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11 July 2017

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  1. @gezza.

    Storage on iPad.

    From the Home screen, tap Settings.
    Tap General.
    Tap Storage and iCloud Usage.

    https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-33249

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    • Gezza

       /  July 12, 2017

      It’s not storage, it’s page-loading of online news pages with lotsa graphics, animations & or videos trav. Pages take forever to load & often crash. I blame the government. (It’s not their fault, it’s just a quick automatic reaction.)

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      • Gezza

         /  July 12, 2017

        Oh 🤐 – I see – thanks trav, I’ll have a read…

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        • Gezza

           /  July 12, 2017

          Hmm. Still doesn’t help much. It’s an iPad not an iPhone & I run it on private browsing so there shouldn’t be much too much RAM being taken up with storing urls etc. I’m thinking it just doesn’t have enough RAM to load & hold pages with lotsa graphics. Once we get a few Youtube music vids posted on Open Forum for example, I might as well just give away trying to open the page. Can’t find anywhere to tweak.

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          • MaureenW

             /  July 12, 2017

            What model Ipad, and what are the storage and ram specs?

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            • Gezza

               /  July 12, 2017

              This is all it’s got in Settings:

              iOS 9.3.5
              Your software is up to date.

            • Anonymous Coward

               /  July 13, 2017

              It’s an ipad 2, A5 chip, 512 Mb ram, not upgradable past OS 9.3.5.
              Which means, sadly, that there is not a lot you can do. Apple products, as great as they are, tend to get bogged down under software updates as they age.
              Unfortunately there is no way to uninstall the OS and go back to an earlier version.

              Maybe try a different browser. Here’s a list http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/iosapps/best-iphone-browser-2017-3621607/

              Ghostery may be a good option as it blocks all the trackers (there can be up to 30 on a single page) and adverts, and it’s most likely the adverts that crash the pages at the moment.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 12, 2017

            I have the same issues on my (oldish) Nokia 920 phone. The media websites are being upgraded with monstrous home pages splattered with pics and adverts and the browser just crashes. My iPad though is not so bad.

            I like the phone because it has wireless charging though and everything else works well.

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            • Gezza

               /  July 12, 2017

              Typical of Apple though – not to tell you how much RAM is this FiP, and how to boost or extend it.

  2. British fisheries. Ramifications after BREXIT are substantial. Implications of interpretation of sovereign waters could even have oil/ gas consequences.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/827456/EU-Norway-waters-snow-crab-fishing-rights-ship-oil-Brexit

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  3. Corky

     /  July 12, 2017

    The Whaler posted this article on Islam yesterday. We often debate certain aspects of Islam. However, when all the possible negative affects of Islam are laid out in list form, it becomes obvious how far reaching Sharia Law will become in the West. A handful of these things are already raising their ugly head in New Zealand

    Here’s one for Kitty. She had a problem with this assertion previously.

    Quote:

    ”To all female doctors and nurses:
    You are allowed to only treat girls and women. Women are people that look like women and not those that feel like women.”

    ”To all male doctors and nurses:
    You are allowed to only care for boys and men. The deciding factor here too is appearance.”

    One more for the Catholic Church

    ”To all monks and nuns:
    Your position is forbidden in Islam. Monastery’s are not worth being protected. The accumulated wealth, including all church real estate, would definitely be very welcome in an Islamic charity foundation.” Holy crap!!!

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/07/congratulations-country-now-muslim-country-lets-look-around-2/.

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    • WO has been campaigning against Islam for yonks, little of which is relevant to New Zealand.

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      • Corky

         /  July 12, 2017

        Untrue, Pete. I have posted examples. It’s true he has been campaigning against Islam incessantly. That’s good in my opinion. When someone slaps you in the face, chances are they don’t like you. The Whaler is pointing that out to an unreceptive public who will only wake up when kiwi blood is spilt in down town Auckland.

        A true patriot in my opinion..

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        • We have a lot worse problems in New Zealand, Islam barely rates a concern in comparison to the real problems here.

