively purchasing national sovereignty from countries worldwide. Feel free to check out the Facebook thread. Thanks.

          I live NZ, this is my home. I just oppose the corporatocracy and crony capitalist consumerist navigation of our species.

          Dude trying to argue about world matters in the thread of a comment section is hopeless. Message me at thesecularkiwi@gmail.com and I can provide you with phone number.

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      • @ Duncan – “I strongly disagree that our political system is a great one.”

        That’s not the Rightie’s point Duncan. Ours is better than the very worst political system in the world … therefore you should grovel down and idolize it … This is known as a completely ludicrous and utterly absurd logical fallacy …

        It’s like saying that Allied POWs should have thanked the Japanese for ONLY starving and beating them because their captors DIDN’T kill them …

        You SHOULD be grateful … Don’t you see that BOY!

        Hey … Keep up the good work MAN … and I don’t mean because you’re right and they’re wrong … but because these sorts of discussions are well worth having … and important …

        Incidentally, another such fallacy, providing simultaneous evidence of the pervasive power of money, is this “societies that have not developed a monetary system are WAY less developed – subsistence $2 a day GDP per capita stuff” … stuff-n-nonsense …

        Clearly there were money-less systems where all the basic needs of the population were met in a variety of different ways. These only become “way less developed” when moneyed-system measurements are applied to them … like “they can’t possibly be developed if they don’t have refrigerators” …

        One day, of course, there will be a measurement of some sort that places a value of some sort on NOT NEEDING A REFRIGERATOR …?

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        • Corky

           /  April 13, 2017

          Thanks, but no thanks…I will take our money system and it benefits and negatives anytime over eating huhu bugs and not wearing Jockeys.

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        • Trumpenreich

           /  April 13, 2017

          ” Ours is better than the very worst political system in the world … therefore you should grovel down and idolize it … This is known as a completely ludicrous and utterly absurd logical fallacy …”

          ^ This is known as a completely ludicrous strawman.

          It is your socialist ideology that makes you hate NZ so much and the USA even more. After all it is the USA with a strong capitalist democractic history which held out against the evil Socialist revolution that swept the poor unfortunates of the Soviet bloc with the industrial scale mass murder, oppression, poverty that are the inevitable result of anti capitalist collectivism.

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  4. High Flying Duck

     /  April 13, 2017

    I think someone has taken the Red pill…maybe too many times.

    Money is simply an effective portable means of enabling efficient barter for goods. Yes it has been manipulated but at it’s core it remains the same.

    The mass conspiracy theories this author espouses implies levels of intelligence and control that are simply not possible, and which serve no purpose.

    Organic food has not been proven to be any healthier than mass produced crops which, lower the cost of food and improve yields significantly.

    Eat better by all means, and avoid unhealthy options – the market will adjust accordingly as it is already with cleaner farming practices, more free range eggs, improved fertilisation and pest control methods etc.

    Are things perfect? Not by any means. Are they getting better? Definitely.

    But the call to go back to an agrarian, vege garden in every back yard utopia is misguided.

    Variety is improving, options abound. We are not all being shepherded into eating Monsanto(TM) products.

    And importantly views on nutrition have evolved significantly in recent times with long held dogma being challenged and replaced where the research warrants it.

    I think the writer ascribes conspiracy where the reality is group think and ignorance.

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  5. HFD. Here Sir, in your excellent retort, is the essence of where DC’s arguments, (which have some valid arguments to consider) gets things most fundamentally wrong.

    “The mass conspiracy theories this author espouses implies levels of intelligence and control that are simply not possible, and which serve no purpose.”

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    • Duncan Cameron

       /  April 13, 2017

      Just because you can’t see something, doesn’t mean it’s not there. Your reality, is based on the way you perceive it. If your understanding of the nature of reality is built on a fundamental flaw, that flaw will manifest distortions I’ll all corners of its appearance.

