Labour experience and turnover

A lot has been said about Labour’s failure to replace and replenish it’s caucus.

Therefore an interesting comment from Antoine at The Standard:

I’ve been comparing the Labour Cabinet of 2005 with the current Labour caucus.

1. Clark – GONE
2. Cullen – GONE
3. Anderton – GONE
4. Maharey – GONE
5. Goff – GONE
6. King – GONE [Not yet, leaving in September]
7. Mallard – PROBABLY GOING
8. Hodgson – GONE
9. Horomia – RIP (God bless)
10. Burton – GONE
11. Dyson – STILL HERE (Apparently)
12. Carter – GONE
13. Barker – GONE
14. Benson-Pope – GONE
15. Dalziel – GONE
16. O’Connor – STILL HERE
17. Cunliffe – GONE
18. Parker – STILL HERE (And actually still in a senior role)
19. Mahuta – STILL HERE (Apparently)
20. Cosgrove – STILL HERE [Just, leaving in September]
21. Sutton – GONE.

It makes for sobering reading. The only remaining senior Labour MP with experience of actually getting stuff done in Government is David Parker.

That is a nearly complete turnover in talent, albeit over 12 years. If Mallard manages to get back in on the list he will be Speaker or backbench so is unlikely to feature in Caucus.

The current top 21 and the year they entered Parliament:

  1. Andrew Little (2011, list, party president 2009)
  2. Jacinda Ardern (2008, list until this year, has worked in Clark and Goff offices prior)
  3. Grant Robertson (2008 Wellington Central, worked in Clark and Hobbs offices prior)
  4. Phil Twyford (2008, list, 2011 Te Atatu, on Labour’s policy council prior)
  5. Megan Woods (2011 Wigram)
  6. Chris Hipkins (2008, Rimutaka, advisor to Mallard and Clark prior)
  7. Kelvin Davis (2008 list, 2014 list, 2014 Te Tai Tokerau)
  8. Carmel Sepuloni (2008 list, 2014 Kelston)
  9. David Clark (2011 Dunedin North)
  10. David Parker (2002 Otago, 2005 list)
  11. Nanaia Mahuta (1996 list, since 1999 Maori electorates)
  12. Meka Whatiri (2013 Ikaroa-Rawhiti, senior adviser for Horomia prior)
  13. Stuart Nash (2008 list, 2011 not in Parliament, 2014 Napier)
  14. Iain Lees-Galloway (2008 Palmerston North)
  15. Aupito Su’a William Sio (2011 list, 2008 Mangere)
  16. Sue Moroney (2005 list) – leaving this year
  17. Damien O’Connor (1992 West Coast, 2009 list, 2001 West Coast-Tasman)
  18. Kris Faafoi (2010 Mana)
  19. Jenny Salesa (2014 Manukau East)
  20. Peeni Henare (2014 Tamaki Makaurau)

Parker, Mahuta and O’Connor are the only MPs from that list with experience in government who have a chance of returning.

Ruth Dyson has been a low level minister (ACC, Senior Citizens) in the Clark government but is currently ranked 25.

Labour’s top twenty are unlikely to all get into Cabinet if Labour form the next Government.

Based on current polls if Labour and Greens manage to increase their support proportionally then about a third of Cabinet should be Green MPs, and at least a quarter.

But a Labour+Greens+NZ First triumvirate is looking more likely (unless NZ First go with National) and on current polling that is only 60% Labour, or just over half of Cabinet if done proportionally, which would be 12-15 ministers depending on how many are appointed.

Any party that is out of government for 9 years is going to shed a lot of experience, but if Labour get into government after this year’s election they would be one of the least experienced taking office, with no Green government experience and only Winston Peters from NZ First having been in Government or Cabinet before.

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20 Comments

  1. Pete Kane

     /  1st May 2017

    Bet some in the keadership are wishing they could add a certain ChCh East ‘identity’ to the gone list!

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  2. This is the situation that the Swiss parliamentary system covers well. They have 7 ministers elected by the members of the Swiss parliament. They are elected on a party proportional basis to act as the equivalent of our cabinet ministers. They hold this position almost permanently and the president is annually rotated by and from within the group of seven based on age and length of service as an MP. This way the experience and wisdom of the older and longer standing MPs is captured and a smooth transition through times of government change is ensured.
    Our MPs are just that MPs. The employees in the government departments that they are assigned to are really the ones that hold the historical knowledge and experience. We rely on them to give our MPs good support and advice etc, especially new elected ones. I do not see many new MPs as a weak point in a party. I think it could in fact also be the reverse. Ears that listen, open minds.

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    • Pete Kane

       /  1st May 2017

      Great article Teoranga.

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    • Gezza

       /  1st May 2017

      “Any party that is out of government for 9 years is going to shed a lot of experience, but if Labour get into government after this year’s election they would be one of the least experienced taking office, with no Green government experience and only Winston Peters from NZ First having been in Government or Cabinet before.”

      That, is actually a scary prospect because I really can’t see this lot managing to run a government smoothly together for 3 years without ructions.

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      • Pete Kane

         /  1st May 2017

        Our two most significant Govts. G Liberals 1891 and Labour 35. Same boat (technically) – although very different men.

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        • Pete Kane

           /  1st May 2017

          Clarification – ‘different’ meaning today’s lot. Great commonality between many in the 91 and 35 Govts.

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      • Pete Kane

         /  1st May 2017

        Will be interested to see how long before a ‘daft list’ is leaked. (Maybe it has and I missed it?) What’s the latest release without appearing to disrespect the electorate?

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        • Pete Kane

           /  1st May 2017

          Sorry – ‘draft’.

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          • Gezza

             /  1st May 2017

            Prefer to see one as you originally described, Pete, tbh. Shouldn’t take long to produce.

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      • Blazer

         /  1st May 2017

        don’t be scared G…Clark presided for 9 years and after her came a very inexperienced Nat M.P . He became P.M….and his team were relatively inexperienced….oh hang on…you are right…look at the mess they made!

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  3. Pete Kane

     /  1st May 2017

    Well they are trying things. “Labour leader Andrew Little to run the reception desk at Wellington school”. (Along with other MPs according to the story.)
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/92060223/labour-leader-andrew-little-to-run-the-reception-desk-at-wellington-school

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  4. Pete Kane

     /  1st May 2017

    Spoke too soon. List imminent according to radio. Mallard well down. Hope he doesn’t get depressed and starting seeking out Nel’s Wayne – more to live that politics Trev.

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  5. Zedd

     /  1st May 2017

    Their ‘Govt. experience’ maybe supposedly ‘lacking’ BUT do we really want another term of this current ‘washed up’ Govt. ? “No Thx !” 🙂

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  6. John Schmidt

     /  1st May 2017

    This is scary on so many levels.

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    • Blazer

       /  1st May 2017

      name some of the things that…scare …you.

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      • Corky

         /  1st May 2017

        Socialist Women’s Choir. Especially when they do the freestyle thing and start screaming like a Banshee being water boarded.

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