Labour interns – follow the money rumours

The Labour Party, with the help of an uninquisitive media, seems to have weathered the issue reasonably well – for now. They have managed to put off questions about McCarten and others campaigning while paid by Parliamentary services, and about the source of what has been intimated to be a substantial donor.

Kicking the can down the road will only spread out the story. There are inquiries pending both with the Privileges Committee and with the Electoral Commission.

David Farrar at Kiwiblog:  Electoral Commission letter re Campaign for Change

Below is a letter I sent to the Electoral Commission earlier this week. Labour often go on about the need for transparency over political donations, so I hope they will co-operate in determining who the mystery donor is.

The specific issues I wish the Electoral Commission to consider is whether the reported donation to the Campaign for Change should be regarded as a donation to Labour and if over $30,000 reported within 10 working days.

I also would like considered whether any of the expenses incurred by the Coalition for Change should be treated as expenses by Labour, if they fall within the regulated period.

A separate issue to this is any investigation by The Parliamentary Service into how Matt McCarten was setting this all up while employed by them.

Keeping Stock advises there is a separate investigation.

I lodged a complaint with the Speaker last week about the possible misuse of taxpayer funds by Labour. I have had a reply informing me that the complaint has been passed to the Parliamentary Service to investigate. I hope that investigation is comprehensive, and that Mr Little, the budget-holder is open and transparent about how a significant sum of public money has been spent.

I understand there may be multiple complaints being dealt with in Parliament.

Andrew Little and Andrew Kirton tried to limit the story to dealing with the complaints by the international students.

Labour have had the troops out with similar stories, like this from Willie Jackson (Labour list candidate) at The Daily Blog: GUEST BLOG: Willie Jackson – Compare Labour Intern ‘scandal’ with National’s week of lies

But what was actually true? It turns out that the vast majority of students had a great time, that only two Interns had complaints and that while one shower was broken, there were actually 8 showers at the Marae.

How did Labour handle it? They immediately moved in and took the internship over from my mate Matt McCarten and looked after every student. Labour Leader Andrew Little took responsibility for it, admitted the program had been too successful and hadn’t been able to grow quickly enough to sustain its goals of engaging young New Zealander’s with the democratic process.

While the story was overblown, Labour acknowledged that mistakes had been made and we immediately owned those mistakes and set about ensuring every student was looked after.

We need Politicians who aren’t afraid to admit mistakes and who move to fix those mistakes as soon as they become apparent, we don’t need politicians who tell us different stories that keep turning out to be false.

But Labour have not fixed the mistakes as soon as they became apparent. Andrew Little has admitted knowing about the ‘unauthorised scheme’ in May but said he only took action last week, in mid-June.

Both Little and Kirton ininitally tried to distance themselves and Labour from the scheme and the problems, but as details emerged it became obvious that Laboue was closely involved, and earlier this week Kirton conceded ‘Auckland Labour Party’ responsible for intern scheme.

With Labour’s avoidance of being forthright about the key issues – the student complaints were relatively minor, as was Labour’s hypocrisy – there has been speculation about the donor.

Stuff reported on Thursday:

McCarten’s original plan was to have union funding, but it seems that was not forthcoming.

A big donor did back the plan, but their identity has not been released to the party or to the public.

Little said the party had disclosure obligations, both in terms of donors and spending. The party was dealing with that.

Dealing with it slowly. Farrar:  Who is the mystery donor?

I believe the donation to the campaign was an effective donation to Labour and if over $15,000 (I hear it is well over $100,000) needs to be declared to the Electoral Commission.

The whisper I have heard is that the identity of the donor will cause huge embarrassment as the donor is an entity funded by the taxpayer to provide social services.

I look forward to Labour revealing who the donor is. It’s ridiculous to claim they don’t know when the entire campaign was run by Labour party staff and officers.

There are whispers around. I don’t know if they have some basis in reasonable suspicion or are just attempts to join some dots.

