Open Forum – Tuesday

4 July 2017

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34 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  July 4, 2017

    Bag of nerves. Always like this. Why in God’s name did I agree to do a flipping concert!! It’s horrible getting up in front of people worrying you’re going to stuff up & sound terrible and you’ve gotta keep going for an hour. Probably be all right on the nite. Well, morning. Hopefully. See yous. 😬

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  July 4, 2017

      Without giving too much away G are you able to describe the mental capacity and average age of the audience?

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    • Corky

       /  July 4, 2017

      Yea, you will walk through the valley of dying onstage…for the whole world to laugh at you.
      Been there once, and was told- ” hey, fella! get off and let that other fella have a go.
      Only happened once. In fact, I have only played once. I am still in therapy having my damaged ego repaired.

      I sure you will do well. But if you don’t, remember you are travelling a well worn path. Even Mikey King has died on stage a few times.One other tip that may be useful..if you bomb, don’t hang around. People love tee off.. Have that drink when you get home. Then find a therapist the next day.

      Good luck, and always think positive.

      .

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 4, 2017

      Simple rule is have fun and everyone else will have fun. Don’t take it too seriously, and enjoy yourself, G. Good luck but you won’t need it.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 4, 2017

        It was all right on the nite! Screwed up a bit on HTW & 8 days a week but covered up well I thought (giggling helped – did two of the same verse for one song but some of their memories aren’t great so they probably didn’t notice). Aced the rest. Did 3 of my own. They got the best reception. I do it becoz they need entertainment & they appreciate it. Their days are long and some of them can’t communicate well so they’re lonely.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 4, 2017

          The PDT needs serious therapy, G. You are a good man.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 4, 2017

            Well, thanks. I know there’s still room for a lot of improvement Alan.

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          • Gezza

             /  July 4, 2017

            The concert? – yes. 11am till 12.
            The self-improvement? No it’s a work in progress. I’m never completely satisfied with the results of the last attempt.

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            • Congrats Gezza. It sounds like you went very well. If you gave your listeners half the pleasure you give some here with your good humour ( largely)wit and charm that’d have to be a success.

              #sarcasmfreezone.

  2. Gezza

     /  July 4, 2017

    18 to 80’s Couldn’t tell you the average. Depends who sees it in the activity programme and comes along, or stops by to listen & evaluate on breaks – they all do, even the kitchen staff sneak in. Staff, family, residents. It’s worse when they know you.

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    • Gezza

       /  July 4, 2017

      Plus I’ve pulled my bloody back muscles rehearsing Honky Tonk Women – don’t ask ! Cya.

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  3. sorethumb

     /  July 4, 2017

    “Opinion polls”, it reads, “are a device for influencing public opinion, not a device for measuring it. Crack that, and it all makes sense.”
    Peter Hitchin’s Tweet.
    ………
    Last month, UMR Research published a revealing survey about New Zealanders’ attitudes to immigration.

    As could be expected for a largely migrant nation, New Zealanders are more positive towards immigration than negative – by 34 percent to 23 percent, with 41 percent unsure. Younger people are the most accommodating, with over half of 18 to 29 year-olds agreeing that increasing the number of immigrants will make New Zealand a better place. In comparison, only a third of those aged 45 or older were positive about immigration, with a third of all respondents unsure.
    http://www.nzcpr.com/immigration-matters/
    So why is David Farrar panicking on Kiwblog?
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/greens_apologise_for_immigration_policy.html
    AsiaNZ Foundation has bumped approval of Asian immigration up over the 50% line (compared to the previous year) despite the “chinky sounding names” furor.

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    • Mefrostate

       /  July 4, 2017

      Summarising results of the UMR poll, just for fun:

      More people were overall positive about immigration (34%) than negative (23%), but a large chunk were undecided (43%).

      40% think diversity makes New Zealand a better place, compared to 23% worse. Again, many undecided. NZ First were the other way around at 19% worse, 42% better.

      When it came to specifics though, just over 50% thought the numbers of PR and work visas issued last year were too high (compared to 39% about right).

      Many think we’re unprepared to accommodate population growth, particularly on housing (68%), transport (53%) and health system (52%).

