Labour would slash immigration

Andrew Little says that Labour would slash immigration, to the consternation of some on the left. It seems to be an attempt to compete with NZ First for some votes further to the right.

NZ Herald: Andrew Little: Labour will stop ‘tens of thousands’ of immigrants from coming to NZ

Labour leader Andrew Little has vowed to slash immigration by “tens of thousands” of new arrivals but won’t be more specific about exact numbers.

Speaking to Focus after the Government announced a tightening of immigration rules, Little said Labour would go much further in order to give the country a “breather”.

“The commitment I am making is we have to be serious about it, we have to cut immigration. It has got to be in the order of tens of thousands,” Little said.

“And it has got to be immigration that meets the genuine shortage of skills that we’ve got, not just the open slather policy we’ve got right now.”

Asked by how much would Labour cut immigration, Little said he did not have an exact number and flexibility was needed from year to year in order to match the right migrants with skill shortages.

Another sort of policy announcement without any specifics.

He criticised Immigration Minister Michael Woodhouse for not being able to estimate how many people the package of changes announced on Wednesday would keep out of New Zealand.

But he wouldn’t give numbers himself.

This election is shaping up as being a contest of the vaguest policies – trying to sound like something but largely meaningless.

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21 Comments

  1. Zedd

     /  April 20, 2017

    I dont think Natz will ‘rush to react’ in a hurry.. they seem quite OK with bringing in foreign, low skilled & low paid workers.. also they still deny there is a housing shortage/crisis (esp. in Akld). ‘welcome to fantasy island(s).. Mr E’ 😀

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  April 20, 2017

      They don’t deny that, as is obvious from what they have said on the news.

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    • Corky

       /  April 20, 2017

      Prime Minister Billy English is counting on scream skull rhetoric as enspoused by you being ignored by the voters. Time will tell, Zedd%

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      • Gezza

         /  April 20, 2017

        I reckon you could probably drop the % now & save yourself the extra key press Corks. Doesn’t seem to be producing the desired effect any more.

        Immigration levels & its links to low wages & high house prices should stay reasonably good as hot pokers for the Oppos.

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        • Corky

           /  April 20, 2017

          Dropping the% means a Y in its place. That makes Zedd% pull his hair out. There’s no key stroke savings. l’m a creature of habit as you well know. It will take a while for me to work through this. I have just got rid of ‘Crikey’

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          • Gezza

             /  April 20, 2017

            Why have you dropped crikey?
            Can I have it?
            I sometimes worry that my occasional Christ, Jesus, & various references to Allah & Muhammad (pbuh) might be upsetting to Brown.

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            • Corky

               /  April 20, 2017

              Why did I drop crikey? Same reason people drop a song after playing it hundreds of times…it loses its magnetism.

              Can you have it? No, its too low brow, and not suited to you. You need something more ‘whimsical’ like ‘excuse me, dude’

            • Gezza

               /  April 20, 2017

              Bugger. I’ll stick with religious utterances and ‘wot?’ for a bit longer I think.

          • Conspiratoor

             /  April 20, 2017

            Crikey was quaint nostalgia. I liked crikey

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            • Corky

               /  April 20, 2017

              I took my name from another piece of quaint nostalgia….Corka.

  2. patupaiarehe

     /  April 20, 2017

    TBH, I think immigration is tough enough already. Regarding my trade, anyway. There is a serious skill shortage in the ‘trade end’ of engineering, It’s all well & good to import ‘theoretical engineers’, who get paid well over the average wage, to create ideas. But those folk, need the lower paid ‘fabricators’, to turn those ideas into a reality. And even lower paid welders, to ‘glue together’, what the fabricators create. Yet even the lowest paid ‘production welder’, can expect well over $20/hr, for an honest days work, ‘pulling a trigger’.
    Something is seriously wrong with this country, when we are importing welders, rather than training them…

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    • Gezza

       /  April 20, 2017

      Why has there been such a fall off in industry-related Skills & Trade Training?

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      • patupaiarehe

         /  April 20, 2017

        It’s too expensive to train apprentices, G. When you factor in the extra three weeks they spend training, every year, and well over a grand/year in course costs, per year.
        I reckon that Alan could give us some perspective on the ‘apprenticeship thing’.
        Whenever you are ready, Alan, would you hire someone, who demanded 7 weeks paid leave per year, and expected you to pay over $1000/year in course fees above this, per year, and who would most likely leave your company, as soon as their training was finished???

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    • PDB

       /  April 20, 2017

      1. Young people generally today expect to be paid the big bucks right off the bat rather than go through an apprenticeship which sees them start on a lower wage and over a period of years increase their pay as they learn on the job.
      2. Young people generally today are not wanting to do labour intensive work, even with the many businesses that provide clear career progression through the company from the lowest ranks of the company.

      This country has lots of very well paid jobs available in the trades and laboring industries but can’t get people to apply. I’ve mentioned this very problem on here previously and it is only getting worse.

      Part of the problem is this encouragement for kids to go into higher education doing worthless degrees and the like (with no prospect of future work) when we should instead be encouraging people into the trades.

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      • Gezza

         /  April 20, 2017

        Yes you have commented on this before. If it was up to you, how would you encourage young people into the trades?

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        • PDB

           /  April 20, 2017

          I think the only way is to decrease incentives to enter higher education in careers where jobs are scarce and increase incentives into the trades. Better career advice at high school would help as well, whilst the trades companies need to up their game in their recruitment drives at high schools.

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          • patupaiarehe

             /  April 20, 2017

            I well remember Pants, being discouraged from doing a trade, and being told to do a management degree. So I did half of a management degree, before I decided it was a load of BS, then ‘falling into’ an apprenticeship. I now manage a workshop, and really enjoy seeing young guys, who are where I was 20 years ago, being proud of their efforts towards building this city. As they should be. As an older tradesman, I can drive down Marine Parade, and every third house, has a piece of steel in it, that I was involved in, either fabricating, or installing it…

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            • patupaiarehe

               /  April 20, 2017

            • patupaiarehe

               /  April 20, 2017

              Cities are built on ‘Rock & Roll’. This is the music that is playing in the factories, where the ‘prefab frames’ of your new house are being nailed together. The same music is playing, in the engineering workshop, where your steel beams are being welded up. And the same music, is being enjoyed by the aluminium joiners, who are making your windows. As well as the plumbers, who have the unenviable task, of connecting your shitter to the sewer…

      • patupaiarehe

         /  April 20, 2017

        Yup Pants, you are far from wrong! I forget what it’s called, where those who are pretty crap at doing anything, consider themselves competent at everything. Individuals such as this, very occasionally manage to talk themselves into my workplace. Normally, I conduct ‘job interviews’, then tell the directors ‘yes’, or ‘no fucking way!’. But sometimes, ‘somebody knows someone’, and I end up having to ‘make someone useful’. Someone who is being paid FAR MORE, than they are worth. My approach, to individuals like this, is to give them the most basic & menial tasks available, while challenging the guys who normally do this work, to ‘do better’. And guess what? When the ‘bosses mates son’ quits, the boss asks me how to replace him. And I reply, “I don’t think we need anyone else. The ‘dead wood’ has just removed itself”…

        i

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