Northland shootings

The killing of two women and injuring of a man in Northland looks like a tragic and sad mix of mental illness and firearms.

It was known that the murderer was a frequent user of firearms.

It seems to have been known that he suffered from mental illness and depression, and he had a record of violence.

He didn’t have a firearms license but had somehow acquired a lot of weapons.

RNZ:  Gunman had multiple weapons – reports

Police are refusing to discuss how a convicted criminal who shot two women was able to collect firearms without a licence.

Quinn Patterson killed property manager Wendy Campbell, 60, and her 37-year-old daughter Natanya on Wednesday morning when they visited his home with a contractor to install smoke alarms. The contractor was also shot, but managed to escape and raise the alarm.

There are reports that Patterson, aged in his 50s, had multiple guns and other weapons, including grenades and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

Police have confirmed he did not have a firearms licence.

He served 18 months in prison for stabbing a police officer multiple times with a 33cm hunting knife in Hamilton in 1983.

Patterson’s only sister, Gloria, says her brother’s mental and physical health deteriorated rapidly this year and she had urged him to seek help.

NZ Herald: Northland shooting: A portrait of killer Quinn Patterson

Friend Leah Cameron said Quinn’s father brought his children up with a “Doomsday” mentality.

“He was fatalistic about the world, that it was not a good place. He could have been classed as being a bit of a fanatic”.

He made his children dig graves with him and he and his wife apparently wrote a book about UFOs.

Patterson liked guns despite friends saying he did not have a licence and was not a hunter. Neighbours would often hear him shooting in his backyard.

“He just shot in his back lawn by the sounds of it, you could hear it from here, you could hear it from everywhere,” Walters said.

“They were big guns. we’re talking automatics, semi-automatics, big calibres. They sounded like cannons, you could hear them going off with, like, 16 rounds.

“He was just sort of a law unto his own.”

He became paranoid and started to accumulate several weapons. A friend told Newshub he had grenades, shotguns, rifles and hand guns. He had “barricaded” himself in the property with bars on the windows.

He was becoming more and more depressed and paranoid, friends said.

He had taken several types of medication over the years, including sleeping tablets and had tried natural medication, vitamins and exercise in an attempt to get better.

There are some obvious questions that need to be asked about all this.

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30 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  July 28, 2017

    ”Police are refusing to discuss how a convicted criminal who shot two women was able to collect firearms without a licence.”

    I remember nearly twenty years ago Ian Wishart saying there are Bazookas and machine guns for sale in New Zealand. People had a great laugh over that- ;”Wishart and his conspiracies..lol .”

    I wasn’t laughing because I knew it was true. If I had a spare $5000, and I knew the right people, I could have a shiny new Glock ( 17 mag) by sunrise the same day.

    The question that should be asked is where did this chap get his money ( drugs)?. Given Northland is a depressed area, and this chap seemed to be a loner, who was his point of contact in the community.

    This chap knew someone who was connected to a network. Either that or a kind Samaritan gave him the guns.

    • Gezza

       /  July 28, 2017

      Odds on that’ll it’ll be the gangs. I detest the gangs. They bring opprobrium by association on the heads of all the thousands of decent law-abiding, proud Maori & I wish they would utterly reject them. It’s too confusing for their tamariki & many pakeha to separate perverted gang culture from all that is good about 21st century true Maori culture.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  July 28, 2017

        Of course the police are not stupid enough to tell the world how to amass guns in this way; what do you take them for ?

        Next you’ll be criticising them for not telling everyone where to buy drugs.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 28, 2017

          If you had a spare $5000 and if you knew the right people….the only difficulty would be knowing the right people.

          Anyone could say that. If I had the money and knew the right people, I could have a Picasso on the wall.

    • Corky

       /  July 28, 2017

      Why? The bottom line is police are paid to die in the line of duty to protect the public. If I had my way the police pay scale would be reversed with front line officers being paid what police hierarchy currently receive, and the police hierarchy receiving a constables remuneration.

      • Gezza

         /  July 28, 2017

        I like that about the pay. Only the police aren’t paid to die in the line of duty. They have a duty of care to protect the public & but also a right & duty – to family, their colleagues, and other members of the public in future – to protect themselves.