          There are more problems from revved up intolerance and abuse against Muslims than from Muslims.

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          • Corky

             /  July 12, 2017

            At the moment you are correct….but a journey starts with one step. In Europe Islam is well into their journey. Are we not to learn from Europe’s demise? Are we different?

            Why do women have breast screening? To hopefully catch cancer in its early treatable stages.

            An Auckland Muslim girls school stops a dad watching his daughter play sport because he is male.

            Remedial action taken to stop this alien cultural cancer.? Nothing. Zilch!!!!

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          • Trumpenreich

             /  July 12, 2017

            “There are more problems from revved up intolerance and abuse against Muslims than from Muslims.”

            You are aiming that cheap shot at the likes of me aren’t you?

            Could you describe these “problems” that you think white NZers like me are causing?

            “An Auckland Imam who made anti-Semitic speeches says he deserves an apology after copping a storm of backlash.

            Dr Mohammad Anwar Sahib, a religious advisor for a body of the Federation of Islamic Association New Zealand, made a controversial speech in November at the At-Taqwa mosque in Manukau.”

            Jewish preschooler attacked in New Zealand

            “Goodman told The Times of Israel that the attack appeared to be racially motivated. The boy’s mother, who requested not to be identified by name, reported that a man of “Middle Eastern appearance” in his 20s approached her and the children, slapped her son hard on the top of his head, and then ran to a parked car with four people inside.”

            http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-preschooler-attacked-in-new-zealand/

            So how many muslim children walking to school have been physically assaulted by white NZers like me?

            Pete, you need to pack your bags and go live in an mohammedan majority country – you don’t deserve to live in a Western democratic, capitalist society with high social, political stabiltiy and good living standards and personal freedoms.

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        • Western culture, laws and freedom, esp with respect to hard won womens rights and homosexual rights have everything to fear from literal Islam. Show me one Islamic country where freedoms are held dear. Show me how Islamism ( or fundamental literal Christianity) is truly enhancing, rather than restricting Western societies. Even Turkey is succumbing to the creep of unreformed fundamentalism.

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          • Internationalists imagine that by welcoming the third world into developed societies we’re spreading our version of freedom. While this may be true where people regard and respect the laws and culture of a host society as being paramount, where they don’t there are significant problems.

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            • Trumpenreich

               /  July 12, 2017

              You are actually still buying into Globalist propaganda about what human nature is.

              Globalists see humans as interchangable, standardised work units.

              Got a declining white population in Britain contributing to sub par GDP? No worries, just transplant millions of Somalians, Indians and Pakistanis. What could possibly go wrong?

              Globalists are blind to, or even hostile towards the reality of race, genetics, culture. history and civilisational trajectories.

            • Trumpenreich

               /  July 12, 2017

              …Globalists are technocrats who deal in pure abstractions – rationalism, systems, structure, management, expertise, solutions.

              That’s why their plans always end in disaster re: GFC, 3rd World immigration, endless ME wars and refugee crisis.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  July 12, 2017

      Time for a rescue mission for Muslim kiwi kids. There’ll be a lot needing it:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/94639600/kiwis-lonely-journey-leaving-islam

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      • Gezza

         /  July 12, 2017

        Should be compulsory reading in schools, reproduced in all other newspapers, and shown as a doco with all identities protected & voices & faces obscured & except the imam’s.

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      • Gezza

         /  July 12, 2017

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  4. Corky

     /  July 12, 2017

    Heard an interview with this doctor on the radio. He is being ostracised for going against political correctness and urging caution on classifying kids as transgender.

    Some of the side effects of surgery and hormone use are truly horrendous. They often produce lifetime complications. i doubt the groovy cool transgender kids realise that, or are told that.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/health/doctor-urges-watch-and-wait-approach-for-transgender-kids/news-story/f658b6f1aaa63ff578b2413cea4839bc

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    • Corky

       /  July 12, 2017

      Oops….link was fine before. You will have to paste and read online.

