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  1. Missy

     /  June 21, 2017

    Yesterday the Brexit negotiations between the EU and the UK began.

    Sadly for those holding out hope for a softer Brexit both David Davis and the EU made it clear that was not an option.

    Britain conceded on the timetable for the talks, and it is being spun as an early loss in the negotiations for the UK. The Brexit Bill, Irish Border, and rights for EU citizens in the UK are to be dealt with prior to the trade talks.

    David Davis is off to Spain today to talk Brexit.

  2. Gezza

     /  June 21, 2017

    Aljazeera tv

    Australia has suspended its air operations in Syria, following Russia’s announcement it will treat coaltion aircraft as targets after the US shot down a Syrian warplane.
    1 am.

  3. Gezza

     /  June 21, 2017

    Otto Warmbier dies
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/american-detainees-death-north-korea-baffles-experts-48149058

    Was on Aljaz tv last night. Very sad to hear. Father & President Trump gave short, moving tributes of their own.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  June 21, 2017

      The inquest will be fraught.

    • A very sad and concerning case.

      But I think it’s fair to ask who would risk visiting North Korea in the first place.

      • Gezza

         /  June 21, 2017

        I don’t think Trump & Co will let this one go unpunished.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  June 21, 2017

          Yup, there’s nothing like a war to boost flagging support for a president – the “rally round the flag” syndrome…

          – Kennedy: the Cuban missile crisis
          – Carter: Iran hostage crisis
          – Bush snr: Desert Storm
          – Bush jnr: War on Terror

          combine that with the inward focus in America and a lame duck president, and the rally could be huge – just like the one George Dubya enjoyed post-9/11

      • Gareth Morgan! Did this happen to Gareth as well while he was in North Korea and Gareth just hasn’t noticed yet????

  4. Joe Bloggs

     /  June 21, 2017

    The chief law enforcement officer and chief lawyer of the US government needs a lawyer. Priceless.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338664-sessions-hires-his-own-lawyer

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  June 21, 2017

      In America, everyone needs a lawyer. Even the President.

  5. After endless months of horrific terrorist attacks by Muslims butchering hundreds of innocents throughout Britain and Europe – forever swept under the carpet by the authorities with cries of “Nothing to do with Islam”, while exhorting the people to “carry on as normal and light a candle”, and arresting anyone who dares to criticise Islam – one guy from Cardiff finally flips his lid and drives a van into Muslims as they leave a mosque renowned for peddling violent terrorism throughout the country.

    An old man who is already collapsed on the ground dies, possibly as a result. The Imam is all over the media hailed as a “hero”. The PM condemns it in much stronger terms than she ever does Muslim terrorism, immediately calling it a “terrorist attack” when it clearly was no such thing, and promptly instigates a massive ‘Islamophobia’ witch-hunt. The Muslim Mayor of London instantly reverses his policy of terrorism being “part & parcel of life” and cancels all Police leave to guard his mosques. Other mosques as far as Scotland are surrounded by armed forces. And the son of the rental van’s owner is arrested for suggesting that a road-roller might have been more effective.

    Something is very amiss in that once lovely and tolerant old country of mine. The authorities must be either closet Muslims or servants of Coudenhove-Kalergi; or perhaps just blind, incomprehensibly stupid and cowardly. Any which way, they are clearly not fit to run the country, and I think this incident, or more accurately the dishonest, hysterical and disgracefully Muslim-biased response to it from politicians, police and press, could prove to be a disastrous watershed in the collapse of that once-noblest of civilisations.

    The authorities have now made it very clear to the resident Infidels that the Muslims are considered more important than they are. It is a massive understatement to say this will end in tears. Theresa May should “beware the fury of the patient man”-in-the-street. Does she really think the British people will forever stand around like lemons lighting candles as their civilisation is methodically torn down around them, with the shameless connivance of her Government?

    • Blazer

       /  June 21, 2017

      prove your first sentence,then we will deal…with the..rest…’After endless months of horrific terrorist attacks by Muslims butchering hundreds of innocents throughout Britain and Europe ‘

      • patupaiarehe

         /  June 21, 2017

        The word you are looking for, Blazer, is ‘hyperbole’…
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
        You’re welcome… 🙂

        • Blazer

           /  June 21, 2017

          thats a very charitable explanation.

          • patupaiarehe

             /  June 21, 2017

            And charity begins at home. You should try it sometime… 😉

      • High Flying Duck

         /  June 21, 2017

        Here’s a good list to start you off:

        https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/europe-attacks.aspx

        or:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe_(2014%E2%80%93present)

        “France is a top-targeted country, with nineteen attacks occured between December 2014 and April 2017,[4] including the January 2015 Île-de-France attacks, the November 2015 Paris attacks, and the July 2016 Nice truck attack. In the United Kingdom attacks have ocurred since early 2017 including the March 2017 Westminster attack, the May 2017 Manchester Arena bombing, and the June 2017 London Bridge attack. Other attacks in Europe include the Jewish Museum of Belgium shooting , the March 2016 Brussels suicide bombings, the December 2016 Berlin Christmas market attack, and the April 2017 Saint Petersburg Metro bombing. Another commonly targeted place is the Turkish city of Istanbul, which was attacked in January 2016, June 2016 and January 2017.”

        • Thank you HFD. That information is hardly secret; I am surprised you seem the only one who can find it.

          TheReligionofPeace.com quotes the following figures for Ramadan 2017:
          Muslim terrorist attacks: 152 with 1389 deaths
          All other religious attacks: 0 with 0 deaths
          Cardiff man attacks: 1 with 1 possible death.

