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13 May 2017

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  1. Conspiratoor

     /  May 13, 2017

    In northern climes a balmy 15C, clear sunny skies with a gentle southerly reminding us the planet still conforms to seasons ordained by the almighty

  2. Corky

     /  May 13, 2017

    We lose a great warrior in the fight against Islam. This chap has become a confused apologist for Islam. I can’t believe it. And he’s a Libertarian to boot. Given he has lost weight, he may be ill.

    But he certainly doesn’t look like the guy who co-hosted the programme: Penn and Teller: Bullshit.

    • Gezza

       /  May 13, 2017

      Interesting. Sounds like he is ignorant about Islam. Probably hasn’t read the Quran & Top 2 Hadith. He talks about the risk of people who believe in Islam being terrorists is low, but he never returns to the issue the young atheist Pakistani raises – that if he said he was an atheist his whole family would dosown him, but they wouldn’t kill him – but there was a very high chance someone else in their Pakistani Muslim community would. So, the answer is to not accept Muslim refugees. Only accept atheist or maybe Christian refugees. & vet the, closely. Muslim countries can accept Muslim refugees.

      • Corky

         /  May 13, 2017

        Agreed. How he forgot about the ramifications of what the young Pakistani told him is beyond me. Especially when it contradicts what he later said.

        • Gezza

           /  May 13, 2017

          I’d say whike he’s an atheist he’s probably a secular humanist – in other words he’s a good person who is compassionate & hates to see people having to flee for their lives from wars & destruction & persecution, like most of us do. He probably knows at least a reasonable amount about Christianity & the Bible. He probably has heard Islam is basically about the same God as the one the Jews & the Christians believe in. He’ll assume Islam is like an arabised form of Christianity. He won’t have looked into it. So he has NFI.

          • Corky

             /  May 13, 2017

            That’s the rub. I may have read the guy wrong, but he always struck me as facing problems rationally and not thinking too much on the emotional level as he does in the above clip. Yes, he should have studied more before upsetting me needlessly.

            • Gezza

               /  May 13, 2017

              Well, I have to agree with you there Corks. Sometimes I can see that there is a definite need for someone to upset you, but in this case I think I concur that there wasn’t.

  3. Conspiratoor

     /  May 13, 2017

    Sobering post on the whale today about the extent of inbreeding in the muslim world …where cousin marriage is the norm…

    A map of the world by IQ

    https://ericallenbellblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/world-map-by-iq-eric-allen-bell.png?w=604&h=356

    • Corky

       /  May 13, 2017

      Those IQ figures are a worry. Especially as they cover areas of major Muslim populations.
      Indonesia is just up the road and has an low average IQ. These figures aren’t funny. It means many of the worlds population isn’t capable of rational thought and its offspring- self reflection.

      So how do these people assimilate into Western society? Answer: they don’t.

      • Gezza

         /  May 13, 2017

        Did you see where the smartest ones are?

        • Corky

           /  May 13, 2017

          I was hoping no one would mention the dragon in the room.

      • C & C … Yous two have gotta be fucken kidding me!!! Conspiratoor, you left the ‘L’ out of “sobering” …

        “Intelligence tests measure specific thinking skills, such as reasoning and comprehension. However, intelligence consists of multiple skills and ways of thinking that are affected by genetics, environment, opportunities and experiences.”

        http://classroom.synonym.com/disadvantages-intelligence-testing-6381904.html

        Here’s an idea of how ‘they’ can fit into Western society ….

        DON’T TAKE WESTERN INTELLIGENCE TESTS!

        • The ‘L’ and one ‘B’ …

          • Conspiratoor

             /  May 13, 2017

            parti my dear old thing. Settle down, breathe through your nose …and chew on this…

            https://en.europenews.dk/-Muslim-Inbreeding-Impacts-on-intelligence-sanity-health-and-society-78170.html

            • So C & C … Let me get this RIGHT … Firstly, a map of the world clearly divided along racial & cultural lines, with no sources or citation other than Eric Allen Bell’s personal blogsite … http://spencerwatch.com/tag/eric-allen-bell/ … and secondly, an article by Nicoli Sennels from a Far-Right anti-Muslim website …

              “Nicolai Sennels is a Danish psychologist with a history of anti-Muslim polemics. He has written numerous articles all disparaging Islam or Muslims. His work is posted on such disreputable sites as Jihad Watch, Death to Islam, Front Page magazine, Gates of Vienna, Pamela Geller’s Atlas Shrugs, etc. He is not published on any reputable sites. This is the sort of “scholar” that the Islamophobes are forced to resort to in order to continue fomenting anti-Muslim hatred. The use of the derogatory word “retarded” for people with intellectual disabilities in the title is in itself problematic.”

              http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/robert-spencer

              Or check out Fjordman on the same ‘Europenews’ site … Here’s a guy all-but defending Anders Breivik … I bet he wishes he’d thought of detonating a van-bomb killing 8 people as a distraction so he could shoot dead 69 young ‘socialists’ at their summer camp … ???

              https://en.europenews.dk/-Fjordman-The-Bias-and-Dishonesty-of-Wikipedia-78419.html

              Do you guys get paid by the word, paragraph or comment?

        • Corky

           /  May 13, 2017

          Quite true, Parti….but reasoning and comprehension cover a much ground. And you can’t tell me a person with a low IQ from a third world country will have much chance of comprehending the complexities of first nation life, assimilating it, and using it for the betterment of themselves and others.

          • Conspiratoor

             /  May 13, 2017

            As a wise old zen monk once told me. “By importing Calcutta, you do not help calcutta. You become calcutta”

            • Does that apply to Islamophobia too?

            • Gezza

               /  May 14, 2017

              No, only to Islamabad – which, when you think about it, is quite a good name for the place, given the context of the discussion. 😕

  4. Corky

     /  May 13, 2017

    Megan Kelly has left Fox News. Will anyone now watch?

  5. Corky

     /  May 13, 2017

    Watched Cindy give a speech at the Labour conference on telly tonight. She tried to give the impression of having ‘fire in her belly’, but it was too contrived. After the speech, she unbelievably pulled out her phone, took a picture of the audience, then while still on stage, turned the phone on herself and snapped a selfie…dear, oh dear, Cindy, Very unprofessional . I dread to think what Andy will get up to tomorrow.. perhaps a magic trick?

    • Gezza

       /  May 13, 2017

      Were you watching 1Ewes or that other shambles?

      • Corky

         /  May 14, 2017

        One News, I think. I was news surfing. Either them or Prime.

        • Gezza

           /  May 14, 2017

          Yeah, I watched that too. Katy Bradford’s item captured that scene at the end, which did make Jacinda look a right tit. But Katy Bradford imo is a totally useless political reporter who doesn’t like Labour. She always seems to look clips of events or comments that make Labour look bad. If you watch the clip PG’s posted of her whole speech today it puts what that “selfie-style” approach is about in more of a context -Jacinda is trying pitching directly to the non-voting selfie generation.