Suicide bomber may have manufactured

There are a number of reports that evidence of bomb making has been found in a flat used by the Manchester suicide bomber.

Stuff: Manchester suicide bomber might have made the bomb himself

A British suicide bomber who killed 22 people and wounded 116 might have made the bomb himself or with some assistance from an accomplice, a source with knowledge of the investigation told Reuters.

“The focus is still the search for accomplices and the network but he could have made this bomb himself,” the source told Reuters.

The source said that while the bomber may have had some assistance it was also possible that he made the bomb himself. Some investigators have feared that an experienced bomb-maker was at large.

Police said on Thursday (Friday NZ TIme) they had made significant arrests and uncovered important items as they investigate the Manchester suicide bombing.

Greater Manchester police are holding eight people in custody, having released a woman without charge on Thursday.

Chief Constable Ian Hopkins said the eight suspects detained so far were “significant” arrests and said the searches will take several more days to complete. Police have swooped in on multiple addresses in the northwestern city since Tuesday and those arrested include bomber Salman Abedi’s brother Ismail.

Hopkins did not elaborate on the material that has been found so far.

The Mirror: First pictures inside ‘bomb factory’ flat Salman Abedi used before Manchester massacre as neighbours describe “strong smell of explosives”

A security source said the bomb was made with hydrogen peroxide and could have been constructed “on a kitchen table”.

That doesn’t sound like a factory.

Sources told The Daily Telegraph there were two separate bomb factories, with the chemicals mixed in the rented flat in Granby Row before the bomb itself was assembled elsewhere.

It was not clear if the second flat had been discovered.

Authorities are also reported to have told ABC News they found a kind of bomb-making workshop in Abedi’s home and he had apparently stockpiled enough chemicals to make additional bombs.

 

 

 

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  1. Looks like Security forces have missed several opportunities to stifle/er -re-educate this increasingly dangerous and radical young man with “proven links” to ISIS.

    “Akram Ramadan, 49, part of the close-knit Libyan community in south Manchester, said Abedi had been banned from Didsbury Mosque after he had confronted the Imam who was delivering an anti-extremist sermon.

    Akram Ramadan, 49, a member of the south Manchester Libyan community where Abedi lived, said that Abedi had been banned from Didsbury Mosque after he confronted an imam who had delivered a sermon opposing extremism.

    Didsbury Mosque has confirmed that, following the incident, it contacted the Home Office’s Prevent anti-radicalisation programme to flag Abedi as a possible extremist.

    Mr. Ramadan said he believed that that report led to Abedi being placed on a watch list, yet he was allowed to travel to Libya and Syria repeatedly, before returning to Manchester to carry out his deadly plot.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/24/security-services-missed-five-opportunities-stop-manchester/

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    • Missy

       /  May 26, 2017

      In defence of the security forces, they currently have over 500 active investigations involving over 3000 people of interest, they have to make assessments based on what information they had, it would seem that they did not think this guy posed an immediate risk.

      Also, since the Westminster attack in March (2 months before the Manchester attack) the police and security services have stopped 5 terrorist plots in the UK.

      As the IRA once said about the security services ‘you have to be lucky 100% of the time, we only have to be lucky once’. This was their once.

      And on another note, there is another report that suggests it was nothing to do with his radicalised views that he was kicked out of the mosque, but rather that he took his prayer mat to the toilet.

      There are a lot of conflicting stories and second guessing by the media in this, and of course those that knew him who are rushing to the media to tell their story, which often contradicts the guy down the road’s story.

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  2. Missy

     /  May 26, 2017

    It would seem that the police believe that the bomber assembled the bomb, but did not actually make it, there are also fears that there may be more bombs out there. Pete you may not think that assembling the bomb on the kitchen table is a factory, but it seems the amount of material found in his flat makes the police believe there were at least two – if not more – bombs made that have been distributed to other potential bombers.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/25/manchester-attack-fears-second-bomb-police-find-huge-chemical/

    Note that one suspicious device was destroyed in a controlled explosion at the bomber’s home on Tuesday, and since then the police have carried out 2 further controlled explosions on suspicious devices in Manchester – the latest one today (thankfully nothing).

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    • Three meals a day are usually made at my home but it is not a food factory.

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      • Gezza

         /  May 26, 2017

        Well, actually it’s a meal factory if you have all the ingredients to manufacture several meals. If you also have the ingredients in your house to make more than one bomb it’s a bomb factory. Doesn’t matter in either case if you use your table as a work bench to assemble your meals or your bombs.

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        • Anonymous Coward

           /  May 26, 2017

          To be a true factory you’d have to be making the same meal over and over again using machinery.

          Factory is being used in a very emotive way in this case, it’s been deliberately chosen, not for accuracy of description, but to generate fear.

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          • Gezza

             /  May 26, 2017

            How do you know they didn’t use a cake mixer?

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            • Anonymous Coward

               /  May 26, 2017

              Sparks

            • Gezza

               /  May 26, 2017

              Good point.

            • Gezza

               /  May 26, 2017

              Electric Frypan? People use those to boil off isopropyl alcohol when manufacturing cannabis oil.

              I don’t think the term bomb factory is being used in a particularly emotive sense here, AC – although I suppose some people could. I took it as simply meaning they found evidence suggesting more than one explosive device could have been made there, as was the case with the Tsarnaevs home in the case of the Boston bombers.

              That is a real concern, particularly if there is the prospect of more people being involved. Let’s just hope they get them all. on Aljaz it was reported the Libyan authorities say his brother over there was planning another attack, although the father – who is in denial about it – may be released.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  May 26, 2017

              Stretch it how you will. A frypan is not a machine as much as this guys kitchen was not a factory.
              Factories have production lines, not tinkerers.
              The word everyone is looking for is…

              Workshop

          • Gezza

             /  May 26, 2017

            Well, I considered that, but the word *shop* in workshop put me off because there’s been no suggestion they might have been making them for sale. But I’ll stop here because it’s getting all too silly, really. I just hope they catch every bastard involved asap.

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            • Anonymous Coward

               /  May 26, 2017

              not that kind of shop

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  May 26, 2017

              Bomb factory does suggest mass or regular production, even if on a small scale. I do patchwork, but don’t have a factory. If I made a certain amount every week and sold it, then I might.

              I would guess that it’s not too hard to find out how to make bombs, it’s probably online.

  3. Kitty Catkin

     /  May 26, 2017

    Yes, it is quite easy to learn this.

    Bomb factory is quite possibly a press cliche. Factory does imply manufacture for supply.

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