Open Forum – Thursday

6 July 2017

This post is open to anyone to comment on any topic that isn’t spam, illegal or offensive. All Your NZ posts are open but this one is for you to raise topics that interest you. 

If providing opinions on or summaries of other information also provide a link to that information. Bloggers are welcome to summarise and link to their posts.

Comments worth more exposure may be repeated as posts.Comments from other forums can be repeated here, cut and paste is fine.

Your NZ is a mostly political and social issues blog but not limited to that, and views from anywhere on the political spectrum are welcome. Some ground rules:

  • If possible support arguments, news, points or opinions with links to sources and facts.
  • Please don’t post anything illegal, potentially defamatory or abusive.

FIRST TIME COMMENTERS: Due to abuse by a few first comments under any ID will park in moderation until released (as soon as possible but it can sometimes take a while).

Sometimes comments will go into moderation or spam automatically due to mistyped ID, too many links (>4), or trigger text or other at risk criteria.

Free speech is an important principle here but some people who might pose a risk to the site will have to keep going through moderation due to abuses by a small number of malicious people.

A wide variety of topics and views are encouraged and welcomed, but some topics and some extremes may not be appropriate, and ultimately site management has the final say on what passes.

55 Comments

  1. lurcher1948

     /  July 6, 2017

    Its a strange old world,homosexuals are to get an apology for getting convictions for committing crimes under a law that existed then when sex between the same sex was illegal.Of course the gay activists want pardons and MONEY. You go nation NZ needs an apology for your policies over the years

    • Gezza

       /  July 6, 2017

      Last sentence confusing. What does it mean?

      • lurcher1948

         /  July 6, 2017

        sorry meant national…half asleep

        • Corky

           /  July 6, 2017

          Hey, Lurchy. Do you think National should apologise for divorced couples of yesteryear having their names published in the defunct ‘Truth’ newspaper?

          What about your haemorrhoids?. High Chief, Billy English, will just tell you to increase you roughage and use Preparation H.

          • duperez

             /  July 6, 2017

            Strange old world all right. When the laws change around marijuana will all those convicted of crimes to do with that in the past receive pardons? Doesn’t apply personally but just thinking about a whole industry being set up around researching those who need to get the pardon, contacting them and any other associated tra las .

    • NOEL

       /  July 6, 2017

      When the Officer class were for an apology fron the Crown for Vietnam Veterans I did some research . At the time the apology to the Chinese had been negotiated and a small grant accompanied it. That appeared to be a worldwide approach where to be tangible some form other recompense accompanied the apology.
      As in the Veterans case usually a token.

  2. Missy

     /  July 6, 2017

    A prominent Indian leader, Sunny Kaushal, has defected from Labour to National as he feels that Labour are not tough enough on law and order…

    – posted https://yournz.org/2017/07/06/auckland-indian-leader-defects-from-labour-to-national/

    • lurcher1948

       /  July 6, 2017

      Hes going to national who isnt providing protection to indian shopkeepers who are getting robbed.I dont think this indian has a corner shop.

      • Corky

         /  July 6, 2017

        Lol,x2

      • Corky

         /  July 6, 2017

        “I dont think this indian has a corner shop.’

        No, but he has a brain.

  3. Gezza

     /  July 6, 2017

    For Lurch:
    Louis L & Phoebe R. They may not be rescue dogs like yours Lurchy, but they bring a lot of joy to people with a sadness in their lives.

    • lurcher1948

       /  July 6, 2017

      BEAUTIFUL

      • Gezza

         /  July 6, 2017

        Louis tell more lies. That’s why his nose is longer. But Phoebe must be starting to tell few porkies too because hers is getting longer now.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  July 6, 2017

          Very cool, G. Animals give us so much pleasure.

          • Missy

             /  July 6, 2017

            I would clarify that Alan, some animals give us pleasure.

            The foxes mating the other night did not give me pleasure when they woke me up with the screaming! Horrendous noise!!