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      • Corky. MOTHWastellng me this bloke was on ZB recently. There may be a podcast

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      • Gezza

         /  July 12, 2017

        Paste what? The link just brings up the subscription page.

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        • Corky

           /  July 12, 2017

          It didn’t before. Put the link through a search engine as someone had suggested. No problems. Tried it again from this site, no problem.

          The Australian
          12:00AM May 11, 2017

          Rebecca Urban
          Journalist
          Melbourne
          @RurbsOz

          A Sydney pediatrician has questioned the readiness of clinicians and courts to permit young people to embark on potentially irrever­sible medical intervention to alter their gender, describing it as a “dangerous fad” fuelled by “powerful ideologues”.

          Western Sydney University professor John Whitehall, who has more than 50 years’ experience treating children, has also expressed­ concerns that the long-term risks of prescribing puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones in the treatment of ­gender dysphoria are not fully understood.

          The leading pediatrician advocates a “watchful waiting” approac­h, arguing that inter­national evidence shows a vast majority of children who question their gender will revert to their natal sex by puberty.

          While Professor Whitehall’s is a controversial opinion, he is not alone in questioning treatment protocols for gender dysphoria.

          As The Australian reported yesterday, a psychiatrist who works with transgender children has told the Family Court he was “yet to be convinced” that young people have the capacity to “fully understand the serious, irreversible, lifelong health risks of horm­one treatment to change their sex”.

          The opinion, offered in the recen­t case of a 17-year-old seeking hormonal treatment to reaffirm a decision to live as a male, was backed up by a pediatric endocrinologist, who pointed to lifelong, irreversible risks including breast or uterine cancer, and ­severe liver dysfunction.

          The judge, however, declared that the minor was capable of making a “rational and intelligent choice” and approved the therapy.

          Professor Whitehall, who drew a crowd of protesters when he spoke at an Australian Christian Lobby event about the content­ious Safe Schools program in Melbourne on Tuesday, said yesterday that colleagues were starting to question the growing acceptance of radical medical intervention to treat the disorder, at least priv­ately. “But we’re up against a small but powerful group of ideologues,” he said, pointing to the transgender lobby, which is campaigning to remove the Family Court from approvin­g medical decisions­ on behalf of transgender youth.

          “All of what we’re currently doing is experimental,” he said. “There’s little evidence of the posit­ive effects … They’re saying there’s no evidence of harm.

          “Well, actually, there is.”

          In an article published in Quadrant this month, Professor Whitehall cites several studies overseas that have found hormone depriv­ation can impact on the brain, affectin­g memory, executive func­tion and cerebral function.

          Professor Whitehall also questioned the sharp increase in the number of transgender youths seeking treatment.

          In 2012, there were 18 referrals to the gender clinic­ run by ­Melbourne’s Royal Children’s Hospital. That figure rose to 200 last year.

          “I think it’s a dangerous fad; a dangerous behavioural fashion trend fuelled by the ideologues and fuelled by the media,” he said. Professor Whitehall said he was concerned that programs such as Safe Schools, which promotes gender fluidity and provides schools with resources to assist students who want to transition, were causing extra pressure.

          “Even making that so-called social transition has consequences,” he said. “It nails the child to the cross. It’s very difficult to come back from that.”

          The Royal Children’s’ Hospital in Melbourne and the Children’s Hospital at Westmead, which also operates a gender clinic, did not respond­ to requests for comment.

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  5. Trumpenreich

     /  July 12, 2017

    NZ Herald doing a hit job on the NZ alt-right this morning. An “investigation”, the usual Cultural Marxist propaganda – Literally Hitler™! hysterics then bringing the punters back down – “there aren’t that many of them and they aren’t very organised.”

    Of course a sociologist is wheeled out for the “analysis”.

    Sociologists are either out right Marxist nut jobs or sympathisers, there entire field is predicated on Marxist ideology.