      You have been lied to from birth. Indoctrinated into a system
      That wants you to work, buy, consume and die. Not to be a free thinker. Not to think creatively of to question. The control the curriculum and the flow of information. What do you control? I control my own mind.

      You have been taught to think truth comes from authority.

      Taught to identify with your values, beliefs and your body.

      I identify with the collective. If you don’t want to work to improve the living conditions off all on earth, things are really good where you have them now, congratulations, that’s the blue pill you have taken.

      I’m prepared to stand in the face of adversity. This is the realm of ideas and you do little to joust with me, your thoughts are vague and distorted. Have you built walls in your mind brothers?

      I will walk this road alone in spite of condemnation, for it is the right thing to do.

      People are waking up. To you I should be a symbol of this.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  April 13, 2017

        “To you I should be a symbol of this.”

        You seem to be a symbol of what happens to a young, high school educated mind when it collides with the kooks of youtube and mushroom season in the Takaka Hills.
        I don’t know why Pete is putting your rants up here, but you’ve got to accept that we’ve all been brought up with these conspiracy theories, and they may have once seemed plausible, but now they are out of control and you’ve been sucked in.

        The earth is too flat for this nonsense.

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        • Duncan Cameron

           /  April 13, 2017

          I recently visited the region to study the growth in locally produced and shared organic produce. I have a lot of respect for the people of takaka. Don’t see how dehumanising people in regards to drugs that can offer great medicinal benifits to people is enlightened speak… But thanks nonetheless.

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          • One of a kind

             /  April 13, 2017

            It seems that taking drugs doesn’t improve your ability to write in English.

            Duncan, do you have a cousin/Uncle called Phil Ure?

            Your writing is eerily similar to his minus the full stops.

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        • Kevin

           /  April 13, 2017

          “You seem to be a symbol of what happens to a young, high school educated mind when it collides with the kooks of youtube and mushroom season in the Takaka Hills.”

          If I could I would buy that sentence from you for a million dollars.

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        • “I don’t know why Pete is putting your rants up here”

          As I’ve explained a number of times, one of the primary aims of Your NZ is to give voice to many views and topics. And I give him as much right to ‘rant’ here as you do.

          I happen to think that sustainability is a very important issue for New Zealand and for the world. If we don’t get much closer to a self sustaining society and environment then Earth’s future is stuffed. The deterioration of waterways in New Zealand in our lifetime is just one example.

          Duncan’s posts have provoked debate but that is a good indication his posts are worth having as a part of the mix.

          I note that you have posted 14 comments here so far, about a fifth of the total number of comments. You may not agree with everything Duncan has said, but he has attracted your interest. That’s what Your NZ is for.

          If I shut out everything that someone else considered a rant there would be little comment here.

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  April 13, 2017

      Thanks Trav.
      I should have also mentioned that there may be genuine concerns with trademarking of food types, although as long as heirloom and “generic” varieties exist and are freely available I’m not sure I see any issue. It is where people get sued for natural spread of protected varieties that things get messy.

      Monsanto is tagged as the devil by some, but NZ has extensive IP in cattle breeds, Kiwifruit varieties, apples etc which provide huge export returns. How is this different?

      GM foods I’m on the fence on. Basically all foods have been modified over time and bear little resemblance to historical varieties. Some for the better, some worse. New methods allow more radical modification and there are definitely risks. But benefits may outweigh them. Personally I prefer “natural” where possible.

      Unfortunately adding in conspiracy theory elements devalues the rest of the debate.

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      • Duncan Cameron

         /  April 13, 2017

        Thanks, your opinion. On the page I have a more in depth article about agricultural global control which to me is far more concerning than genetically modifying crops. You control oil, you control nations, control food you control the people and if you control money, you control the world.

        Good day sir.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  April 13, 2017

        “NZ has extensive IP in cattle breeds, Kiwifruit varieties, apples etc which provide huge export returns. How is this different?”

        Fruit doesn’t grow ‘to type’ from seed, (so every seed inside a ‘branded’ apple will grow a different tree, with fruit almost guaranteed to be awful), so to propagate a branded apple you need to graft a cutting on to root stock.
        To get ‘branded cattle’ you need a mating pair.

