More claims of Russian election interference

Some here have said that allegations of Russian hacking and interference in the US presidential election isn’t a big deal, they shouldn’t be investigated, and everyone should just “move on”.

The election result is a done deal and there’s not changing that, but efforts to combat international interference in elections is a growing problem that needs attention and demands investigation.

The Russian hacker claims have now moved to the French presidential election.

BBC: Russian hackers ‘target’ presidential candidate Macron

Russian hackers are targeting the campaign of French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron, say security experts.

Phishing emails, malware and fake net domains were all being used as attack techniques, said Feike Hacquebord, from security company Trend Micro.

The attackers are believed to be part of the same group that targeted the US election.

Russia has denied that it is behind attacks aimed at Mr Macron.

In a report, Mr Hacquebord said the group behind the “aggressive” attacks was a collective of Russian hackers known widely as Fancy Bear, APT28 and Pawn Storm.

He said the group was using an extensive arsenal of high-tech con tricks to grab the login names, passwords and other credentials of staff aiding Mr Macron’s bid to be the next French president.

In particular, said Mr Hacquebord, the hacker group had registered several net domains similar to those already registered by the French politician’s staff.

The fake domains were then used in phishing emails sent to key workers in an attempt to get them to visit the websites so login details could be scooped up.

Mr Hacquebord said telltale techniques of the group lent weight to the idea that the people involved in the French attacks were behind ones seen last year in the US.

A spokesman for the French national cyber-security agency, ANSSI, confirmed that it too had seen several attacks on Mr Macron’s staff and back-office systems.

However, a spokesman for the agency said it was difficult to be sure that the Pawn Storm group was behind the attacks.

But:

The Pawn Storm group is also believed to have been involved in other attacks on political organisations, including the Christian Democratic Union of Germany, the Turkish government and Montenegro’s parliament, as well as the World Anti-Doping Agency and Arabic television channel al-Jazeera.

This sort of political cyber attacking and campaign disruption is difficult to combat, but it would be ridiculous to just try to ignore it as if it isn’t a problem.

 

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  1. Nelly Smickers

     /  26th April 2017

    LOL ❗

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  2. MaureenW

     /  26th April 2017

    Some here have said ….. etc

    It would not be so bad if your coverage was balanced to include the hacking and espionage the US engages in with foreign elections also. The hypocrisy of targeting Russia without including the sophisticated activities of the US is laughable, hence the dismissiveness.
    https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/

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    • I’ve mentioned the history of US interference in elections a number of times.

      But that doesn’t seem to be a current issue – you refer back to 2012.

      I’ve also posted about US preferences to overthrow the Assad government in Syria, and to deal in some way (including military) with the government in North Korea.

      So your accusations are what’s laughable.

      Do you think that accusations and claims of Russian interference in elections should be ignored?

      If so, why? Because the helped Trump so that makes it ok? Or you don’t want Trump’s election legitimised in any way?

      What a bizarre situation where Russian international interference (there’s as much history of that as for the US) is excused and swept under a rug because you happen to like the outcome of one election.
      Pathetic.

      It’s curious to see the concerted efforts to stomp on any criticism of Russian interference as soon as it’s mentioned here.

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      • Anonymous Coward

         /  26th April 2017

        There’s something of a logical disconnect with some people over this issue. They say ‘it couldn’t have happened to a better person, so it doesn’t matter’, but in saying that they seem unable to parse their opinion of Hillary from the hacked, manipulated and fake information that came from the interference.

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        • MaureenW

           /  26th April 2017

          Ok, what happened? Please quantify how Hillary lost the election because of Russian inference? You can’t because there isn’t any evidence.

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          • I have never said that Hillary lost the election because of Russian interference. She lost primarily because she was not what many voters wanted, she ran a poor campaign and had history of her own and her husbands that put off many people. Comey interference, Wikileaks interference and it seems at least some Russian interference all played a part, but Clinton lost because she wasn’t good enough against one of the worst opponents one could wish to go up against.
            shown why you don’t care about Russian interference – as long as Hillary lost you don’t care.

            I suspect that if Russian hackers had colluded with Wikileaks against trump and Clinton had won your attitude would be a lot different.

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            • David

               /  26th April 2017

              “I suspect that if Russian hackers had colluded with Wikileaks against trump and Clinton had won your attitude would be a lot different.”

              If Russian hackers have revealed information on Trump’s bad behavior that was hidden from public view, and he lost the election as a result of that information, then they would have done the US a favour.

              The reality is that the ‘Russian Hackers’ have not really changed the election in any way. People who disliked Clinton would have disliked her more following relations of her behind the curtain behavior, and those who would vote for her would, in all likelyhood, hold their nose and vote for her anyway.

              Trump was an open book, anything they hacked from the R side wasn’t actually very useful and if anything would likely have helped Trump.

          • Anonymous Coward

             /  26th April 2017

            Oh come on, you were on the internet during the election – you saw it and read it. Conversely can you prove that there wasn’t Russian interference? You can’t deny that there was interference,but can you prove it came from elsewhere?

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            • MaureenW

               /  26th April 2017

              See Nellie’s post at the top of the page 🙂

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  26th April 2017

              Passive ad hominem? A logical fallacy in reply to a claim of a logical disconnect, double fail. Well Done.

            • David

               /  26th April 2017

              “Conversely can you prove that there wasn’t Russian interference?”

              Lame double down. There is not one shred of evidence of Russian hacking. It’s nothing more than inference. The CIA and FBI have been investigating it for more than a year and still have nothing more than an accusation.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  26th April 2017

              Do you see what you did there Dave?

      • MaureenW

         /  26th April 2017

        If there was any evidence of Russian hacking and interference in the US elections, it would be a worthy topic. There is some evidence of foul play – a group is trying to bring a Class Action again the DNC for fraud – for cheating Bernie Sanders.

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  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  26th April 2017

    I’ve not seen any evidence Russian hacking played any significant role in the US election result. On the other hand both the House and Senate enquiries have proved it to be a partisan political issue and campaign within the US.

    That’s about where its significance ends.

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    • Gezza

       /  26th April 2017

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  26th April 2017

        But in this case it’s the media / democrats playing the guy in yellow saying “You hacked the election” though – and they are following the second line when asked to prove it.

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        • Gezza

           /  26th April 2017

          That’s correct. Both sides have been playing this game. Currently they have the ball, but the other team will have it again soon.

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  26th April 2017

            I’m sure RT will clear it all up in their coverage and a number of anonymous and strangely untraceable tweets will emerge letting us know there is nothing to see here and to move on to more important subjects – like the perfidies of Emmanuel Macron and his strange reverse Lolita marriage…

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            • Gezza

               /  26th April 2017

              It’s all up to Jimmy Wales & Wikitribune now to get us the accurate, verified news. Trust no one else, HFD. Agendas.

  4. “Some here have said that allegations of Russian hacking and interference in the US presidential election isn’t a big deal, they shouldn’t be investigated, and everyone should just “move on”.”

    Those damn someones… bored of the seemingly endless meme it was the Russians, it was Comey….it was everything but Hillary being a shit candidate..

    Investigate all you want. It will show a least a triple layer of obfuscation between official Russian agencies and actions to any actual groups and their attempts to subvert/manipulate/control the US election. And prove zip, zero, nothing.

    Its a non event. Not because it was undesirable activity, not because it shouldn’t be guarded against – but because it has always happened and always will…..US does, the Rus do, the Chicom do it, The Brits do…. everyone is at it. Hell the NZ government is at it across the pacific nations

    Hence the call to Move On…

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