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18 July 2017

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61 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  July 18, 2017

    Hmmm, that’s strange. I heard a radio report Ian Wishart had won another libel case against a couple who set up a web page to spread lies about him. The couple admitted the charges. But I can’t find a thing about said case on the web. I wasn’t expecting anything from mainstream media because they hate Wishart, but I thought someone may have mentioned something.

    Poor Ian. if this was Hager, such a story would lead most bulletins.

  2. Corky

     /  July 18, 2017

    Why liberals are dangerous to Western culture.

    Start at 2.30

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 18, 2017

      It looks fascinating.

      • Corky

         /  July 18, 2017

        Its not really. When you see normal people ( as most would perceive them) put their hands up and agree it’s Ok to kill gays, adulterers and Wetbacks…it really isn’t fascinating. Scary would be a better adjective,

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 19, 2017

          All that appeared was a square with a sort of face.

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 18, 2017

    In six months, Trump has cut illegal immigration in half. Democrats appalled, MSM silent, busy trying to find another attack line:
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/border-patrol-union-chief-praises-miraculous-drop-in-illegal-immigration-under-trump/article/2628828

    • All it takes is plain speaking and the intent. It’s all racism and ethnic cleansing to the left

    • Conspiratoor

       /  July 18, 2017

      They’ve found one Al …and this is the one that will most surely bury him. His ties are made by Bangladesh slave labour

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  July 18, 2017

      illegal immigration cut in half results in a shortage of low wage workers and in plans to bring in another 15,000 seasonal foreign workers (I pity the families who rely on remittances from the illegals to keep them alive, fed, and housed).

      But alongside the drop in illegals comes a precipitous decline in tourist numbers. America’s share of international tourism has declined by 11% October thru March (down by 16% March 17 vs March 16) compared with the previous year, and is predicted to result in 4.3 million fewer visitors this year, which adds up to a loss of $US7.4 billion in revenue for the US.

      Meanwhile tourism in the rest of the world has increased by over 7% across the same timeframe.

      So a reduction in illegal immigrants might be explained by trumps border policies, or it might also be explained by USA becoming a much less welcoming and much less appealing place to visit (also related to trumps policies).

      A poll conducted for the 2017 U.S. News Best Countries Rankings found that more than 70 percent of survey respondents lost respect for U.S. leadership as a result of the toxic nature of the U.S. election. And, if the election had been global, about 60 percent of people would have backed Hillary Clinton, according to a survey of more than 21,000 people from 36 countries in all regions of the world.

      And, America isn’t only dropping in the tourism ranks. The U.S. fell from the No. 4 Best Country to No. 7 in the most recent best country rankings.

      https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2017-05-25/international-tourism-in-us-declines-since-donald-trump-elected-president

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  July 18, 2017

        Trump hires seasonal foreign workers. Do that which I say, not that which I do 😦

      • sorethumb

         /  July 18, 2017

        Trumps doing his bit for the planet then!

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 18, 2017

    Bureaucratic scum given vastly excessive and oppresive power over property owners: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11892013

    • Gezza

       /  July 18, 2017

      Or, put another way – rich, entitled, self-important, idiots ignore fencing rules everybody else abides by, instead of first campaigning to change them, & get a boot up the arse for being stupid prats?

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 19, 2017

        Spineless worms invite ever more intrusive regulation. Love being told how to think and what to do.

        • Gezza

           /  July 19, 2017

          Yep – that was my conclusion too. Weirdos. It must be subliminal. They don’t even know they secretly want that. Probably the same sorts of personalities 🏋 as those upper class twits that love being whipped on the bum by dominatrixes 🚼 🆒🔝. (Dominatrices – which one’s right, Kitty 👠👠 🕶 🚬?) Either that or they’re just feckin idiots ?

  5. sorethumb

     /  July 18, 2017

    Guerilla Surgeon “I deal with racism everyday” (and i bet he’s on good pay! – Word is the truck from Pak ‘n Sav delivers the gingernuts directly to HRC.)

    It is a reasonably widely accepted idea that in order to be racist you actually have to have power over someone. Otherwise you are merely bigoted. But it’s just a question of definition.
    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.co.nz/2017/07/a-special-kind-of-prejudice.html

    what is it about the left and racism? They are obsessed.
    Jordan Peterson talks about ideology as an algorithm.

    Anti-racism trumps everything – a view that Western Society is sick and must be destroyed before the real work of dealing with societies problems starts. But the problem is evolution and biological ethnocentrism (a factor left-wing academics don’t recognise). We have a policy mix that pits anti racism over common sense: the government, public service and media have a positive position on immigration. Kerry McDonald (an executive of the year) calls our high rate of immigration “a national disaster”.

  6. Corky

     /  July 18, 2017

    Vicious Polynesian toe-rags deal to hard working kiwi couple. If the shop owner had a gun this incident would have been resolved quickly, with these scumbags made quick dead.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/94805648/west-auckland-takeaway-shop-owner-held-at-knife-point-robbed-in-front-of-young-children

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 18, 2017

      The toerags who set upon the truckdriver weren’t Polynesian.

      .Pakeha toerags attack hardworking Kiwi man.’

      • Corky

         /  July 18, 2017

        Yes, those Pakeha toe-rags are attacking truck drivers every week…whatever you are talking about.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 19, 2017

          Being Polynesian doesn’t make someone a violent toerag. Nor does being Pakeha. Toerags are universal.

          • Corky

             /  July 19, 2017

            Context, Kitty. Context….and statistics.