        In short the difference is that none of these things can be carried on the wind.

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        • High Flying Duck

           /  April 13, 2017

          I did mention that the prosecution of natural spread of protected crops was an issue – but well clarified thanks AC.

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    • Blazer

       /  April 13, 2017

      ‘The mass conspiracy theories this author espouses implies levels of intelligence and control that are simply not possible, and which serve no purpose.”…..no it does not imply those things at all.Where do people get their information?What exactly is the ‘average’ intellect and what concerns the average debt slave?The purpose is to maintain the status quo….enriching the few at the expense of the ..majority.

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      • Corky

         /  April 13, 2017

        True..but its good piss taking. Play along…..phosphate,old chap?

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    • Blazer

       /  April 13, 2017

      when the ‘man in the street’ gets his head around this…things will change…

      ‘Most people believe, and it is a belief assiduously promoted by the banks themselves, that the banks act as intermediaries between those wishing to save and those wishing to borrow, usually on mortgage.

      On this view, the banks are benefactors, bringing together those with money to spare and to deposit with them, and those who wish to borrow, often for house purchase.

      The banks make their money, so it is said, by charging a higher rate of interest to the borrowers than they pay to the depositors, the equivalent of a small fee for the administrative costs of bringing the parties together.

      But this benign view of their operations is inaccurate and misleading. The banks do not lend you on mortgage money deposited with them by someone else.

      They lend you money that they themselves create out of nothing, through the stroke of a pen or, today, a computer entry.

      The banks make their money, in other words, by charging interest on money that they themselves create. Not surprisingly, they are keen to lend as much as possible.’Bryan Gould.

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      • Duncan Cameron

         /  April 13, 2017

        Correct. Junk bonds. It’s verging on economic slavery. I say nationalise the banks. Money will have a whole new capability. The market will crash soon, that’s likely when we will have our best chance.

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  6. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  April 13, 2017

    There was a time when my ancestors on the Western Isles of Scotland lived and farmed in a manner that used no nasty synthetic chemicals. Then some fungal spores blew over the sea from Ireland and life was never the same again on those islands.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Potato_Famine

    A grand organic experiment that resulted in starvation, death and colonisation of lands far away.

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  7. Kevin

     /  April 13, 2017

    1. Are you seriously arguing against GM food even though it has saved millions of lives?
    2. Most people can’t tell the difference between organic and inorganic food.

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  April 13, 2017

      Which of these vegetables are Organic and which are inorganic?

      I can tell the difference.

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    • Duncan Cameron

       /  April 13, 2017

      There are a billion people starving on the planet right now. Over %80 of the grain we produce is fed to livestock. Why feed the starving,
      You can’t profit off them.

      Gm crops produce less nutritionally valuable smaller yielding crops which often have the zombie gene which prevents them from translocation and producing seed. So you are perpetually going back to the GM seed supplier for crops. The seed suppliers are owned by corporates such as Monsanto.

      These corparates have no regard for
      Human health, the starving, or ecosystems.
      It’s about dominance not sustaining humanity.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  April 13, 2017

        “zombie gene” … it gets worse. GMO’s are going to kickstart the Zombie Apocalypse.

        https://cmdrysdale.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/could-genetic-engineering-create-a-zombie-apocalypse/

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        • Duncan Cameron

           /  April 13, 2017

          I am reffering to the ‘terminator’ gene,
          brother.

          https://nature.berkeley.edu/srr/Alliance/novartis/sterile.htm

          The Rural Advancement Foundation International (RAFI), a Canadian-based rural advocacy organization, announced today that it has uncovered over three dozen new patents describing a wide range of techniques that can be used for the genetic sterilization of plants and seeds. “The patents reveal that engineered seed sterility is not an isolated research agenda – it’s the Holy Grail of the ag biotech industry,” says Pat Mooney of RAFI. The disclosure follows on the heels of a controversial patent unveiled last year, christened the “Terminator” by RAFI, that continues to generate worldwide protest and debate because it renders farm-saved seed sterile – forcing farmers to return to the commercial seed market every year. The Terminator patent is jointly owned by the US Department of Agriculture and a Monsanto subsidiary, Delta & Pine Land Co.