        Some take that public protection concern very seriously to heart, put all else beneath it in priority, & sadly die in the process of doing that. I can never thank or respect them, or feel for their loved ones, enuf.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  July 28, 2017

          Only a fool would join the police if it carried the obligation to die in the line of duty-what about all the ones who don’t ? Would they be sacked for dereliction of duty ?

          Who on earth would accept promotion if it meant a large pay-cut ? Nobody, or hardly anyone. More work-more responsibility-more accountability-but to make up for all this, less money. That does sound inviting.

          • Gezza

             /  July 28, 2017

            If this is a reply to Corky, could you reply off the reply button for his comment? It saves me having to work out who you’re having a go at & whether I need to respond.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 28, 2017

              That doesn’t always work-it usually doesn’t.

            • Gezza

               /  July 28, 2017

              What? Replying to Corks? If you have a go at him, it usually works – if you want some kind of reaction & he’s up for a scrap.

              If you click on the date up by the username, the reply button will appear, and clicking on that will make the repky text box appear at the first place under any sub-threads that have started. If it doesn’t (sometimes a bit of patience is needed) refreshing the page should fix the problem.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 28, 2017

              I have just done both of those….let’s see if it…

            • Gezza

               /  July 28, 2017

              U hav 2 scrol dpwn 2 c the reply text box after u do it, Kitty.
              Same, after refreshing, if it hasn’t worked & u r trying agen.

            • Gezza

               /  July 28, 2017

              * dpwn = down, Kitty. Sorry about that.

        • Conspiratoor

           /  July 28, 2017

          Would be interested in a couple of examples of cops who died in the line of duty who you don’t respect G? You might find in reality events unfold so fast they dont have time to weigh up all these various rights and duties of which you speak

          • Gezza

             /  July 28, 2017

            WTF❓What in God’s name have I said that makes you (and hopefully nobody else) think I would EVER disrespect a police officer who died in the line of duty?

            • Gezza

               /  July 28, 2017

              Just so that I can make myself ABSOLUTELY clear, I am saying your daughter – for whom I have the UTMOST RESPECT I do not regard as being PAID TO DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY!

            • Conspiratoor

               /  July 28, 2017

              Apologies G, i missed the last word ‘enuf. Changed the meaning totally. By the way cops accept the risks when they sign up. They are trained, and expected, to go towards danger …when you and I would be beating the drums of retreat. While not all heed the call, most do

            • Gezza

               /  July 28, 2017

              I know that. But they must never be reckless with their own lives.
              Can I ask, would you do it?

            • Conspiratoor

               /  July 28, 2017

              Not sure where this reckless theme is coming from G. Unlike some countries our cops undergo months of rigorous training. A reckless streak would be soon identified and purged. The inner coward would prevent me pursuing this career

            • Gezza

               /  July 28, 2017

              Some idiotic people often complain, in essence “why didn’t they just go in there guns blazing – problem solved”.
              (subtitle 1: cowardly cops, beats chest – “oi would’ve”)
              (subtitle 2: “so what if they get killed, fuk it if they’ve got family, they’re fkn paid to get killed)
              (subtitle 3: they’d never do it themselves)

  2. Brown

     /  July 28, 2017

    I had to smile at the mate waffling on about all the weapons and the guy being dangerous blah blah blah… yet doing nothing like telling the police. Some people just can’t resist their moment of fame in front of the camera no matter how stupid or culpable they look in doing so.

    • He’s culpable

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  July 28, 2017

        Do we know that he DIDN’T tell the police ?

        • Brown

           /  July 28, 2017

          A fair point but I don’t think he did because he told us everything that he’s ever done and didn’t mention it. He would have been desperate to be the good guy if possible and informing the police would have been the best way to get that credit and an invitation to Woman’s Day.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  July 28, 2017

            I can’t see Woman’s Day being interested; he’s too old, too ugly and he’s told the story already. It’ll be old news by the next issue, anyway. The rumours of the Kim/Kanye divorce or the new Shortland St cast member are far more interesting to WD readers, if the covers I see at the checkout are typical of what the stories are

            • Brown

               /  July 28, 2017

              Allegory alluding to view of self importance being inversely proportional to actual importance.