            These two are very cute however, though I will say Phoebe is slightly cuter than Louis…. 😉

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 6, 2017

              Foxes just getting their own back on some humans doing it to them, Missy. Woke up this morning wedged between a dog and cat. Kept me warm while we wait for global warming to kick in.

    • Conspiratoor

       /  July 6, 2017

      G I have this thing whenever I see a toy dog with so much wool on it you’re not sure where the body is, I conjour up this mental image of the thing totally defleeced. Nothing but a skinny little overgrown rat. I think it must be the agrarian in me

      • Gezza

         /  July 6, 2017

        They’re not toy poodles c, they’re miniatures, next step up. These two have the personalities of labradors. Owner Alison trims them nicely, they still look like dogs. People who do this should be banned from driving, imo:

        I’m not sure what it is in you but, depending on time of day, it might sometimes be single malts?

        • lurcher1948

           /  July 6, 2017

          POOF DOG lets not get carried away,i will post a picture of a REAL dog when i get around to it

          • Gezza

             /  July 6, 2017

            The dog’s not a poof. The poor beggar. The bloody owner is.

      • Gezza

         /  July 6, 2017

        PS: Thanks for the uptick, c. The poor old PDT just doesn’t get our little jokes & method of indicating we like it!.

        • Conspiratoor

           /  July 6, 2017

          Twasn’t me on that occasion G. Rule 27a. Unless its worthy, 1 tick irrespective of tickor …is sufficient. Sir Al doesnt get your fetish with the uptick so it falls to me to enlighten him. You basically don’t care what folks think, rather you simply want acknowledgment someone has stuck around long enough to read the damn thing. Maslow Level 4. Cheers,c

          • Gezza

             /  July 6, 2017

            What do you mean it wasn’t you!
            WTF are you playing at?
            You know the bloody rules!

  4. Corky

     /  July 6, 2017

    When in the supermarket I often cringe at people buying cooking oils in clear plastic or glass bottles. Apart from the oil being toxic, it’s also rancid within days. Processing hides any stench, while light entering the container starts the decomposition process.

    Makers of cold pressed oil try to negate this problem using dark plastic bottles and containers. This works to a limited degree provided the oil is refrigerated and used within a specified time once opened, That can be a hassle.

    Enter Miron glass, a product claimed to have overcome these problem and provide a sustainable shelf life for perishable products.

    I’m about to put these claims to the test.

    http://www.vitalitygoods.com/science-miron-vitality-glass

    • Conspiratoor

       /  July 6, 2017

      Thanks for the heads up brother corks. I’ve heard this one before. Wasn’t sure whether it was a wives tale or not but you sound fairly plausible. Let us know if it tastes as good 3 months down the track as it does today

  5. Corky

     /  July 6, 2017

    I see insurance company Youi have been stung badly be complaints about their poor service and crap policies.

    So, it was out with the suave white dude ( unPC) and in with an Maori kid, going down a hill in a homemade cart, made of a drum, that breaks down when the wheel comes off.

    Fear not, an all knowing koro just happens to go by. He stops and fixes that cart. Wow, so organic, so Aotearoa and sacred. Beautiful too.

    That the Maori kids don’t own carts seems to have escaped the advertising firm who actioned this account.

    That Youi executives didn’t pick up on this clanger means their products will still have problems.

    State- one click-done. Now that’s the white- I mean- right way.

    • Gezza

       /  July 6, 2017

      I read that Corks. Twice. Felt like an acid trip.

      • Corky

         /  July 6, 2017

        I had just eaten a raspberry bun…what can I say. A raspberry bun has a GI index of 73. An acid trip wouldn’t be too far off a good analogy. My mind was blown.

        • Gezza

           /  July 6, 2017

          Serves you right, take the hard stuff you have to put up with the downside!
          I just had two New World “Rolls Round Plain” with two half rashers of microwaved crispy Freedom streaky bacon in each, so I’m still making sense.

          • Corky

             /  July 6, 2017

            I may stick to that next time. Estimated GI 25. Much easier on the brain.