          “The notorious Terminator patent is just the tip of the iceberg,” explains RAFI’s Mooney, “Every major seed and agrochemical enterprise is developing its own version of suicide seeds,” he adds.

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          • Anonymous Coward

             /  April 13, 2017

            A) I’m not your brother, and

            B) When communicating your ideas it is a good idea to use the proper names for things and not make up your own. Your credibility is on thin enough ice as it is. If we take you on faith and search for “GM Zombie Gene”, we stumble on your comrades who believe that GM will spark the zombie hordes.

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            • Duncan Cameron

               /  April 13, 2017

              I have provided contact details if you really wish to
              Engage me
              In a serious discussion.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  April 13, 2017

              I don’t. I can’t think of anything worse.

              But if you can’t engage with people here, then stop putting your rubbish here.

          • Maggy Wassilieff

             /  April 13, 2017

            Can you give me one example of where an agricultural company has released plants carrying terminator genes into commercial cropland?

            Clues:
            1. Check out RAFI website and do a search for terminator gene or sterile seed.
            2. Check out the myth that Monsanto sells terminator gene seeds
            http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/pages/terminator-seeds.aspx

            You seem to be citing information that was out-of-date 20 years ago.

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            • Duncan Cameron

               /  April 14, 2017

              Correct, the terminator gene has never been commercialised. My concern is more based in the USDA’s 90 day FDA trial period being insufficient, not enough testing being done. The monopolisation of the industry and the rampant pollution and neglect for the consumer. I believe Bayer-Monsanto are conducting a hostile takeover of the agricultural production industry. With a monopoly they can stifle competition. This effects the consumer.

              In the current climate where corporations put people and environments last and profit first, this concerns me.

      • Kevin

         /  April 13, 2017

        There are a billion people starving on the planet right now ..

        – A wild exaggeration but ok.

        Over %80 of the grain we produce is fed to livestock.

        – those people are starving due to bad government *cough* socialism *cough* and mismanagement

        Gm crops produce less nutritionally valuable smaller yielding crops …

        – Wrong.

        which often have the zombie gene which prevents them from translocation and producing seed.

        – It’s called protecting your intellectual property. Otherwise why invest millions of dollars in developing superior seeds if someone can just steal them from you?

        So you are perpetually going back to the GM seed supplier for crops. The seed suppliers are owned by corporates such as Monsanto.

        – Well if you don’t want to use Monsanto seeds then just stick to the free ones, you know, the ones that “produce [more] nutritionally valuable [larger] yielding crops”.

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      • One of a kind

         /  April 13, 2017

        Zombie gene? Fascinating. DC is like having April Fools all year round.

        What next? Transformer petrol? Turns your Mazda Familia into a mechanical robot with human awareness.

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  8. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 13, 2017

    Even when they say it to your face, admit there is an agenda. Some of you still simply don’t comprehend the deception. As Donald Trump would say, “…SAD”.

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  9. Kevin

     /  April 13, 2017

    World’s most perfect food:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10210327/McDouble-is-cheapest-and-most-nutritious-food-in-human-history.html

    Forget sending food aid to poor countries. Open a Macca there instead!

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    • Michael Kendrick (Biochem major) has the best comment under your article there Kevin …

      “A much better thing to be worrying about is not, “how can we get enough calories into poor people,” but “why have we kept them so poor that they can only afford McShit?”

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      • Kevin

         /  April 13, 2017

        Mr Kendrick can’t dispute the fact that the double cheeseburger is the most nutritious meal you can get for your money.

