Ardern promises “relentless positivity”

One promising aspect of Jacinda Ardern’s debut as Labour leader is her promise of “relentless positivity”.

Andrew Little, Labour MPs and Labour activists have all tended far too much towards negativity, barking at passing cars, moaning about the Government, attacking anyone who questions or criticises them.

So it will be refreshing if Ardern is relentlessly positive

And that will contribute to a better campaign. If Ardern and Labour are positive it will make it more difficult to attack them, and negative campaigning will contrast – take note Winston.

Moaners might get some protest votes but in general I don’;t think voters are attracted by relentless whinging.

1 News: Jacinda Ardern promises ‘relentless positivity’ as Labour leader in upcoming campaign

Jacinda Ardern says she’s just taken on the worst job in politics but she’ll bring “relentless positivity” to the party and next month’s election campaign.

“I will use the next 72 hours… to reflect and take stock of the campaign plan. We will be positive, organised and ready.”

We could do with a lot more positivity in politics, and if Ardern leads the way on this then good on her.

She will need substance alongside a positive message. If she nails that then we could be in for a better campaign, and that also rub off on the next government.

I am strongly in favour of anything and anyone that promotes more positive politics.

56 Comments

  1. MaureenW

     /  August 2, 2017

    Stupid slogan from a party that has engaged in years of attack politics without landing any blows. Let’s see what a slogan overloaded with too many syllables actually means?
    Sounds hastily thought up, limp and will mean little to the voters. The slogan is about the Labour Party, not the election nor better times for New Zealanders.

    • I’m sure her speech yesterday was hastily thought up, she had very little time to do it.

      But I think there’s enough positives in her debut day as leader to hope that she will bring about positive change for Labour, for the campaign and potentially for the country.

      It will be refreshing to see someone rise above all the political whinging.

      • MaureenW

         /  August 2, 2017

        What will she rise above it with Pete? Policies? If they had any saleable policies, they wouldn’t have dumped Little who was never selected leader because of his charisma. I think they’ll need more than a toothy grin to make any headway.
        The newspapers are all Jacinta, Jacinta, not policies New Zealanders are going to vote for.
        To be crude, Labour is resorting to lipstick on a pig, trying to gloss over their abysmal ratings and performance.

      • PDB

         /  August 2, 2017

        PG: “I’m sure her speech yesterday was hastily thought up”

        You haven’t seen anything yet! If she does suddenly come out with some brand new policies this week then she is really making stuff up on the fly considering serious policy takes months – if not years – to create, study, tinker with, test and cost.

        • Blazer

           /  August 2, 2017

          Dead right..after nearly 9 years. ..National still haven’t worked any. ..out.

  2. Corky

     /  August 2, 2017

    Someone insinuated yesterday that I shouldn’t get my knickers in a twist regarding Cindy.
    I can’t remember who. Anyway, Kelvin Davis this morning said they have received thousands of calls since Cindy became leader and have been pledged over one hundred grand. At one stage they were receiving over $ $700 a minute. That will continue today.

    Davis calls this the ” Jacinda Effect” If that slogan becomes a MSM slogan National will in real trouble.

    The good news is Mikey Hosking is going to work. This morning he showed up the hypocrisy of Cindy’s utterances about wanting to be leader. He provided a timeline of deceitful utterances. Good work, Mikey.

    I said this is now an election about voter IQ. And going` by Kelvins korero there are many voters to the left of the bell curve( intellectual wise, not political)

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 2, 2017

      Well yes, as I pointed out in another thread they were still going to vote for Andy. Now they have a shiny new face to wave.

    • Gezza

       /  August 2, 2017

      Can ya get soubd clips of ZB? What time was this?

      • Gezza

         /  August 2, 2017

        Drat. * sound clips.

      • Corky

         /  August 2, 2017

        Try the 7am-7.30am time slot. It was just after the 7 news…I think. Lurchy was listening. Maybe he knows.

    • Blazer

       /  August 2, 2017

      Hoskings rant is…irrelevant. .as you. .know.

  3. sorethumb

     /  August 2, 2017

    “I want NZ to be even better than it is”
    “I come from Morrinsville so I know about all the problems people are having”
    Guyon Espineer “Do you believe in a market economy?”
    JA Refused to say yes just point out that some things aren’t working.

    “Labour insider” Stephanie Rogers (Standardista) is blowing smoke about appealing to the best side of New Zealanders. On that score she was opposed to Labour revealing the fact that Chinese appeared to be buying Auckland houses disproportionately. Seems she is suffering from Ostrich Parasitic Syndrome.

    She also said the media loved Jacinda “but now they will have to be balanced – so that may not last”
    Kelvin Davis said all Maori were related. Frank Salter says any two co-ethnics on whatever continent are as related genetically as Grandparent and Grandchild.

    • Corky

       /  August 2, 2017

      ”Soldiers of reason.” Love it. Mikey needs to use that.

  4. sorethumb

     /  August 2, 2017

    I think JA talked about free tertiary education. Whatever if conservatives are honest they can’t leave humanities alone. We are seeing Gramsci’s plan unfolding.

  5. Tipene

     /  August 2, 2017

    If her anxiety level “tells” were any higher at that at first press conference, Jacinda would have spontaneously combusted.

    She’ll melt faster than Olaf in “Frozen” when he got too close to the fire.

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  August 2, 2017

    Age 37 no children wanting children. That puts a serious timelimit on relentless positivity.

    • MaureenW

       /  August 2, 2017

      Struggling to comprehend what relentless positivity means 7 weeks out from an election with no saleable policies.
      I recall returning to NZ in 1999 when Helen Clark bribed beneficiaries with an extra $20 per week and romped in, so I guess anything is possible.

