Police recently visited Whangarei killer

In a new development in the Whangarei shooting, in which two female property inspectors were shot dead and a maintenance man injured, the police have revealed that they visited the property last month.

RNZ:  Whangarei shooting: Police recently visited killer

Quinn Patterson killed property manager Wendy Campbell, 60, and her 37-year-old daughter Natanya on Wednesday morning when they visited his home with a contractor to install smoke alarms. The contractor was also shot, but managed to escape and raise the alarm.

Northland District Commander Superintendent Russell Le Prou said police investigated a structure being built there last month, and were told it was to be used for target practice.

Police decided it was a tenancy matter, rather than one for them.

Police said the visit to the property formed part of the ongoing investigation into Patterson’s background.

There have been reports that Patterson, aged in his 50s, had multiple guns and other weapons, including grenades and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

People using firearms in rural areas is common. There can be many legitimate and innocent reasons for using them.

I wouldn’t mind if police asked to see my firearms license just as a check.

Perhaps if there are any checks on rural properties it should include a check of whether firearms are present and whether there are firearms licenses.

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  1. Pickled Possum

     /  July 29, 2017

    This guy was set to go off guns blazing.
    How does a man with fragile mentals get to own and play with guns?
    How did the police fail in their duty of care for the community this killer lived in.
    Why are So many people silent when it comes to talking about
    Mental health in our communities?
    FTW

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    • Gezza

       /  July 29, 2017

      You have to experience Mental Illness yoursel or with your loved ones to understand it. If you don’t understand it, you talk in saintly manner about wot needs to be done, in the abstract, but then forget it, because you have no actual reason to care.

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      • Brown

         /  July 29, 2017

        We don’t know enough to treat this man as having a mental health condition. Maybe he was simply bad – as opposed to mad or sad. Clearly a modicum of common sense would have had police connecting shooting with the question of a gun licence. I guess his car was registered and he hadn’t been caught speeding so all was perceived to be OK.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 29, 2017

          That’s true Brown but for someone to be that bad, that murderous, that apparently lacking in empathy requires either possession by the devil – which doesn’t happen – a severe personality disorder, like psycopathy, or extreme narcissism, or a mental illness or affliction of some kind, even if temporary & drug induced – like perhaps paranoid schizophrenia, or E or whatever – or some other mental condition that causes them to feel or think they are threatened or entitled enough to kill someone else despite all the normal brakes put there by both nature & nurture, and society & the law. It’s not normal.

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      • Pickled Possum

         /  July 29, 2017

        Hmmm So how? did this man get all of these different calibre guns … shoot up his rented back yard … give his comunity and close associates some unsafe vibes … with the police doing home visits to keep an ‘eye’ on him, lmso.
        How could this man not be monitored and put a watch list. (Bit like what they did to the Urewera fellad
        The Ads say if you or any one you know of is having mental health issues contact your local doctor, mental heath worker or the police … yea Right .try it you will surprise at the lack of help and interest.

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        • Gezza

           /  July 30, 2017

          Your point’s well made, Possum. I don’t know the answer. The system is a puzzle. It could be under-resourcing of the Police, just not enuf of them to monitor him. It could be they feared the Justice System & SJW’s would make things difficult if they moved in on him. There aren’t enuf police to constantly identify, monitor & prevent aggressive people (eg gang members) from behaving threateningly until they actually kill or fire a firearm in a dangerous situation like a brawl or a funeral. The Justice System & Police Complaints System can be hard on the fuzz.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  July 30, 2017

            The issue was one of an illegal structure which could be anything-this would be a tenancy issue, just as a garage with no permit would be,.

            ‘Target practice’ could be with an airgun.The guns he had were obtained by fraud. How could the police know that he had them ? If they had known that ‘John Brown, Jim Smith and Joe Jones’ were names used by someone in this way, they couldn’t possibly know that these were him. He’d lie if he was asked, and his friend said that the guns would be well hidden where nobody would ever find them.

            The police would have a much easier job if they had a crystal ball, but as they haven’t, they can only go by what HAS happened.

            I was advised when I was threatened by the loony (psycho) neighbour*-a threat which we thought unlikely to be carried out, but which was still very unnerving-to call the police and ask that it be made into a file (or something like that) so that if anything did happen, it would be there that previous threats had been been made. This advice was followed.

            *she was going to burn the house down.

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            • Gezza

               /  July 30, 2017

              Unnerving for you, Kitty. Best to do what you did & to be wary. An innocent passer-by was stabbed to death on Lambton Quay not too long after I started work in Welly. The murderer, insane, had been looking crazy & muttering for some time according to witnesses, If I recall correctly, and then suddenly just pulled out a knife and killed someone. It prompted a lot of debate about the new Care In The Community approach.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  July 30, 2017

              I was working in Lambton Quay in my last year at Vic-in a shop that sold various ‘decor’ things, among them some sort of South American statues. A nutter came in, talking very strangely (or his mutterings sounded strange) and seemed to be worshipping these as he bowed and put his head down at their feet. He went around the shop doing this-I called the police as discreetly as I could, but I suspect that the nutter (druggy ?) wouldn’t have noticed if I’d used a megaphone.

              I was once followed in England and found it very frightening, as there was hardly anyone around . It must have been a Bank Holiday ! Everywhere I went, the stalker followed, even when I doubled back and did things to make sure that it wasn’t just someone who happened to be going the same way. I went into Tesco’s & hung around…he was there when I came out. In the end, I sat on a wall and pretended to be reading, and after what seemed like years the stalker gave up. I have seldom been so afraid ! No cellphone, then, so no way to call the boys in blue.

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