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        • Yes he can Kevin. That assertion is entirely contestable, because money is not the only medium by which food is acquired … You can, for instance, barter for it, give and receive it for free – like koha – forage for it or ‘husband’ and grow it yourself …

          “Nutritional value for money”, which is the rather bizarre formulaic ‘substance’ this article is talking about, is simply not the same as ‘nutritional value’ … These things are not the same and may not even be very alike …

          It’s rather like “time is money” or ‘dollar time’ is it not? Do you charge your kids ‘dollar time’ when you read them a bedtime story …

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          • Duncan Cameron

             /  April 13, 2017

            Thank you for coming into this thread 😂 Whole different energy coming from you. You don’t automatically seem like a narsiccist lol. And appear to be able to think freely. Some of the others I question haha.

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  10. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 13, 2017

    I think you need to look at any information cautiously. And I dont base my theories on this. To me it doesn’t really matter who’s responsible. I just want elected officials that will represent me at a minimum. Currently they don’t. They represent corporate interests.

    Exert-
    J. W. McCallister, an oil industry insider with House of Saud connections, wrote in The Grim Reaper that information he acquired from Saudi bankers cited 80% ownership of the New York Federal Reserve Bank- by far the most powerful Fed branch- by just eight families, four of which reside in the US. They are the Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans and Kuhn Loebs of New York; the Rothschilds of Paris and London; the Warburgs of Hamburg; the Lazards of Paris; and the Israel Moses Seifs of Rome.

    CPA Thomas D. Schauf corroborates McCallister’s claims, adding that ten banks control all twelve Federal Reserve Bank branches. He names N.M. Rothschild of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Warburg Bank of Amsterdam, Lehman Brothers of New York, Lazard Brothers of Paris, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs of New York and JP Morgan Chase Bank of New York. Schauf lists William Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff and James Stillman as individuals who own large shares of the Fed. [3] The Schiffs are insiders at Kuhn Loeb. The Stillmans are Citigroup insiders, who married into the Rockefeller clan at the turn of the century.

    Eustace Mullins came to the same conclusions in his book The Secrets of the Federal Reserve, in which he displays charts connecting the Fed and its member banks to the families of Rothschild, Warburg, Rockefeller and the others. [4]

    The control that these banking families exert over the global economy cannot be overstated and is quite intentionally shrouded in secrecy. Their corporate media arm is quick to discredit any information exposing this private central banking cartel as “conspiracy theory”. Yet the facts remain

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    • Kevin

       /  April 13, 2017

      The only thing that needs to happen now is for someone to point out to you that these “banking cartels” are all “jewish-run” and it’s all over – you’ve now subscribed to the master conspiracy theory from which nearly all other conspiracy theories are derived.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  April 13, 2017

        And here it is…
        That piece he’s quoted was written by Dean Henderson in 2011, and here is the same Dean Henderson on the Ritchie Allen show (in association with David Icke) saying the the Rothschilds were originally servants to the Dutch Royalty untill they hooked up with some Zionist Jews to steal money from their employers and start the world of international banking.

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        • Duncan Cameron

           /  April 13, 2017

          thanks for clarifying my point that there is an elite oligarchal intergenerational system of wealth that dictates from the few to the many. I don’t see you providing and counter evidence? Guilty by association by knowing David Icke? Just because he is a ‘conspiracy theorist’, it’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true. In that case,
          It’s just a conspiracy!

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          • Anonymous Coward

             /  April 13, 2017

            I haven’t clarified your point, I’m haven’t even addressed it – in fact I’m not sure you’ve got one.
            I just introduced the missing Zionists that Kevin was talking about.

            Here’s something to ponder….
            Why, when the Jews were seizing control of the worlds finances were the Jesuits setting up the spherical planet hoax?