      • Corky

         /  August 2, 2017

        Cindy’s on a roll, with a Maori by her side. It doesn’t get anymore beautiful then that.
        All PC bases are covered- even the aesthetic bases. When Billy and Winnie get up to debate, potential voters will look at their faces dropping towards their chests and will hear nothing. When Cindy starts talking they will also hear nothing, but they will see the beautiful image of youth. She will be their girl.

        Cindy could go for the ultimate…announce she is pregnant.

        • Blazer

           /  August 2, 2017

          You’re on form today. .Corky.

          • Corky

             /  August 2, 2017

            I have to go away for a few days to recover from this upset. So I am trying my best. I always post weird stuff when I’m nervous. Gezza would say I post weird stuff all the time.

          • Gezza

             /  August 2, 2017

            No, yaw stuff is not weird Corks. Some of it is quite inspired even. It’s just it’s a bit simple. Wot u need to do tho is stop trying to work me out.

            Don’t try & work me out, Corks. You’ll go bloody insane mate!

            This is you: 🐞

            This is me: 🐝🦀🐂🐊🐀🐏🐩🐪🐓🐇🐫🐿
            👤🐗🐴🦄🐱🐨🐼🐛🐅🐳🐿🌵🐉🐶🐒🐣
            🐯🐸🐙🐰🐵🙈🙉🙊💂🏻🚶🏻🏃🏽👼🏼🗣🤖👽😈

            • Corky

               /  August 2, 2017

              That’s a lot you’s. The only other place I have seen that is on the Dark Web. You need to be careful down there…products and software can be ineffectual ripoffs. They not only want your money, they want your soul.

            • Gezza

               /  August 2, 2017

              No worries. I can spare one. They can have the squirrel.

            • Blazer

               /  August 2, 2017

              Even a blind squirrel trips over a nut. ..now and again. .so there is hope. .for. you.

            • Gezza

               /  August 2, 2017

              😳

            • Gezza

               /  August 2, 2017

              Wot ?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  August 2, 2017

          I think Bill’s got most of them covered in the pregnancy department, Corks.

          • Corky

             /  August 2, 2017

            Hell, you weren’t joking. The curse of living up to the Catholic ideal. Jim Bolger did better though.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 2, 2017

      Just a note to call b.s. on the Human Rights Commission claim it is illegal to ask a potential employee if they intend to bugger off on paid parental leave anytime soon.

      • And it was bullshit for Richardson to put what he did to Ardern. He has a bit of history of boofhead comments.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  August 2, 2017

          No it isn’t. She is contradicting what she previously said. It’s entirely proper to challenge her on that.

    • National will be very aware of the risks of strong personal attacks on a younger woman, particularly as the sexist debate fires up in the immediate aftermath of Ms Ardern’s election, with her being asked to reveal her plans about having children.

      She has been backed by MPs on all sides of the House, including the Prime Minister, who say those questions are completely inappropriate.

      http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/336359/presentable-and-competent-national-mps-on-ardern

  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  August 2, 2017

    Memo to Jacinda: Remember, as soon as you tell the truth, you’re out. Best, Andy.

    • duperez

       /  August 2, 2017

      And the corollary? Your chances of getting and staying in the Big Job are greatly enhanced by not telling the truth? 😊

  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  August 2, 2017

    Wondering if Jacinda got the idea of relentless positivity from Trumpy?

    • PDB

       /  August 2, 2017

      I think she is harking back to the highly successful Cunliffe years for Labour and ‘vote positive’.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  August 2, 2017

        Of course the Cunliffe Vote Positive campaign was as relentlessly negative a campaign as it could possibly be.
        Almost as two-faced as Cunliffe himself.

  9. Kitty Catkin

     /  August 2, 2017

    Relentless positivity sounds dreadful-someone like that is manic and lacking in perception.

    Positivity, yes, but relentless ? No, thank you. Think Pollyanna and how maddening SHE was.

    ‘Vote positive’ is awful-how illiterate. Has he never learned the difference between adjectives and adverbs ?

    • Blazer

       /  August 2, 2017

      Nitpicking =maddening.

    • Pete Kane

       /  August 2, 2017

      “Pollyanna” – exactly Ms Kitty, but nothing like as smart and considerably more aggravating.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 2, 2017

        Er…who is the less aggravating one in your opinion ?

        We have probably all known someone who is relentlessly cheerful and positive all the time and known how wearing this is. I have known fundies like this and was once stuck on a longggggggggg day out with a group of them (goes cold at awful memory)

        I’m H-A-P-P-Y
        I’m H-A-P-P-Y.
        I think I am, I know I am,
        I’m H-A-P-P-Y.

        (translation) ‘I’m M-A-N-I-C.’

        • Pete Kane

           /  August 2, 2017

          The original Ms Kitty, and I couldn’t stand her.

    • MaureenW

       /  August 2, 2017

      We agree on something Kitty

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  August 2, 2017

        Someone prancing around griniing from ear to ear and singing ‘zippedeedoodah, zippedeeay’ ….

  10. I think this is in relation to Mark Richardson’s stupidity:

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 2, 2017

      Why is it stupid? She is 37, says she wants kids and is standing for PM. Should a PM disappear on paid parental leave for six months?

      • Many MPs end up having kids. Why should Ardern be singled out to commit to working when others aren’t? Surely each time they stand a three year contract is implied. Both Key and Cunliffe didn’t last out to fill their current contract, but they weren’t asked to commit before they stood again in 2014.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  August 2, 2017

          They usually are asked if there is any doubt. They may or may not answer truthfully.

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