Q+A: NZ First

Q+A are promoting the same old media Winston as kingmaker meme this morning:

NZ First looks set to be kingmaker again this election – where does Winston Peters draw his support? Whena Owen looks at who his voters are and why they support him.

Really not much new from this item, neither from the panel discussion.

Same old wily Winston.

Same old media promoting him as kingmaker.



  1. duperez

     /  June 4, 2017

    If Peters’ party is in the position to decide who becomes the Government after the election is he, according to the vernacular, the “kingmaker?”

    Is that expression the point of concern or the fact he could find himself in that situation? Or that the media by talking about such is “promoting” him in that role?

    • My problem is the media driving the possibility, which makes it more likely to happen.

      If Peters ended up in a position of power broking after a fair democratic process then I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

      The media has become too involved in picking candidates and disproportionately promoting them, or attacking disproportionately. This was raised to a new level in the US, and it is happening more here.

      • duperez

         /  June 4, 2017

        I get it, like the way polls are used here.

        • Yes, like the media use the polls – the polls themselves are useful, but the way they are reported and used to create faux news is either ignorance or deliberate misinformation.

  2. Yes, it’s interesting. He has positioned himself perfectly to hold the middle ground. He speaks to ordinary NZers, so has overlap with Labour, but many of his policies are conservative so there’s overlap with National. I am sure he recognises that National will be easier to work with but it will come down to who is more desperate, particularly if he genuinely wants to be PM!

    • “He speaks to ordinary NZers”.

      To some. Not to others, especially to the many immigrants or families of immigrants – a big proportion of New Zealand families have immigrants.

      • Gezza

         /  June 4, 2017

        Some of their policies will be attractive to many, especially in the regions I think. Although they don’t distill them & promote the key ones as bullet points. So they don’t get pressured to say how they’d pay for them, I suspect.

  3. Bill Brown

     /  June 4, 2017

    The young chap on the show used to work in Parliament so assume him talking of the Jones influence is one of being in the know

  4. NZ First policy doesn’t seem to match Peters’ rhetoric. Take immigration:

    New Zealand First will:

    – Make sure that Kiwi workers are at the front of the job queue.
    – Ensure that immigration policy is based on New Zealand’s interests and the main focus is on meeting critical skills gaps.
    – Ensure family reunion members are strictly controlled and capped and there is fairness across all nationalities.
    – Ensure that there is effective labour market testing to ensure New Zealanders have first call on New Zealand jobs.
    – Introduce a cap on the number of older immigrants because of the impact on health and other services.
    – Make sure effective measures are put in place to stop the exploitation of migrant workers with respect to wages, safety and work conditions. In Christchurch and elsewhere there is evidence of exploitation of migrant workers.
    – Develop strategies to encourage the regional dispersion of immigration to places other than Auckland. Auckland’s infrastructure is overloaded.
    – Remove the ability to purchase a pre-paid English lesson voucher to bypass the minimum English entry requirements.

    Most of that could just about be any party’s policy.

    Rt Hon Winston Peters MP on this policy

    “New Zealand First is committed to a rigorous and strictly applied immigration policy that serves New Zealand’s interests. Immigration should not be used as a source of cheap labour to undermine New Zealanders’ pay and conditions.”

    That’s not quite how he puts it usually from what I’ve seen.