    • Missy

       /  June 23, 2017

      And the press are jumping to the conclusion the man from Cardiff is a ‘radicalised’ right wing supremacist, even though all evidence suggests he was a drunk bullying thug with mental health and anger issues.

      The liberal left have been trying hard to blame the right wing media, Nigel Farage, and Katie Hopkins for inciting the attack, (not sure who incited the London Bridge, Westminster, or Manchester attacks they haven’t told us that), with no evidence at all that the guy has any connection to right wing extremist groups. He has been labelled EDL and BNP with absolutely no evidence – interestingly being from Cardiff he is statistically more likely to be a labour voter.

      • But he surely could have been (and probably was to an extent) influenced and encouraged to an extent to those who very publicly stir up division and intolerance?

        There is always a danger that inflammatory and inciteful rhetoric will encourage a nutter to do something stupid.

        • Missy

           /  June 23, 2017

          There is no evidence at this stage, so it is irresponsible for anyone to suggest that. The police have not released any information to say what has inspired him, all anyone know is that friends and family said he changed after the London Bridge attack and got very angry with Muslims.

          But lets say he was influenced by those who publicly stir up division and intolerance. I assume you will assume people like the EDL, UKIP, Katie Hopkins, but they aren’t stirring up as much division as the authorities. When a London MP refuses to call a terrorist attack terrorism when committed by Islamic extremists, when the police refuse to act on complaints about hate speech by Muslims in the street, when the authorities refuse to ban a pro Hezbollah march, when the police are seen to be protecting Islamic extremists, when the Mayor of Manchester blames the EDL for violence at an anti terrorist march (organised by families of the Manchester victims, not the EDL) that was started by pro Muslim groups, when people who speak out against Islamic extremism are labelled racists bigots and EDL supporters, when the police lock up someone for saying something against Muslims on twitter but not hate preachers for telling their followers to kill non believers, when ordinary people in working class areas are called racists and bigots and are ignored by the authorities, when girls who have been groomed and gang raped are told they are not allowed to say the religion or ethnicity of their attackers, when it takes 10 years for anyone to do anything about Muslim grooming gangs, when all of that happens divisions are sown in society, intolerance is bred through the authorities fear of being labelled racist and bigoted.

          There is no one easy answer as to why this man did what he did, but I would suggest that he wasn’t ‘inspired’ by anyone, but rather he – like so many in this country – feel like their culture, their heritage, and their country is being eroded by a culture that is incompatible with their views. The divisions and intolerance are not being stirred up against Muslims by what some people say, they are being stirred up through perceived (rightly or wrongly) inaction by the authorities, by the perceived special treatment of the Muslim community, and by being told again and again they must be the one’s to compromise and to accept but the Muslims are free to abuse, to hate, and to advocate killing the non-believers.

          The true hate is not being preached by the media, or UKIP, or the EDL, the true hate is in the mosques, and the authorities are too scared to do anything about it, the hate towards the Muslims is a reflection of what many believe is being directed towards them.

        • Missy

           /  June 23, 2017

          “There is always a danger that inflammatory and inciteful rhetoric will encourage a nutter to do something stupid.”

          Like the hateful rhetoric being spouted by Muslim clerics in the Mosque? Like the hateful rhetoric I am subjected to reasonably regularly by Muslim men? Like the hateful rhetoric the ever so liberal companies like Facebook and twitter allow on their sites by ISIS? Like the hateful rhetoric that was spouted by Lee Rigby’s killer in the months leading up to his murder?

          That kind of hateful rhetoric, the kind that calls all white women whores, the kind that says all soldiers should be murdered, the kind that says non-believers of Islam don’t deserve to live?

          That is hateful rhetoric, and more hateful than anything I have heard from the far right in this country.

          I am not excusing the far right, but until the liberal lefties and authorities wake up and do something about what is being said in the mainstream Muslim communities in this country then there will continue to be intolerance and division and the far right will continue to rise in popularity. It is those with their head in the sand acting as apologists for Islamic terror (or failing to even acknowledge it is terrorism) that are fuelling the divisions and fuelling the far – and centre – right, and more reasonable people as well.

          • Yes, the hateful and inflammatory rhetoric comes from both sides.

            There are people on both sides who want to incite division and violence. One helps the aims of the other. Both deserve condemnation.

            • Missy

               /  June 23, 2017

              Maybe, but to be honest the inflammatory rhetoric is much worse from Muslims than anyone else.

              And there is still no evidence to date that this guy was influenced by any ‘inflammatory rhetoric’, so reporting of it is irresponsible and premature. I am surprised you actually are implying that he was influenced by any rhetoric without evidence, or more information, you have been much more cautious about jumping to conclusions when Islamic terror attacks happen.

              It has been interesting here, so many jumping to conclusions about this guy – his politics, his motives etc, he was immediately labelled a terrorist, and condemned by all, including MPs. But interestingly these are the same people that take the softly softly approach when it is Islamic Terror. In particular one MP who refused to call Manchester or London Bridge terror attacks, but rather ‘incidences’, but the Finsbury Park attack was immediately called a terror attack by the same MP. The inconsistency in how attacks are reported, labelled, and treated in the aftermath just fuels the divisions in society. The useful idiots on the left are not helping to diffuse these divisions.

              I believe that it will be difficult for the authorities to get a conviction on terror charges for this attack, this guy is not a terrorist and it should be easy for a good lawyer to get him off on the terrorism charges. The CPS and Police would have been better served to charge him with a hate crime and attempted murder, not terrorism and attempted murder, (they might be able to get him on attempted murder).

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  June 21, 2017

    Republicans retain House seats in Georgia and North Carolina despite Democrats spending megabucks on the campaigns. Trump keeps winning.