Ex National MP @tauhenare:

&John, I’ve heard a rumor and it’s only a rumor that (Waipareira and or MUMA) were the ones behind funding

… I hope it ain’t so, more shit on us if it’s true.

this needs to be a public condemnation of scurrilous rumours. Put it to bed immediately. If they don’t it hurts all Maori.

Ringing and texting apopo, will publically back them when they tell me straight up if ain’t them. I trust them to allay my fears.

Henare is referring to Te Whānau O Waipareira Trust and Manakau Urban Maori Authority. I’ll keep an eye on whether he gets a response.

I have heard them suggested as possible donors elsewhere. If they are not involved in the intern scheme then it’s unfair for them to be seen as linked.

I note that Willie Jackson is both the and Maori Campaign Director for Labour and “the chief executive for MUMA, chairman of the National Māori Radio Network – Te Whakaruruhau o Ngā Reo Irirangi Māori, and chairman of the National Urban Māori Authority.”

It would help if the Waipereira Trust and MUMA make statements on either their involvement or their lack of involvement.

It’s unfortunate they are in this position – if Labour were as open and honest and moral and as quick to take responsibility as they have claimed to be over this issue then they would have avoided this situation of uncertainty.

I think it really is Labour’s responsibility to clear this up urgently. Otherwise this could drag on into the election campaign and get very awkward for them.

 

 

 

 

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  1. Steveremmington

     /  July 1, 2017

    Ask Brendon Lane

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  2. Gezza

     /  July 1, 2017

    The Todd Barclay affair & any related spin off issues are paling into what was already insignificance compared to Andrew Little’s excuses & the increasing spread of collaterally damaged organisations & individuals.

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    • PDB

       /  July 1, 2017

      No good can come from having McCarten and then Jackson in your party…………when did Willie suddenly join the Labour party again? Feb wasn’t it? and what sort of leverage over Labour did he have that allowed him to travel all the way to parliament to complain about his list place? Why ‘out of the blue’ was he ‘promised’ a high place on the Labour list in the first instance?

      Unlike what we are told Labour haven’t dealt with this at all and have tried to hide their involvement and it’s set to effect their run in to the election.

      If either the Te Whānau O Waipareira Trust or Manakau Urban Maori Authority are involved in funding a Labour election scheme then even the MSM can’t avoid reporting the stench that will result.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 1, 2017

        If either the Te Whānau O Waipareira Trust or Manakau Urban Maori Authority are involved in funding a Labour election scheme then even the MSM can’t avoid reporting the stench that will result.

        No. Not if National have figured out how to make it a ‘must be msm-reported’ item – which is not at all difficult.

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        • There were some claims that the intern story was deliberately times to deflect from the Barclay story. I think the timing was more of Labour’s doing, trying to pre-empt and control what they knew was going to come out.

          But the crunch – looking at the serious issues rather than a bit of hypocrisy and a few overseas interns complaining – may well be something that can be influenced and timed by National.

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        • PDB

           /  July 1, 2017

          I suggest National know more on this matter then they are letting on…………timing is everything in politics.

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    • Blazer

       /  July 1, 2017

      what rot….this is a Shakespearean play…’much ado ..about nothing’….kept alive by the usual…malcontents.

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      • PDB

         /  July 1, 2017

        If you play this down enough Blazer you might even convince………………yourself.

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        • Blazer

           /  July 1, 2017

          whats the…crime?,oh thats right…no one knows,but they hope one will ..appear.

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          • PDB

             /  July 1, 2017

            Again you deflect by talking of no ‘crime’, but ignore the issues of Little’s/Labour’s dishonesty, deflection, blaming other people, and cover up that seriously dents their (already poor) election hopes.

            A ‘crime’ may simply be the icing on the cake once this all comes out in public.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 1, 2017

          Who is that delusional chap & why is he still wandering the streets? It certainly leads credence to the claims National really is failing in the area of addressing shortcomings in the mental health services.