    So white guys expressing positive ideas in support of their tribal identity is Literally Hitler™. Says a bunch of white hating Leftist who worship an ideology that wrecked more human and cultural carnage than Nazism ever did.

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    • Trumpenreich

       /  July 12, 2017

      wreckedwrought

      God, why won’t Pete let us edit our posts.

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    • Mefrostate

       /  July 12, 2017

      “Says a bunch of white hating Leftist who worship an ideology that wrecked more human and cultural carnage than Nazism ever did.”

      Wew lad

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      • Trumpenreich

         /  July 12, 2017

        You disagree? You don’t believe Communism was more devastating than Nazism?

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        • Mefrostate

           /  July 12, 2017

          Extremists of both are despicable.

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          • Trumpenreich

             /  July 12, 2017

            But why are the atrocities of Marxism/Communism virtually never mentioned?

            When our culture is saturated with anti fascist propaganda in film, TV.

            Yet more perished under the cruel brutality of Communism.

            Is it because Communism is basically a Jewish intellectual invention and they were heavily implicated in carrying out its atrocities?

            Jews were carrying out extermination projects BEFORE the Nazis started.

            Yet can you or anyone you know name a single one of them?

            Hollywood constantly spits out anti fascist propaganda by the likes of Spielberg and Lucas but these same Jews have absolutely nothing to say about the atrocities of Communism. Hmmmm.

            Globalists smear anyone as Literally Hitler™ who doesn’t buy into their program.

            But calling Progressives “Cultural Marxists” is “ridiculous” and “unfair”.

            Being accused in the media of Nazi sympathies can destroy your career and life.

            Meanwhile Leftist brag openly to their comrades about their Marxist credentials with no fear of negative consequences – the opposite in fact, it may enhance their career prospects in academia and media.

            The few Leftist who are forced to address Communist horrors always rationalise it as: “Our intentions were good.” or “Our hearts were in the right place”, “This time it will be different, we truly will create a glorious workers paradise.”

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  6. Corky

     /  July 12, 2017

    Warning to serious posters…trolls are out in force today. I put it down to Labours poor poll showing, followed by a mediocre family package policy.. followed by an election.

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  7. Corky

     /  July 12, 2017

    I messed around and fell shit out of luck not buying one of these with the MFD pickups. They now make them out of basswood, and in my opinion these guitars now lack something.

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  July 12, 2017

      I’ll be showing this one to Jr, when he gets back from his holiday camp. Personally, I reckon he sounds best, on his electric/acoustic Arai…

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  July 12, 2017

    UPDATE:drove down the gorge in Wellington to work this morning”AUCKLAND” NewstalkZB said its the ends of time due to a small slip in the gorge and WELLINGTON is cut of(think earthquake)well flapper lips NATIONALPARTY ZB RADIO,i left home in NEWLANDS top of gorge at 7.00am normal 7.05 yes i work and the traffic was the same but compressed into two lanes,merged and drove down the gorge and arrived early at work.2 minutes early,If ZB broadcasting says its foggy in WELLINGTON its probably clear blue skys, auckland an insecure city…

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  9. Corky

     /  July 12, 2017

    What was Mikey saying that offended you, Lurchy?

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  July 12, 2017

    Isn’t FoxTV fake news MSM? so when the potus”TRUMP” says MSM bad isn’t he discribing his mouth piece FOXanother fake news site

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  11. sorethumb

     /  July 12, 2017

    Labour no longer the preferred party of working class voters
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/07/labour_no_longer_the_preferred_party_of_working_class_voters.html#comments

    but the question is why?

    “If people had any idea about the scale of these changes,” she confided to me early in her first term as MP for Pencarrow,” they’d be horrified. It’s been decided that New Zealand’s future lies in Asia. That’s got massive implications – but most people haven’t a clue. No one asked them and certainly no one’s telling them.”
    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2015/07/chinese-whispers.html

    Corbyn and the Labour Party shocked the political establishment by gaining seats in the election, rather than being wiped out in the predicted Tory landslide. Much has been made of how the young rallied to the vision of the Corbyn, particularly in university towns, delivering historically Conservative seats like Canterbury.