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  11. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 13, 2017

    “The goal of the transnational corporation is to become truly transnational, poised above the sovereign power of any particu­lar nation, while being served by the sovereign powers of all nations.” http://www.countercurrents.org/parenti260507.htm

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  12. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 13, 2017

    “Next time the economic system collapses, we have to be prepared to take it back from the bankers and the neoliberals. We have to treat them ose men in suits as charlatans, and unwise. It is an opportunity to create a constitutional revolution. And absolutely no mega-corporates need come knocking on the door, unless they are looking for redemption and making a difference which doesn’t involve reinventing the same old destructive wheel” Chris Perley- Green Party candidate for Tukati

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201840281/predicting-the-next-global-meltdown

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  13. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 14, 2017

    **Maggie Wassilief
    Monsanto, Bayer, DuPont… They are just one tiny piece of a developing problem. The 40,000 transnational corporations that are meticulously used to assert an ‘elite’ agenda to destabilise the ability for nations to develop naturally, and to basically purchase sovereignty off the people through governments. Plus I just prefer my fresh produce without glyphosate thanks.

    Our approach to living is far too compartmentalised and controlled. Agriculture is a failure. We need to move to a intergrated system of permaculture whereby we invest in the natural capital of the earth, supporting and modelling desirable ecology and rebuild degraded ecosystems.

    By doing this we could mitigate our intensified agriculture and our domination of the earth ecology. Also creating food security and nationalising our banks and resourses by removing our dependence from the multinational corporations and their financial lonbyists, and creating a more self reliant NZD.

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    • Maggy Wassilieff

       /  April 14, 2017

      I have been aware of your sort of arguments since the 1970s. I have heard all that terminator gene stuff for decades… such a pity for you that I am a botanist and grow plants.

      You need to update yourself about what is really happening in the horticultural field and stop peddling nonsense about stuff that never was.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_use_restriction_technology

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      • Duncan Cameron

         /  April 14, 2017

        Did you read anything in my article about the terminator gene? No. And if you had done your research then you would know Monsanto has placed pressure on governments such as Mexico to commercially use the terminator gene plant. Although a string will of THE POEPLE pushed back against this globally. As the threat is clear. That’s cool you are a botanist, permaculture is where it’s at 😉

        Have things gotten better or worse since the 70’s?
        Mike drop boom I’m out

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        • Maggy Wassilieff

           /  April 14, 2017

          Did you read anything in my article about the terminator gene? No.

          That is an insult to me.
          I not only read what you placed on here, I went looking for the source of your article on RAFI and the terminator gene stuff… and concluded that you must have been quoting stuff from the 1990s.
          I further provided you with material to show you were peddling nonsense here.
          You mightn’t like what I write… fine, but don’t lie about me.

          You don’t know me.. don’t assume you know what I read and what I don’t read.

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          • Duncan Cameron

             /  April 14, 2017

            I’m not trying to insult people by all means engage me in debate. I hope to help people.

            Side not I don’t see how I peddled nonsense? i did make an incorrect statement in the comment section which I corrected. However the point that the engineering of a terminator gene does pose a threat. Let me pose a question, as a botanist would you oppose the engineering and use of such a plant by the industry? AND, do you think a corporation would be willing to put people, environments and animals LAST and profit FIRTS. Are you aware of Bayer, which purchased Monsanto, involvement in the testing of chemical gasses in the first gassings of Jews pre WWII?

            Regardless thanks for your time on the post.

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            • Anonymous Coward

               /  April 14, 2017

              What about hybrids?
              And..”first gassings of Jews pre WWII?” WTF!!!
              Where do you get your information from? So much of it is wrong.

            • Maggy Wassilieff

               /  April 14, 2017

              Are you aware of Bayer, which purchased Monsanto, involvement in the testing of chemical gasses in the first gassings of Jews pre WWII?

              1. The plural of gas is gases.

              2. What sort of idiot do you think I am?
              Have a very careful look at my surname.

              If you can produce evidence that Zyklon B was used to gas Jews pre WW 2, (i.e. to kill them, not to delouse their clothes,etc) I think the historians will be very interested.

            • Blazer

               /  April 14, 2017

              you need to confine your argument to the monetary system and manipulation of resources.By expanding your topic with various side tracks ,the skeptics will pick you off when you present something specific they can counter,which they will seize on to discredit all of your premise.

