Media watch – Thursday

6 July 2017

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17 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  July 6, 2017

    One of the biggest educational changes in our history if implemented. It would smash the Marxist teacher unions closed shop.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11885921

    https://nzinitiative.org.nz/

  2. PDB

     /  July 6, 2017

    From the ‘could do with some global warming’ files……

    “The mercury in the NSW town, close to the Murray River, sank to -5.6C early on Sunday morning — that’s the coldest it’s been for 110 years.

    It was even more icy further north as winter records were broken across NSW and Victoria — some towns recorded their coldest morning ever.

    “Yes, it’s still cold. The average minimum in Canberra is 0C in July so -7C is well below average,” Sky News Weather meteorologist Tom Saunders told news.com.au on Monday.

    Early on Saturday morning, the nation’s capital fell to -8.7C, the coldest in 46 years. Three consecutive nights below -7C was also a first for 46 years.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/record-breaking-cold-weather-hits-australias-south-east/news-story/50906eac539b4fa9303ae95302b7f36b

    • Gezza

       /  July 6, 2017

      Ok. So that’s the It’s The Sun theory down the dunny too?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 6, 2017

        Nah, if the temperature doesn’t change, that’s because of global warming and if it gets hot or gets cold that’s the same cause. Also if it rains and blows too much or not enough or just keeps doing what it’s always done..

        Oh, and it’s our fault for having cows and fires and cars and electricity, so there.

        • Corky

           /  July 6, 2017

          They found cavemen remains with blackened lungs. probably from a life time of eating animals over a spit in an unventilated cave. So mankind survives this and evolves only to be supposedly wiped out by climate change.Mankind just can’t win.

        • Mefrostate

           /  July 6, 2017

          Wait a minute Alan, do you believe the climate is changing or not?

          • What sort of question is that? Is the climate changing? Of course it is… like it has always done.

            The actual question is: Is the climate changing rapidly AND is it being caused exclusive by mankind? To which I think you will find that Al’s answer is something like “No”…..

            Why have those pushing man made climate change dropped the old AGW tag and shifted to just calling it Climate Change???

            • Mefrostate

               /  July 6, 2017

              Dave, I was just checking because I wanted to see what stage of denial Alan was at.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 6, 2017

            @Mefro, define this climate you are asking about.

            • Mefrostate

               /  July 6, 2017

              Gee, who even knows what the definition of ‘is’ is?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 6, 2017

              Well, if you don’t know what it is you certainly can’t know if it is changing.

            • Mefrostate

               /  July 6, 2017

              It was a simple question.

            • Gezza

               /  July 7, 2017

              @ Mefro
              I don’t want to spoil the non- flow, but I don’t think it is a simple question so either this covo will just fizzle out with one-liners or it could maybe get more interesting if you defined what climate means to you & why you think it is changing?

            • Mefrostate

               /  July 7, 2017

              @Gezza I think it’s pointless anyway, as deniers just move the goalposts to try to protect their beliefs. For example by asking questions about what even is the climate. Or by insisting that yes the climate is changing but carbon isn’t the cause. Or then that humans aren’t even a significant factor. The denialst’s ladder.

              It’s incredibly frustrating. Honestly all I was trying to establish was where on that ladder Alan was at.

            • Gezza

               /  July 7, 2017

              Oh. That’s easy. Doesn’t matter what the issue is, Al’s usually right at the top of the ladder, looking down on everyone else.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 9, 2017

              @Metro, in science we don’t have beliefs, we have data. That is what distinguishes it from religion. If you knew what climate is we might be able to look at the data and draw conclusions. But since you don’t we can’t.