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          • Blazer

             /  July 1, 2017

            well if you see him standing on the road,with a heavy load,(don’t help him),just stop and say…you’re going ..the wrong..way.(G.Campbell)

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            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              😮 OMG❗️ You’re not the Witchita Lineperson, are you❓ 😳

            • PDB

               /  July 1, 2017

              I think you’re onto something G – these lines from the song seem especially pertinent to Blazer;

              “I hear you singin’ in the wire,
              I can hear you through the whine
              And the Wichita lineman is still on the line”

  3. Corky

     /  July 1, 2017

    I continuously harp on about the ‘ luck of National.’ The above is a reason why. It seems someone is continuously applying a malicious influence over Labour… perhaps someone is?

    One things for sure, it would be wise for Leftie commentators to be circumspect about bandying around accusation of National Party ‘dirty dealings,’ even if true. That’s called hypocrisy…or put another way….losing an election.

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    • Blazer

       /  July 1, 2017

      luck is all National ever have.No vision,no statesmen,no plans for NZ’s future generations or the environment.Hopeless.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 1, 2017

        Accepting for the sake of argument that you might be correct, who do you think would be better?

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        • Blazer

           /  July 1, 2017

          you’ve asked this question ,many times before….and I’ve answered it…many times…before.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 1, 2017

            I think I’ve actually asked that specific question about twice before. I honestly can’t remember your answers. They’re often a bit obscure or evasive, though, to be fair. Was it Labour?

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  4. Tipene

     /  July 1, 2017

    Flip, if taxpayer money tagged for social service delivery has been re-directed towards a partisan political campaign for no social service outcome, then I would imagine that the MSD’s Community Investment team will be all over this.

    If the Waipareira Trust and MUMA are involved, and given 880 new social service delivery contracts are being either finalised or issued in the next fortnight or so, and if the MSD (as an example) is seen to re-issue contracts to service providers on the back of previous funding being misappropriated – what a mess.

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    • If this is the case it’ll be very sad as well as politically catastrophic. It’ll bring the worst aspects of anti-Māori, positive discrimination and the treaty hating crowd from the woodwork. Using taxpayers money, specifically targeted for social services to Māori and redistributing it to foreign activist interns to spread Labour’s message? Surely not!

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  5. Cross-posted (unashamedly) from Kiwiblog’s General Debate thread this morning, because I am about to go out for breakfast and don’t have the time to re-type!

    Little claims to have shown leadership by front-footing this. The reality however is somewhat different.

    Either he has known about this for a long time earlier than Monday 19th June, in which case he has misled the public and the Parliamentary Service. The alternative is that this entire scam has been going on under his nose without his knowledge or permission, and his staff have deliberately broken the rules around taxpayer funded election campaigning.

    Neither alternative does him credit, and both go right to the heart of his fitness to lead New Zealand. If he has been part of a deliberate campaign to mislead, he should apologise and resign. If however he cannot even manage one rogue employee, how can he expect to manage an ambitious Cabinet and Caucus, especially when that Cabinet is likely to require the presence of Parliament’s rogue of longest standing, Rt Hon Winston Peters?

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    • He invited the stoats into the hen house willingly – he had a chance to clean house when he took over from Cunliffe but chose to stand pat with staff and allow the stoats to continue their alliance ways…. reap what you sow maybe KS…

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      • Blazer

         /  July 1, 2017

        is there are metaphors and cliche virus..going around..here?

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        • Whats the matter Blazer…… is the thread not to your liking? Oh dear, how sad ….. never mind.

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    • There is a lot of debate around this aspect of the deal and rightly so. People’s experience is that the entire tone and culture of any organisation is set by it’s leader. It cuts to the core of this issue, as it’ll be all voters are ultimately left with after the turmoil dies down. Has a leader conducted themselves with relative dignity, integrity and aplomb? Did they resolve a perceived issue? The way a leader conducts themselves shows the nation how they’ll handle the coalface and looking in control is paramount.

      In this instance with Little, it’s hard to say which is worse for his public image, actually being onboard and denying it or claiming he was kept in the dark about sinister aspects by rogue operatives. For my part, I say presently he looks weak, which is very much worse than simply flawed. He needs to take a scrag hold of the Bradbury, McCarten types, the uber ideological would be Corbynistas, the missing million musterers, the hate the centre caterers and he needs to close them down once and for all. Without Dotty and Mana, their activist options are limited. Even they know pragmatically they haven’t time left to wage or campaign let alone another team to barrack for.