  14. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 14, 2017

    I hope this makes you feel all levels of emotion, to the point you do not know what to think or do, why? Because you have been told what to think your whole life

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  15. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 14, 2017

    Annonymous Coward. Not from the mainstream that’s for sure, have you got an infection of MSM in your brain?

    “Bayer, IG Farben and World War II: Slave Labour and Deadly Gas Bayer (along with BASF and Hoechst) was an original member of the IG Farben group. During WWII, IG Farben built a synthetic rubber and oil plant complex called Monowitz close to the Auschwitz concentration camp. Inmates worked as slave labour for IG Farben,[216] and when they were too weak to work they were killed in the gas chambers. IG Farben subsidiary Degesch manufactured Zyklon B, the gas used in the concentration camp gas chambers.[217]”

    “On 29 July 1948, sentences for mass murder and slavery were handed down at the Nuremberg trials to twelve Farben executives. The longest sentence of only seven years was dealt out was to Dr. Fritz ter Meer, a top executive and scientist on the IG Farben managing board.[219]
    After the war, IG Farben separated into three giant corporations: Bayer, Hoechst and BASF. On 1 August 1963, Bayer celebrated its 100th anniversary at the Cologne fairgrounds. The opening speech was delivered by Dr. Fritz ter Meer, not only out of prison but – a convicted mass murderer -elevated to the position of Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Bayer.[220]”

    IG Farben also conducted experiments on humans. Eva Mozes Kor, among the 1,500 sets of twins experimented on by the infamous Dr. Josef Mengele, claims that IG Farben monitored and supervised medical experiments at the Nazi concentration camp where she was interned. She claims the experiments involved toxic chemicals that IG Farben (Bayer) provided. In some of the experiments, the lawsuit states, prisoners were injected with germs known to cause diseases, “to test the effectiveness of various drugs” manufactured by IG Farben. Mengele conducted genetic experiments there in an effort to create a super race of blonde, blue-eyed Aryans who would be born in multiple births. Both Kor and her sister survived their 10-month ordeal in the concentration camp and were liberated by Soviet troops in January 1945. They were nearly 10 years old. According to Irwin Levin (Kor’s Lawyer), IG Farben paid Nazi officials during World War II for access to those confined in the camps and collaborated in Nazi experiments as a form of research and development. The lawsuit sought unspecified punitive damages and the recovery of profits it maintains IG Farben (Bayer) earned as a result of such research.

    https://corporatewatch.org/company-profiles/bayer-ag-corporate-crimes

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    • Anonymous Coward

       /  April 14, 2017

      “have you got an infection of MSM in your brain?”
      Ad hominems do nothing for your case. (as a logical fallacy it means you’ve already lost the argument).

      Your original claim was ” Are you aware of Bayer, which purchased Monsanto, involvement in the testing of chemical gasses in the first gassings of Jews pre WWII?”

      As Maggie has pointed out – there were no gassings of Jews pre WWII. And secondly Bayer did not make Zyklon B, the gas that was used to kill Jews was made by Degesch, who owned Degussa. IG Farben had a 42% stake of Degussa. Degesh was not an “IG Farben subsidiary”.

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      • Duncan Cameron

         /  April 14, 2017

        Cool you guys have fun supporting Monsanto then. I say fuck them. If you are too much of an advanced individual to spend your time reading into such ludicrous theories, you time would likely be better served elsewhere, don’t you think?

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        • Maggy Wassilieff

           /  April 14, 2017

          As I mentioned above, you obviously know nothing about me.
          So let me introduce you to one of my interests….. and since you are into sustainable life, you might have some practical advice.

          I have 4 years to plant up a 250km-long corridor of weed-infested, highly erodible, land with about 10 million native trees. I have 4 staff. How do you reckon I should go about getting the plants safely into the ground and ensure that they don’t get overtopped by competing shrub and weedy growth?