  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 18, 2017

    Another bit of officiousness that makes me very angry. Mother prevented from getting to her dead infant:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11891996

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 18, 2017

      Her dead infant had just had her head blown off. The police were obviously trying
      to shield her from the sight of a small child whose skull had been blown in all directions and whose bloodied head was-well, use your imagination as to what the poor thing’s head would look like after a blast from a sawn-off shotgun. Assuming that there still was any head left.

      You make it sound as if this was heartless behaviour when it was certainly not.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  July 18, 2017

        They don’t have the right to stop her. They have the right to warn and advise but definitely not to stop her. Why on earth do you think they had?

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 19, 2017

          We don’t know that they forcibly held her back or whether they just urgently tried to keep her from seeing this sight which would be about the worst thing any mother could see.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  July 19, 2017

            A later report said a policeman tackled her to the ground when she was running towards her child. The policewoman then stopped her from getting to the dead infant. Implication was that that was physically too.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 20, 2017

              I heard on the news that a policewoman ‘tackled her’, but it didn’t sound, from what the policewoman said, as if it was a literal rugby-style tackle, just a grab. This was a hideous situation, try to imagine what it must have been like for everyone. The baby’s head was splattered all over the place, one piece ended up on someone’s head. Emotions and adrenalin must have been through the ceiling.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 20, 2017

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/94882903/Sanft-trial-Police-officer-gives-emotional-evidence-about-scene

              It was at this point she noticed Julia Daniels, Amokura’s mother, sprinting towards the scene. Another officer tackled the woman to the ground.

              “I saw a woman running towards us, I just thought nobody is going to get past us to see that . . . I ran up and tried to hold her and that is when I knew it was mum.”

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 21, 2017

              The tackle was before they knew who she was; she was running towards the house. The whole thing was unspeakably ghastly. There was a baby with her head shot off…don’t be so self-righteous. The policeman couldn’t know who she was and what she was going to do.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  July 21, 2017

              If anyone else did that they would up on an assault charge. I don’t expect it hurt any less because the policeman didn’t know who she was. What on earth could she do? The baby was dead. Where does the law give police the right to keep a mother from her dead child? I am disgusted and revolted by that.

  8. Corky

     /  July 18, 2017

    Don Brash may dump National. This man will in years to come, be revered. But now isn’t his time. He must face odium before he sees sunshine and a knighthood.

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/07/don-brash-tempted-vote-nz-first/

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 18, 2017

      Whale Oil is hardly a reliable source.

      • Corky

         /  July 18, 2017

        may means: expressing possibility. “That may be true.”

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 19, 2017

          That may makes the whole thing meaningless.

    • Gezza

       /  July 18, 2017

      He’ll be remembered as philandering old fuddy duddy bigot & two bob snob.

    • PDB

       /  July 20, 2017

      Brash has been ‘dumping’ on National for some years now…….

  9. Corky

     /  July 18, 2017

    Uncle Garth is offering 18-23 year olds $200 dollars a week. He had a fancy name for it which I forget. It’s official- Aotearoa is in the grip of madness.

    Talking of madness, what’s up with Blazer, and why is Gezza asking about washing machines? Should we ring somebody?

    • Corky

       /  July 18, 2017

      *Gareth*

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 18, 2017

      I think that the fancy name is ‘vote-chasing’.

    • Gezza

       /  July 18, 2017

      Blazer is hopefully doing some self-reflection.

    • Gezza

       /  July 18, 2017

      I thought you said you were making a mint out of picking up old washing machines & getting some partner with a bit of techo nouse to replace the cucuit boards & then you flog em off to beneficiaries & one of you gets a cut?

  10. Corky

     /  July 18, 2017

    Just been on a Facebook page dedicated to getting rid of Paula Bennett. The stench of socialism was so overpowering it made me nauseous..

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 18, 2017

      Nauseated. Nauseous means nauseating.

      • Corky

         /  July 18, 2017

        If you don;t mind I will stick with ” nauseous..”

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 19, 2017

          Well, if you consider yourself to be nauseating, that is your prerogative. I would prefer to be nauseated than nauseating. If someone has been poisoned, would you say that they were ‘poisonous’ ?

          • Gezza

             /  July 19, 2017

            Bugger. Posted in wrong place. Corks wins this one Kitty, sorry!
            See below.

  11. Gezza

     /  July 19, 2017

    No, sorry – Corks was on the ball there, Kitters.
    nauseous
    ˈnɔːsɪəs,ˈnɔːzɪəs/
    adjective
    1. affected with nausea; feeling inclined to vomit.
    “a rancid odour that made him nauseous”
    synonyms: sick, nauseated, queasy, bilious, chunderoneous, sick to the stomach etc etc etc

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  July 19, 2017

      Where is that from ?

      • Gezza

         /  July 19, 2017

        Google – a dictionary. Don’t start with me, my girl! 😡 A pretty face ain’t gonna save ya!

        • Gezza

           /  July 19, 2017

          Ok, I made up chunderoneous, but it should be a word❗️

          • Gezza

             /  July 19, 2017

            No, soz. Scratch that. That would mean throwing up in error. Anyway, there’s already a word:
            chunderous
            ˈtʃʌnd(ə)rəs/
            adjective, AUSTRALIAN, informal

            1. affected with nausea; feeling inclined to vomit.
            “my chunderous neighbour was now restored to health”
            2. causing nausea.
            “I’d recognize that chunderous shirt anywhere”

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 20, 2017

          Google can be a very false friend.

          • Gezza

             /  July 20, 2017

            Yeah … well, ya think ya know someone … and then they shit on ya! 😡
            Why should google be any different? 😳

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 20, 2017

              You know the old, old saying about ‘rubbish in….’

            • Gezza

               /  July 20, 2017

              I thort that was about vegetarian diets? 😳