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      • Blazer

         /  July 1, 2017

        Keys M.O was to lie,and then lie again and to keep on…lying.Worked well for him,voters not too concerned..at all.

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        • Key is no longer PM or an MP.

          Little and Labour are trying to win an election. They have a problem in front of them and are either trying to bury it, or don’t know how to deal with it. Very risky.

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          • Blazer

             /  July 1, 2017

            you ,among others are desperately trying to uncover a ‘problem’…that does not..exist.

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            • PDB

               /  July 1, 2017

            • There’s a problem all right Blazer; several of them, in fact. There’s the potential unlawful spending of taxpayer funds by Labour on election campaigning (expressly prohibited by the Parliamentary Service), Labour not disclosing a donation well above the threshhold which has to be disclosed within 10 days or receipt, and then there’s the allegation that a government funded social services provider has inappropriately used public money to support a political party. Taxpayers don’t like their money being used unlawfully, and it is good that both the Parliamentary Service and Electoral Commission have been asked to investigate this.

              And there is also the possibility that a donation has been made to a political party in return for a list position. Is that how democracy is supposed to work? It’s all possible that this has happened in a party which has repeatedly claimed over the years to be trying to eliminate the influence of money in election campaigns.

              If any of these allegations has any substance, Labour is in a power of hurt. If all of them do, I’ll leave the outcome up to your imagination.

          • Blazer

             /  July 1, 2017

            who’as the M.P for Helensville..these days?

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            • Helensville has been deserted, as has New Lynn. I don’t know if the ex-MP party offices are still operating.

            • Blazer

               /  July 1, 2017

              @PG…you avoided my question….heres the answer…’Key will continue as Helensville’s MP as to not trigger a byelection.’.Just admit you were wrong.

            • He did continue as MP so as not to trigger a by-election. As did Cunliffe. Then they resigned and left when a by-election could be legally avoided.

        • PDB

           /  July 1, 2017

          Blazer’s M.O is to deflect,and then deflect again and to keep on…deflecting.Working badly for him,voters are getting concerned, especially as the real Labour cover up starts to unravel.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 1, 2017

          So, fundamentally, Blazer, you are saying that voters are not up to your standard of superior intellect, bring easily & completely hoodwinked, unable to see through the true horrors of the evil National administration – which has done no good, at all anywhere, ever – to think for themselves, & to be turned to the light, overcome with rage, like you, and determined to turf them out of office as they deserve. Is that correct?

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          • Blazer

             /  July 1, 2017

            no,I said nothing of the sort.I have an opinion of my own,as do others.You could well direct your inaccurate ponderings at your….. own political leanings.

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            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              Oh. Ok. Thank you. I don’t have any fixed, dedicated, unquestionning political leanings any more. The Douglas & then the Clark administrations finally cured me of that. I tend to review my beliefs and reasons for them on a frequent basis, analysing & considering whatever new information I have acquired, cross-checking it against any competing information already stored or advanced as counter arguments, then reviewing what my opinion now is on the basis of what currently seems to me to be the most correct & sensible conclusion. I find that the best way to apply whatever intelligence & intellect I have been either cursed or blessed with.

            • Blazer

               /  July 1, 2017

              you are a wonderful,thoughtful,and thoroughly…supercilious..individual.

            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              No. I’m not. Although I do understand why that is how you would see me. As we have discussed recently in some detail.

              It’s to do with the inherently hostile & negative way you perceive perspectives or opinions different from yours, and your generally angry & dissatisfied personality.

              The reason you have this view of me is sometimes called projecting. There seems to be little prospect of you altering how you incorrectly see me to be because I really do think the cause is pathological.

            • Blazer

               /  July 1, 2017

              @Gezza,thank you for your psychological analysis….of how I see the world.What sort of future,can I look ..forward to?

            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              Bleak. Whether you succeed in life or not, you will still have bleak outlook.