    However, while the youth vote is key factor in the result, we should not underestimate the impact that ethnic minority voters had on the outcome.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ethnic-minority-vote-general-election-labour-jeremy-corbyn-racial-faultlines-anti-immigration-a7791101.html

    here the Chinese vote National (Labour/Green are baizou)

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  12. sorethumb

     /  July 12, 2017

    Kia ora Spunky
    For the many, not just the few.

    A few days ago I was at our official campaign launch in Nelson. What a great turnout. More and more people are joining this growing green movement. We are GREAT TOGETHER.

    But let’s talk about what’s not great. Just recently I was forwarded an email that the National Party sent out, attacking the opposition. We know they need to attack others to redirect the focus off of their appalling record over the past nine years.

    This National government that has failed New Zealanders on housing, conservation, climate change, homelessness, river and water quality, transportation and the economy. National are only concerned about their rich mates, and big business. They are looking after the few at the expense of the many.

    LET’S SHOW THEM. That Kiwis care; care about each other; care about our environment; care about our planet. That is our choice.

    Let’s take this growing movement and momentum to create positive green change this September. Donate $3 now to help us get our message out there and to make the most of our opportunity, right now, THIS year.

    We are competing against other parties who are spending up large, buying advertising and drowning us out!!

    The campaign still needs urgent funding for billboards, leaflets, Adshells, digital billboards, and online advertising to get our message out and support our ground campaign team.

    A donation of $16 pays for two billboards, $25 for 1000 leaflets, $34 for 80 phone calls or $50 for 3 doorknocking kits.

    Any donation you can make now will help.
    Help us buy advertising to compete!

    This government has turned their backs on hundreds of thousands of ordinary New Zealanders – those who don’t have lots of money or that can’t “buy” their citizenship.

    Lots of New Zealanders are doing it hard. Imagine that we in New Zealand have the working poor, people living in cars and garages and shoddy housing just because there is nothing else. Add to that there are so many young people who are working low-paying, temporary or tenuous jobs – if they have one – or they are racking up debt getting an education.

    If that isn’t enough, National’s woeful climate “plan” is to spend nearly $10 billion over ten years paying other countries to reduce their emissions so that we don’t have to. Imagine what we could accomplish if we put that money back into this country instead.

    And, they’ve turned their backs on our environment, they’ve gutted our conservation agency. They want to open up conservation areas for coal mining and irrigation schemes. They even want to change legislation so they can swap important conservation area for a “pugged-up paddock”.

    Only positive green change can turn this around. And the best way is to get positive green change is to donate now so we can purchase advertising.

    You’re part of an important and historic moment in New Zealand’s history. Let’s provide a future for our children and grandchildren and know that we did our bit. It’s never been more important to be great together – for all of us, for the many, not just the few.

    Ngā mihi nui

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  13. MaureenW

     /  July 12, 2017

    A shout out to Cardinal Pell from Tim Minchin

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  14. Gezza

     /  July 12, 2017

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  15. sorethumb

     /  July 12, 2017

    Trade and National Defense Are Now the Same Thing
    BY PATRICK WATSON JULY 11, 2017
    Many people wish Trump would stop tweeting already. I disagree, not because I like his ideas but because I like having this window into his thoughts. It lets us see policy developing from the inside, and almost in real time.
    http://www.mauldineconomics.com/connecting-the-dots/trade-and-national-defense-are-now-the-same-thing

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  16. patupaiarehe

     /  July 12, 2017

    A great instrumental cover, of one of the best rock songs ever written, IMHO.

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  July 12, 2017

      What was the rock song? Did they ever get past the first three chords?

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      • patupaiarehe

         /  July 12, 2017

        Sigh… If it’s too loud, C, you’re too old… 😛

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  17. patupaiarehe

     /  July 12, 2017

    Another great cover…

    And the original, just for comparison. A great video, BTW…

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