Turei puts herself in limbo

Apparently nudged by what looked effectively like an ultimatum from Jacinda Ardern this morning Metiria Turei has put herself into a sort of limbo that will be hard for her to recover from.

First Kelvin Davis made things clear Labour were distancing themselves.

Stuff: Metiria Turei’s electoral admission ‘not good’ – Labour

“The Greens have made their bed and now they have to lie in it,” said Labour Deputy leader Kelvin Davis.

“It’s turned to mushy peas for her, hasn’t it?” Davis said on The AM Show.

“It’s pretty ugly and I just think if you’re going to open up about yourself like that, then you’ve got to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth”.

Turei also got a clear message from Jacinda Ardern that Labour couldn’t support having her in a ministerial position.

Stuff:  Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei won’t resign

Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei says she won’t seek a ministerial position in a Labour-Greens government, but also won’t resign.

“Change is coming and I am proud of being part of leading that change in this election. But it is true that change always comes at a price,” Turei said.

Turei said she considered resigning but will not, as “this work is critical”.

Saying similar didn’t work out very well for Andrew Little.

“I will continue to work for as long as I can for a compassionate welfare system.

“The nature of politics means that when things go wrong you pay the price for that. The work is more important than a ministerial position.

“I need to take responsibility for my past.”

It’s not clear that she has anywhere near fully taken responsibility yet.

The electoral fraud she has admitted is very minor on it’s own but it leaves questions unanswered.

She said she made the gamble to tell NZ about her past because the party had tried everything to get a conversation going – research, policies, interviews. This was the only way to do it.

The Greens were struggling to be heard but had more choices than this.

And there are still unanswered questions.

“My baby’s father was a flatmate prior to us becoming pregnant but I didn’t live with him after that.”

She is sort of implying that as soon as she became pregnant they didn’t live together, unless she became pregnant after they stopped living together.

She got on well enough with the father to (as she claims) use his address to register herself to vote. And there have been claims that she rented a house owned by him, but would not name him to WINZ which would have ensured he paid child support.

There may be more yet to come out.

But for now Turei has parked herself in a sort of limbo, ruling herself out of asking to get a ministerial position but continuing to campaign on social issues.

I don’t think this has been thought through very well.

Turei said if the Greens went into Government with Labour after the election there will still be “plenty of work to do” managing the Green caucus and helping build welfare policy.

If Greens get into government and James Shaw and other Green MPs become ministers they will effectively be more senior than her.

It also may make campaigning awkward.

If Turei takes part in debates she will be vulnerable to criticism both for her unrepentant actions, and for her semi-leader position.

Despite the paper MoU it also chances substantially the relationship between Labour and the Greens now Ardern has told her she had no show of becoming a minister.

Ardern says she would not have been comfortable with Turei being a minister in her cabinet, and she was going to announce this today, if Turei hadn’t.

Effectively (from Twitter):

Ardern has asserted some authority and Turei complied.

Greens have to take a hit over this, and Ardern and Labour may well have taken another step towards recovering their major party mana.

Ardern has already ruled out Winston Peters being Prime Minister if Labour are involved in Government.

24 Comments

  1. PDB

     /  August 4, 2017

    PG: “Ardern has asserted some authority and Turei complied.”

    The Greens said they had no such discussion with Labour prior to their announcement? Someone is lying.

    I look forward to all future criminals of all walks of life also promising not to ever take up a ministerial position in the NZ govt and being let off scot-free……..

  2. MaureenW

     /  August 4, 2017

    I give the walking stink-bomb until next Wednesday – hopefully it’ll be a Dame Edna farewell with chrysanthemums and tears.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 4, 2017

      I’d love to see Barry Humphries playing Metiria. That would be a scream.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 4, 2017

      But she could be ditched by her party, if they had both ethical standards and a backbone.

      • MaureenW

         /  August 4, 2017

        What, two leaders .. no leaders. God imagine what the rest of them are like?

  3. Tipene

     /  August 4, 2017

    I give her until Wednesday next week to “reconsider” her non-resignation stance, and then resign “for the good of the party and its supporters”.

    • I think that’s quite possible, give or take a day or two.

    • Gezza

       /  August 4, 2017

      That’s what I think.

      • Gezza

         /  August 4, 2017

        I would describe 1ewes as having turned on her like pitbulls.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  August 4, 2017

      Oh, she doesn’t give a stuff about anyone but herself. It will be for her own noble causes and principles, not the party and certainly not its supporters.

      • Gezza

         /  August 4, 2017

        If Metz resigns – as I think she will end up doing – even as just an ordinary MP this would dog her forever in the House – & I’m not even sure she’ll be of any use as a hi-profile private advocate on behalf of any beneficiary organisation. She’s scored a monumental own-goal against herself AND her party imo. One wonders about the rumours someone engineered this, planning to go public with it themselves, prompting her to make a pre-emptive strike.

      • PDB

         /  August 4, 2017

        Her announcement is not even permanent if by some miracle the Greens are in govt for two terms……

        Stuff: “Turei says she would still love to be a minister at some point. Asked if this promise will just last for the next term she says that choice is up to the two parties.”

    • MaureenW

       /  August 4, 2017

      You and me both

  4. PDB

     /  August 4, 2017

    After all these years she hasn’t changed – simply put money in her bank account trumps doing the right thing.

    • MaureenW

       /  August 4, 2017

      I’m going to ask a “funny” question. Are fat people more entitled than thin people? It’s just that from my perspective, fat people see to think they are more entitled.

      • PDB

         /  August 4, 2017

        Fat people aren’t greedy – it’s all to do with faulty genes we are told…….

      • Gezza

         /  August 4, 2017

        Email Paula & Gerry. Report back?

  5. MaureenW

     /  August 4, 2017

    … seem

  6. sorethumb

     /  August 4, 2017

    I hope they slide to 4% in the polls (and I hope it heads to TOPs or NZFirst – the workers party.

    • MaureenW

       /  August 4, 2017

      I do too and they probably will – all well done to Meteria,

      • MaureenW

         /  August 4, 2017

        She is soooo helping the poor … Loser, self entitled trougher, helping herself.

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