      Strong agreement that we should ban overseas buyers of New Zealand property (61% agree compared to 17% disagree)

      40% thought we should ban the burqa, with this strongly increasing with age.

      51% think we have discussed immigration too little in the last year, compared to 24% the right amount.

      People negative about immigration felt most strongly that a) NZ isn’t our country any more, b) infrastructure cannot cope, and c) it pushes up house prices.

      Those positive about immigration felt that it a) makes NZ more interesting, b) is important for global community, and c) provides skills.

      Respondents were pretty uninformed – 55% thought we have a cap on immigration numbers. National voters were the highest on this at 61%. A quarter of people also thought our refugee quote was over 10,000 (in reality it is 750).

      80% thought we should have a cap on immigration numbers.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 4, 2017

        The more problems you have, the more you need a scapegoat. Does it take a poll to show that?

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        • Mefrostate

           /  July 4, 2017

          We should certainly be able to discuss areas where the current government has failed to mitigate the impact of immigration on people’s problems.

          I’m supportive of skilled & seasonal immigration FWIW.

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        • sorethumb

           /  July 4, 2017

          Michael Reddell argues that development of productive resources has peaked while we keep adding people. Hence we slide down the OECD in standard of living. That scenario is backed up by Ian Harrison
          http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2014/14-10/twp14-10.pdf
          http://www.tailrisk.co.nz/documents/TheSuperdiversityMyth.pdf

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 4, 2017

            Being bureaucrats they don’t understand that the most productive resource is brainpower.

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          • Mefrostate

             /  July 4, 2017

            Alan’s being pithy as usual, so let me try to contribute something more useful.

            I’m going to ignore the Harrison piece, as I think it’s more advocacy than analysis. From a skim, I think I’d have a similar conclusion about the Superdiversity Stocktake. Can perhaps return to this later.

            From the Treasury piece: “There is also some evidence that immigration, together with other forms of population growth, has exacerbated pressures on New Zealand’s insufficiently-responsive housing market. Meeting the infrastructure needs of immigrants in an economy with a quite modest rate of national saving may also have diverted resources from productive tradable activities, with negative macroeconomic impacts. At a minimum, this emphasises the importance of improving the economy’s ability to respond to population increase. If this cannot be achieved, there may be merit in considering a reduced immigration target as a tool for easing macroeconomic pressures.”

            I think this is a good assessment of the situation. Many people are incorrectly attributing their problems (higher housing costs, wage stagnation) to immigration, when the real causes are poor housing & taxation policy.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 4, 2017

              No issue with any of that, Mefro, except perhaps that the solution to high prices is deregulation, not more taxation. Freedom allows prosperity.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  July 4, 2017

    I listened to the idiot called gareth morgan on the radio in my car this afternoon,, this person said”we will raise the drinking age to 20 and raise the price of piss”This RICH idiot has lost the youth vote the CAT LOVERS VOTE and this weird speaking IDIOT has lost the OLD FART DRINKING VOTE”its the end of times” when you are old and a glass of wine is nice, DONT FUCK with our CHEAP SAV BLANC you stupid wierdo, spend your millions and LOSE IT HAHAHA

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    • PDB

       /  July 4, 2017

      Hit the grog early today Lurch?

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    • And, weird as he may be it’s his money and he can spend it like he does. Don’t go for him myself, but he can do as he likes as long as he’s not spinning his propaganda off the taxpayer dollar like existing politicians.

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    • Corky

       /  July 4, 2017

      Lurchy.. Never get a job in a nursing home. Nobody deserves you in their final years before the big cull.

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  July 4, 2017


    For Geeza, check out the bass player,she has her eye on you…

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  July 4, 2017

    checked out hosking tonight, flapper lips looks like a old stoner,i hope what hes using to keep going is legal and after its checked out as safe, where do you get it,,,,,,,

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  7. Gezza

     /  July 4, 2017

    You have to want to be happy – above everything else. You deserve to be happy. Everybody does. Most people don’t deliberately try to hurt you. If wanting to hurt other people (or thinking you are hurting them back) makes you happy, something is wrong. And you will never be happy, not for long

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