The Nation – Jacinda Ardern

 

Jacinda Ardern was interviewed on The Nation this morning. I only caught bits and pieces because I was boiling water on the BBQ as the power came back on.

My main impression was effusive evasion.

@TheNationNZ

says Labour is presenting a stark choice to voters and cancelling tax cuts is bold

“We believe in full employment. That’s bold”.

But she said Labour’s target was dropping unemployment from 5% to 4% but she couldn’t say how many jobs that was.

Says borrowing for Kiwibuild and to restart contributions to the Super Fund is “justifiable debt”

“My relative position doesn’t matter to me” says all that matters is being in Govt”.

She says she’d like to be the Minister for Children.

Evasive on her lack of leadership ambitions and lack of caring who becomes deputy Prime Minister is Labour lead the next government.

Asked if she would step up if Labour’s vote drops and Andrew Little doesn’t make it back into Parliament she was very evasive. She said their aim was to change the government and there was “no plan B”.

Any party going into this election with any thoughts of being a part of the next government has to be considering a wide range of possibilities. ‘No plan B’ is the equivalent of no credible planning.

30 Comments

  1. @TheNationNZ Jacinta “all teeth & no trousers” has no long term ambition “just want to be in government” – not inspiring or vote earning

  2. A fascinating thing about the panel discussion on the Ardern interview – they virtually ignored Ardern and spoke most about how the Greens had taken over the Narrative this week and Labour had a problem distinguishing themselves between the Greens and National.

    • PDB

       /  July 22, 2017

      Labour have become irrelevant, they virtually have no talent within their current lineup and leadership is lacking as shown by Ardern.

      The Greens are trying desperately to steal Labour’s support base as the ship sinks whilst at the same time making themselves more unlikable to the other 85% of the population. They are now essentially the Mana party with some green tinges.

      Winston looks more like a man who has only one real option post-election as who to go with. TOP’s half-baked ideas may get some more support from soft Green support but not enough to get over 5%.

      Surely next term some new parties need to be created;

      *A REAL green party focused totally on environmental concerns and willing to work with whoever is in power to further those aims.
      *A new centralist party to take over where NZL First (which will be but a memory once Winston moves on) and the centre-left can call their own.

      • sorethumb

         /  July 22, 2017

        TOP’s half-baked ideas
        ………..
        The proof of the pudding is in the eating but I wouldn’t call TOPS half baked. In fact TOPS stands out for not being half- baked.
        National’s policies are market forces (globalism) + use the media (Hoskings/Paul Spoonley) + I’m alright Jack. Strong economy – low paid workforce.

        • PDB

           /  July 22, 2017

          Half-baked ideas half implemented if they have their way…….

    • sorethumb

       /  July 22, 2017

      The Greens are having trouble relating to anyone other than white middle-class progressives. It seems. PI’s are PO’ed with Chloe getting on the escalator while they go up the stairs and Asian’s don’t vote for them – “baizou” and bonk over the head by Met’s Pets.

      • Gezza

         /  July 22, 2017

        “baizou” and bonk over the head by Met’s Pets.

        You were doing sort of ok until that bit, when the trail disappeared into dense underbrush & this hiker got lost

  3. sorethumb

     /  July 22, 2017

    Back in the day the left-wing professor taught The Making of The English Working Class about a development of class consciousness and class action (peasant’s revolt onwards) . Later came a post-modernist revival. The working class were chased into the darkness and cloistered academics took over (doughnut dunkers). Labour can’t get it’s working class back.
    http://www.counterfire.org/theory/129-marxist-history/4555-e-p-thompson-and-the-making-of-the-english-working-class

    • sorethumb

       /  July 22, 2017

      Working class Tommy Robinson
      Labour: Jo Cox

  4. Zedd

     /  July 22, 2017

    It would been a better interview, IF Ms Owen (Natz leaning ?) actually let Jacinda answer the questions rather than talk over her, at every point.

    Ms Owen’s interview with Ms Collins.. was more about letting her speak & less cut-ins

    • PDB

       /  July 22, 2017

      Always someone else’s fault………

    • Gezza

       /  July 22, 2017

      It would been a better interview, IF Ms Owen (Natz leaning ?) actually let Jacinda answer the questions rather than talk over her, at every point.

      1. About as Natz-leaning as Winston Peters.
      2. Letting Jacinda answer questions rather than talking over her would be totally unfairly discriminating in her favour. She interrupts and talks over every guest – an equal opportunity rude person.
      3. Haven’t seen it yet, but if Collins got interrupted less – it’ll likely simply be because she scares the crap out of Lisa & she doesn’t want to take the risk of getting verbally scragged on nationwide tv.

      Thank you. That is all.
      1639 hours

  5. sorethumb

     /  July 22, 2017

    “Lot’s of New Zealanders would find that strange” (Trump having business interests while POTUS). Kim Hill to US ambassador. Interviewing at break-neck speed to try to trip him up?

    • chrism56

       /  July 22, 2017

      Stop being a troll. sore thumb. and put your comments in the appropriate thread

      • sorethumb

         /  July 22, 2017

        That should have been under media watch

    • PDB

       /  July 22, 2017

      I mentioned it the other day – [I’ve mentioned it often enough, don’t attack commenters, address comments. PG]

  6. Weak as dish water. Who in the Labour lineup would you want in the trenches with you or giving the “over the top” orders?

    Cannot think of a one

    • PDB

       /  July 22, 2017

      Can’t think of anybody leading the charge from Labour, I can only think of a few that would bring up the rear.

  7. Chuck Bird

     /  July 22, 2017

    I wonder if she or any in Labour would borrow against their house to buy share particularly in a bull market at record highs.

  8. PDB

     /  July 22, 2017

  9. Alan Wilkinson

     /  July 22, 2017

    Very Freudian. Jacinda would like to be the Minister for Children. Labour would like to treat us like children.

    • Gezza

       /  July 22, 2017

      No getting away from it, I’m afraid. When the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party enters the room, the studio, or yhe conversation – it feels like somebody just left. ☹️

      • PDB

         /  July 22, 2017

        It’s like she isn’t even part of the Labour party so uninformed she is of their policies.

        • Gezza

           /  July 22, 2017

          There’s nothing worthwhile there. I don’t mean to sound nasty, it’s an honest opinion. There’s basically just a vacuum, with a body wrapped around it. If she’s got any potential – and god knows Labour needs people with some – I haven’t seen it. She’s a dead end, & they’ve made her the freaking deputy leader!

  10. Gezza

     /  July 22, 2017

    Labour might start to turn their fortunes around when they get a Leader who’s clued up enuf to realise that inventing reasons to crticise & oppose virtually everything the government does & think that’s the only way to get enuf MPs elected to become the alternative government – i.e. the Party with most votes & Ministers in a coalition – is nuts. There’s another way altogether to get there. They’re not there becoz they are simply too bloody dumb. Nobody wants a dumb government.

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