            • Blazer

               /  July 1, 2017

              @Gezza…how will I know if I have …succeeded?

            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              Your perceived enemies will all be broke, in jail, stricken with appalling diseases, or dead, & you will have all their possessions – or at the very least the knowledge that, if they still have them, they cannot enjoy them.

            • Blazer

               /  July 1, 2017

              @Gezza,an interesting attempt at defining…success…not many will give it a go.Based on material possessions ,so does not reflect my ethos.

            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              Dear Mr Blazer

              It’s possible your ethos is driven by your lack of them. I am nevertheless reasonably comfortable with the prediction that while you may never be truly happy about things in general in your life, you would at least highly likely be slightly less aggrieved were your enemies to find themselves broke, in jail, dead, and either deprived of their possessions [*Ill-gotten gains] or unable to enjoy them.

              I realise my diagnosis & prognosis are difficult to accept. If you would like a second opinion, I am happy to review several days of your posts, think about them, consider whether they reveal any new insights I may have missed, and give you a second opinion.

              I hasten to add, the above is my unbiased opinion. I decided not to give you my biased opinion for fear that it would induce in you a terrible rage which might cause you to harm do accidental harm to yourself and/or to your meagre possessions or the possessions of others persons in unhappy proximity.

              There will be no charge for my services. As always.
              Sir Gerald.

            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              PS: If you know of a good secretary whose proof-reading is better than mine, I would be pleased if you would help put me in touch with said secretary.

            • Blazer

               /  July 1, 2017

              @Gezza,I trust you thinking you can offer a second opinion,does not in anyway ,indicate that you are..schizophrenic.One is normal and..enough.

            • Gezza

               /  July 1, 2017

              Thank you for your kind thoughts there Mr Blazer. No, definitely not schizophrenic. I had a flatmate who was. Very. And two immediate neighbours whose son was tragically shot dead by a paranoid schizophrenic who refused to medicate in the Raurimu Massacre.

        • Who is this Keys fellow to whom you refer Blazer>

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          • Blazer

             /  July 1, 2017

            just for you..Key’s.

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            • What is the proportion of posts threadjacked by you B?

              Bringing up the former PM a every turn is beyond tiresome

  6. lurcher1948

     /  July 1, 2017

    No one cares out there in the real world

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    • How do you know this?

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    • PDB

       /  July 1, 2017

      They soon will Lurch, the whole thing is about to implode at the worst possible time for Labour.

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      • Blazer

         /  July 1, 2017

        when is it going to…implode….?

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        • PDB

           /  July 1, 2017

          When the timing is right…….

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        • lurcher1948

           /  July 1, 2017

          Read all the biased false news :)sites like stuff nothing,now will read the non biased sites:( like W/O and kiwiblog full of it(slave interns) with posts from educated non biased posters 🙂

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        • Let’s just say that DPF believes in not asking questions he doesn’t already know the answer to.

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  7. PDB

     /  July 1, 2017

    What about repaying the 20 or so interns back for any costs they incurred when they were stopped from coming to NZ last week?

    I like this bit of nonsense in the following email from Andrew Kirton: “Due to organizational issues at the 2017 Labour campaign Fellowship programme in Auckland, the NZLP has recently stepped in to offer its management assistance”

    No mention of it NOT being a Labour programme then? And the Labour party has ‘stepped in’ to sort out a Labour-run programme?

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  8. PDB

     /  July 1, 2017

    The never-ending lies of Andrew Kirton……in his world Matt McCarten is totally to blame for ‘expanding out quite significantly’ the intern programme to around 80 students whilst the original proposal in the beginning under Labour was to cater for 100 foreign students.

    Newshub, 28th June 2017: Kirton: “It started off as a Labour Party project – not too dissimilar to what we’ve done in the past. The problem with this though was it was expanded out quite significantly by Matt McCarten with support from the Auckland Labour Party”.

    Newshub, 23rd June: “Newshub has obtained internal documents outlining Labour’s ambitious plans to put foreign students to work on its campaign.””The budgeting was based on 100 students staying for an average of eight weeks.”

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