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          • Duncan Cameron

             /  April 14, 2017

            Maybe by preparing the land in sections with grazing stock. It all starts with the soil. Would you need a spare pare of hands. One of my dreams is to create a permaculture renewable sustainable system that’s community and learning based and provides abundance and food security. I’ve been trying to reach out to projects and people who can help. Not a lot of traction gained yet.

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            • Maggy Wassilieff

               /  April 14, 2017

              If you are seriously interested in permaculture, then you would either be already running your own show growing plants any and everywhere, or you would be working on an established set-up.

              I wouldn’t consider employing anyone who hadn’t had a couple of years practical planting/weed control/pest control experience An employer can’t afford to put someone up on a hillside with a bunch of plants without being sure that the person knows: how to plant a tree properly; how to look after themselves in the outdoors under all weather conditions; how to use a scrub-bar, chain-saw safely, etc, etc.

              If you are interested in getting practical experience with native revegetation, there’s scores of groups doing good work throughout NZ.
              https://www.naturespace.org.nz/all-groups

              If you want to work with groups that are more into permaculture and food production, try WWOOFing
              http://www.wwoof.co.nz/
              or contact PiNZ
              https://www.permaculture.org.nz/frontpage

    • Anonymous Coward

       /  April 14, 2017

      “Not from the mainstream that’s for sure”

      The thing about the ‘mainstream’ as it applies to history is that the books that have been published have to be meticulously researched and fact checked, whereas the crackpots that you are using as sources are just writing whatever fantasies suit there cause.

      You’d make your arguments a lot stronger if you used ‘proper’ sources, and also if you accepted when you’ve been proven wrong.
      As you said the other day, you’re 22 and we’re all probably older than you. What that means is that when you quote outdated research from 20 years ago, you think it’s a new thing whereas we remember it getting discredited 20 years ago – when you were 2.

      I’m twice your age, none of what you think is true is new to me. The idea of an illuminati and a Zionist banking conspiracy was a round before there was an internet. In the last 20 years though the internet has allowed fringe ideas to flourish and there’s a crackpot for every issue.
      You may find it hard to believe but when you were born nobody though the world was flat, and nobody had done since Gallileo’s days. But now, thanks to the ‘information superhighway’, someone proposed the idea-possibly to have a laugh-and know even famous sportsmen believe that, based on some catchy bullshit, that the earth is flat.

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      • Duncan Cameron

         /  April 14, 2017

        If you want to understand my sentiments towards the MSM, read Noam Chomskys Manufactuting Consent. Okay seeing as you have a superior intellectual insight to me, im sure you could be better applying your time than trying to disprove something you see as ludicrous. I don’t think I pose much of a threat to yourself or your national army, especially if you’re not prepared to stand with me

        #HandsoffSyria
        #WarISalie

        PEOPLE OVER PROFIT

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        • Corky

           /  April 14, 2017

          Noam Chomsky became redundant once Trump came assumed power. He’s now a quaint byline from yesteryear. Just like Hillary Clinton.

          Reply
        • Anonymous Coward

           /  April 14, 2017

          I actually saw the documentary at the film festival in 1994.

          Reply
  16. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 14, 2017

    Under the watch of your generation we have developed a never ending proxy war.

    8 people control more wealth than the bottom 50% or over 3.6 billion combined.
    The US currently has 7 interventions going on in countries that didn’t attack them, including drone strike, special ops boots on the ground, occupations and invasions
    A billion people are starving
    We are facing multiple refugee crisis

    Wake up. The politicians don’t represent you. The media lies

    WORK BUY CONSUME DIE
    Be a good slave

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  17. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 14, 2017
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  18. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 14, 2017

    Not to mention the housing crisis and the fact that wage wage hasn’t come close to matching productivity since the 1980s!

    What about the housing crisis? The impending market crashes? Because that’s how our banking systems work, they crash the economy almost dilibretly every 10 years

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  19. Duncan Cameron

     /  April 14, 2017

    Thank you Blazer.

    To put it simply, I am one man. The dreams I have, they rely on us working together.

    Reply

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