            • Gezza

               /  July 6, 2017

              If we left everything to the rational brain we probably wouldn’t have original art or music.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 6, 2017

              I suspect the rational brain is a very small part of the mechanism, G. It leaves out the involuntary, instinctive, emotional, memory, trained and reactive aspects. Quite a few of those are wrapped around raspberry buns.

            • Gezza

               /  July 6, 2017

              I suspect spontaneity is where a lot of it comes from, you do something spontaneous & the other senses or faculties pick it up, & you just like it. Certainly how coming up with original music works with me.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 6, 2017

              I meant a small part of the whole brain mechanism, not just wrt art and music. Did you watch the Prime Rocks Sergeant Pepper album documentary the other night with Howard Goodall? Excellent and fascinating insights I thought.

            • Gezza

               /  July 6, 2017

              Sgt Pepper. Yes, I did & totally agree with your assessment.

  6. duperez

     /  July 6, 2017

    Anyone know what’s up in Southland? This is a strange story.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/94363134/southlanders-ask-minister-to-investigate-community-trust-of-southland

    Someone asked a question in Parliament today. The chair of the outfit apparently is also chair of the local National Party. Their trust deed says trustees will be appointed by the Minister (of Finance.)

    • Gezza

       /  July 6, 2017

      Very odd. Somebody really wants to find out what’s gone down here if they’re hitting it via Question Time and the media. Mustafa Shufti at the Questions today.

      • Gezza

         /  July 6, 2017

        Hmm. Didn’t learn a lot from that.

        • Corky

           /  July 6, 2017

          ‘We have ten Trustees who are appointed by the Minister of Finance.’

          Sounds like at Leftie hit job at the right time…election time.

          • duperez

             /  July 6, 2017

            A leftie hit job? At the right time? Dealing to the CEO?

            Or do you mean a Leftie hit job at the right time, election time, meaning the leftie lot trying to find out what’s going on and why?

            • Corky

               /  July 6, 2017

              Good question. Take your pick.

              Gezza:

              ”Very odd. Somebody really wants to find out what’s gone down here if they’re hitting it via Question Time and the media.”

        • Corky

           /  July 6, 2017

          I just finished calling Canada’s PM a naive fool. So, I guess this shouldn’t come as a surprise. If it makes snowflake liberals who sometimes visit this site, feel better, they also have an elderly Christian only housing complex.

          • Gezza

             /  July 6, 2017

            Righto. Don’t give me any probs now Corks.

            No more slow copper wire comebacks from me buddy.

            From now on I’m comin straight back atcha on Fibre! 💪 👍

  7. lurcher1948

     /  July 6, 2017

  8. lurcher1948

     /  July 6, 2017

  9. pickled possum

     /  July 6, 2017

    3 white maori boys 14 -14 -16 living the dream at Waipu they are awesum!!!

    Singing in te reo about raupatu-confiscation. Put your head phones on patu and Gez because the maori thrash metal may wake the neighbours or the girl friend or te wahine
    ataahua …. hell may even wake up the young in TTT

    In 2016 won both the national finals of Smokfreerockquest and Smokefree Pacifica Beats, the only band in New Zealand history to have ever won both events.
    These are young Maori boyz that rep for their people.
    They sing in English also of many things that young usually don’t talk about to adults.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Weaponry

    • patupaiarehe

       /  July 6, 2017

      Kiaora, my marsupial friend 🙂 . That performance was nothing short of EPIC. Funnily enough, I was reading an article about ‘Alien Weaponry’ yesterday, which didn’t have a link to their music. Their style reminds me a lot of ‘Devilskin’…

  10. patupaiarehe

     /  July 6, 2017

    Many ‘moons’ ago, the ‘8 track’ was a useful tool. Nowadays, editing software can create a ‘one man band’ effortlessly. Even if this isn’t ones taste in music, I suspect the guitarists here will appreciate this one…

    • patupaiarehe

       /  July 6, 2017

      Just for comparison’s sake, here are APC, performing it live…

  11. sorethumb

     /  July 6, 2017

    Multiculturalism from a head honcho

    • patupaiarehe

       /  July 6, 2017

      An interesting talk, worth watching…